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tony286 08-30-2008 06:48 PM

for the people that say obama has done nothing
 
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/person.xpd?id=400629
Almost 4 yrs
Barack Obama has sponsored 136 bills since Jan 4, 2005, of which 122 haven't made it out of committee and 2 were successfully enacted. Obama has co-sponsored 647 bills during the same time period.
Almost 15 yrs
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/person.xpd?id=300071
Statistics: John McCain has sponsored 537 bills since Jan 21, 1993, of which 340 haven't made it out of committee and 31 were successfully enacted. McCain has co-sponsored 1229 bills during the same time period.

Sly 08-30-2008 06:56 PM

Quality over quantity would be a better indicator...

I really don't feel like looking through 700 bills to see which one is trying to enact better laws, LOL.

tony286 08-30-2008 06:56 PM

Since Obama has been in the Senate 1st quarter of 2005 he voted 1282 and didnt vote 301
John Mccain in the same time frame voted 1197 and didnt vote 465.

tony286 08-30-2008 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 14688839)
Quality over quantity would be a better indicator...

I really don't feel like looking through 700 bills to see which one is trying to enact better laws, LOL.

it goes to do the nothing myth,he did do something actually at a much more productive rate then John Mccain

Robbie 08-30-2008 07:08 PM

Often times I wish every politician in Washington would go the fuck home and STOP doing shit. How many more damn laws do we need? People in this country are already pretty much stripped of most of the freedoms we started out with.

I can remember the "good old days" when the cops pulled you over and were NOT allowed to go through your wife's purse and look at all of her private stuff. Or search your car. These days? They not only can search you, but they can search INSIDE of you via breathalyzer tests. I know that there are "good reasons" for that. But as my grandmother used to say: "The road to Hell is paved with good intentions"

Phil 08-30-2008 07:09 PM

sponsored 136 bills since Jan 4, 2005, of which 122 haven't made it out of committee...


I wonder what were they..
I can write up shit as well.

tony286 08-30-2008 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CAMOKAT (Post 14688891)
sponsored 136 bills since Jan 4, 2005, of which 122 haven't made it out of committee...


I wonder what were they..
I can write up shit as well.

Go look you have the links. Have a party.

tony286 08-30-2008 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 14688884)
Often times I wish every politician in Washington would go the fuck home and STOP doing shit. How many more damn laws do we need? People in this country are already pretty much stripped of most of the freedoms we started out with.

I can remember the "good old days" when the cops pulled you over and were NOT allowed to go through your wife's purse and look at all of her private stuff. Or search your car. These days? They not only can search you, but they can search INSIDE of you via breathalyzer tests. I know that there are "good reasons" for that. But as my grandmother used to say: "The road to Hell is paved with good intentions"

I agree Arnold said that gov should be a part time job. Since its fulltime they make up shit to do. That's why Wash dc is where it is, it was a swamp so you couldn't be there in the summer time.

GetSCORECash 08-30-2008 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 14688884)
Often times I wish every politician in Washington would go the fuck home and STOP doing shit. How many more damn laws do we need? People in this country are already pretty much stripped of most of the freedoms we started out with.

Robbie, They want to regulate everything we do inorder to protect ourselves. Or atleast that is what tell us.

When you look at all the crap laws submitted, I'm glad so many never make it.

GetSCORECash 08-30-2008 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 14688918)
I agree Arnold said that gov should be a part time job. Since its fulltime they make up shit to do.

That is so true!

patrick6411 08-30-2008 07:31 PM

We are changing from a Democratic to a police state one bill at a time.

Robbie 08-30-2008 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCORE-Cash (Post 14688942)
Robbie, They want to regulate everything we do inorder to protect ourselves. Or atleast that is what tell us.

When you look at all the crap laws submitted, I'm glad so many never make it.

You're right Erasmo. They are controlling us. And Control=Power.

I have no idea how people ever made it through life without the govt. telling us what to do. Thank goodness for the govt. Let's see, they tell us what we can and can't eat. What we can and can't drink. What we can and can't smoke. They make us put our seat belts on in the car. They tell us what we can read. If you're in the airport you can't even make a JOKE about anything that might be related to "terror" (whatever the fuck that means). They tell us what we can write. What we can create in music, literature, and film.

And lately they have told us what we can THINK. And didn't someone post up a thread to an article about homeland security taking people's computers now at airports? Because they might have "dangerous" writing on them for terrorists? lol

So now if I even READ freakin' words on a screen...it's "dangerous"

Free? This don't sound like it to me. Give me a congressman, a senator, or a president that can do something that nobody else has ever done. REPEAL 90% of the bullshit laws that restrict my freedom as an adult. That would impress me.

DaddyHalbucks 08-30-2008 08:02 PM

It seems Obama's main objective is to promote himself.

Socks 08-30-2008 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 14689026)
You're right Erasmo. They are controlling us. And Control=Power.

I have no idea how people ever made it through life without the govt. telling us what to do. Thank goodness for the govt. Let's see, they tell us what we can and can't eat. What we can and can't drink. What we can and can't smoke. They make us put our seat belts on in the car. They tell us what we can read. If you're in the airport you can't even make a JOKE about anything that might be related to "terror" (whatever the fuck that means). They tell us what we can write. What we can create in music, literature, and film.

And lately they have told us what we can THINK. And didn't someone post up a thread to an article about homeland security taking people's computers now at airports? Because they might have "dangerous" writing on them for terrorists? lol

So now if I even READ freakin' words on a screen...it's "dangerous"

Free? This don't sound like it to me. Give me a congressman, a senator, or a president that can do something that nobody else has ever done. REPEAL 90% of the bullshit laws that restrict my freedom as an adult. That would impress me.

Tried that this time around with Ron Paul.

The average American just laughs at him because he "won't win" and he "speaks funny" etc. Popularity and vanity has even spread to who you can and can't vote for, in case your friends find out...

Snake Doctor 08-30-2008 08:10 PM

Hey tony I thought you were not going to start or get involved in these threads anymore?

I know you mean well but it won't be long before your blood pressure goes up bro.

Snake Doctor 08-30-2008 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 14689048)
It seems Obama's main objective is to promote himself.

As opposed to all of the other politicians in Washington whose main objective is to?.......

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Shamus McFamous 08-30-2008 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 14688829)
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/person.xpd?id=400629
Almost 4 yrs
Barack Obama has sponsored 136 bills since Jan 4, 2005, of which 122 haven't made it out of committee and 2 were successfully enacted. Obama has co-sponsored 647 bills during the same time period.
Almost 15 yrs
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/person.xpd?id=300071
Statistics: John McCain has sponsored 537 bills since Jan 21, 1993, of which 340 haven't made it out of committee and 31 were successfully enacted. McCain has co-sponsored 1229 bills during the same time period.

You're just saying that because you like blacks.

Snake Doctor 08-30-2008 08:41 PM

The problem with a thread like this, is that people don't base their vote on what they tell you they're basing their vote on.

They like to find alot of bad stuff to say about the candidate they're not voting for, but that's not the real reason they won't vote for him.

If experience was the big important thing people say it is, then that means they voted for Gore over Bush, because Gore had tons more experience than Governor Bush.

If military service was the big important thing people say it is, like they say now when listing things that are so great about McCain, and like they said when they bashed Clinton for being a draft dodger in 1992....then they would have voted for John Kerry in 2004, a war hero who volunteered for service in Vietnam and won 3 purple hearts, as opposed to Bush who used his family connections to get out of the draft and serve in the Nat'l Guard instead.....duty which he didn't even report for all the time.

I seriously doubt that the people who are screaming about experience, or military service, this year, voted for Gore in 2000 and Kerry in 2004.
They voted for Bush both times, and they're going to vote for McCain this time....and 4 years from now they're going to find reasons to hate the Democratic nominee, no matter who it is.

BTW, this is true for people on my side of the aisle too, who were willing overlook Clinton's extra-marital indiscretions because we liked his policies....but would gladly be righteously indignant if McCain were caught having an affair and would revel in the non-stop press coverage that would ensue.

This country is so polarized, I doubt there is anyone who is truly undecided. I think those who say they are undecided are just undecided about whether or not they're going to show up and vote...but if they do vote, they've already decided who it will be for.
I think this election, just like the past two, will turn on who gets their people to show up on election day.

tony286 08-30-2008 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snake Doctor (Post 14689075)
Hey tony I thought you were not going to start or get involved in these threads anymore?

I know you mean well but it won't be long before your blood pressure goes up bro.

Im mellow Yellow Dude no craziness.

tony286 08-30-2008 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snake Doctor (Post 14689176)
The problem with a thread like this, is that people don't base their vote on what they tell you they're basing their vote on.

They like to find alot of bad stuff to say about the candidate they're not voting for, but that's not the real reason they won't vote for him.

If experience was the big important thing people say it is, then that means they voted for Gore over Bush, because Gore had tons more experience than Governor Bush.

If military service was the big important thing people say it is, like they say now when listing things that are so great about McCain, and like they said when they bashed Clinton for being a draft dodger in 1992....then they would have voted for John Kerry in 2004, a war hero who volunteered for service in Vietnam and won 3 purple hearts, as opposed to Bush who used his family connections to get out of the draft and serve in the Nat'l Guard instead.....duty which he didn't even report for all the time.

I seriously doubt that the people who are screaming about experience, or military service, this year, voted for Gore in 2000 and Kerry in 2004.
They voted for Bush both times, and they're going to vote for McCain this time....and 4 years from now they're going to find reasons to hate the Democratic nominee, no matter who it is.

BTW, this is true for people on my side of the aisle too, who were willing overlook Clinton's extra-marital indiscretions because we liked his policies....but would gladly be righteously indignant if McCain were caught having an affair and would revel in the non-stop press coverage that would ensue.

This country is so polarized, I doubt there is anyone who is truly undecided. I think those who say they are undecided are just undecided about whether or not they're going to show up and vote...but if they do vote, they've already decided who it will be for.
I think this election, just like the past two, will turn on who gets their people to show up on election day.

Well said Len. Do you have to worry about Gustav or are you far enough away that it wont effect you?

Snake Doctor 08-30-2008 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 14689198)
Well said Len. Do you have to worry about Gustav?

Yes and no.

We're 60 miles or so inland, so we don't have to worry about storm surge or flooding or anything like that.....but we will catch alot of rain and wind etc.

I got a generator today and stocked up on some groceries....tomorrow I'll be cleaning up the yard and securing everything I can. Then we'll just have to ride it out.

With Katrina we didn't have any damage, just lost power and phone service for a long time. Hopefully this one won't be as bad.

I would leave, just because I won't be able to work anyways, and I could just go north and have a vacation....but I have 4 cats and 2 dogs and nobody to take care of them, so I gotta stick around for them.

tony286 08-30-2008 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snake Doctor (Post 14689218)
Yes and no.

We're 60 miles or so inland, so we don't have to worry about storm surge or flooding or anything like that.....but we will catch alot of rain and wind etc.

I got a generator today and stocked up on some groceries....tomorrow I'll be cleaning up the yard and securing everything I can. Then we'll just have to ride it out.

With Katrina we didn't have any damage, just lost power and phone service for a long time. Hopefully this one won't be as bad.

I would leave, just because I won't be able to work anyways, and I could just go north and have a vacation....but I have 4 cats and 2 dogs and nobody to take care of them, so I gotta stick around for them.

if you need a place my home is your home.

Robbie 08-30-2008 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 14689222)
if you need a place my home is your home.

Can I come over too? I'm nowhere near any hurricanes...but if there's gonna be a party over at tony404's house I want in.

Snake Doctor 08-30-2008 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 14689353)
Can I come over too? I'm nowhere near any hurricanes...but if there's gonna be a party over at tony404's house I want in.

I would say something about that too....but he hasn't told me to post that yet.

I, like you, can only post what tony404 tells me to.

tony286 08-30-2008 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 14689353)
Can I come over too? I'm nowhere near any hurricanes...but if there's gonna be a party over at tony404's house I want in.

you and claudia are always welcome in our home:)

Snake Doctor 08-30-2008 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 14689222)
if you need a place my home is your home.

We appreciate that. At this point though, it looks like my home is my home, it'll just be my home without electricity :(

Robbie 08-30-2008 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snake Doctor (Post 14689356)
I, like you, can only post what tony404 tells me to.

Yes, we are merely pawns on tony404's chess set. Puppets in the hands of the puppetmaster

stickyfingerz 08-30-2008 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 14689357)
you and claudia are always welcome in our home:)

That would be way too much boob in one place. lol

Robbie 08-30-2008 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 14689381)
That would be way too much boob in one place. lol

Ryan! Are you and Dana coming over to tony404's house too? Cool! Now we're starting to get a party going. I'm gonna ICQ xxxjay and pornodan and get them over too!

Woo-hoo! This hurricane shit is fun!

stickyfingerz 08-30-2008 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 14689388)
Ryan! Are you and Dana coming over to tony404's house too? Cool! Now we're starting to get a party going. I'm gonna ICQ xxxjay and pornodan and get them over too!

Woo-hoo! This hurricane shit is fun!

We are there. :thumbsup

Robbie 08-30-2008 10:07 PM

Aight....Let's get this shit in gear...We won't need strippers obviously. We have our womenz to take care of that. We'll need drugs...hmmmm, I better get jay and dan on the invite list as fast as possible. And I'll grab the beer and liquor. Done.

tony286 08-30-2008 11:13 PM

We can serve Hurricanes. lol

fatfoo 08-30-2008 11:17 PM

buuuuuuuuuuuuuump

Snake Doctor 08-30-2008 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 14689552)
We can serve Hurricanes. lol

I'm so glad that my natural disaster could bring you folks closer together. :1orglaugh

Phil 08-31-2008 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 14688912)
Go look you have the links. Have a party.

first one off the top

Quote:

"S.Con.Res. 25: A concurrent resolution condemning the recent violent actions of the Government of Zimbabwe against peaceful opposition party activists and members of civil society."
now, thats something to think about.

The opposition leader’s wife gets killed. Hundreds of white farmers evicted. Inflation is 3000% a yea.. Jesus christ. That’s a tough one. I cant belive he sponsored that bill.

Quote:

"S.Res. 600: A resolution commemorating the 44th anniversary of the deaths of civil rights workers Andrew Goodman, James Chaney, and Michael Schwerner in Philadelphia, Mississippi, while working in the name of American democracy to register voters and secure civil rights during the summer of 1964, which has become known as "Freedom Summer".
wow... heroic efforts


Quote:

S.Res. 268: A resolution designating July 12, 2007, as "National Summer Learning Day".
Fuck MLK and his legacy, this what civil rights are all about.

Quote:

S.Res. 133: A resolution celebrating the life of Bishop Gilbert Earl Patterson.
who the fuck is that???


How much more bullshit is there???

germ 08-31-2008 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 14689048)
It seems Obama's main objective is to promote himself.

He's campaigning. Isn't that kinda the point?

sumphatpimp 08-31-2008 02:01 AM

these political threads on gfy just make my pecker so damn stiff I can hardly stand it.

Shamus McFamous 08-31-2008 02:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sumphatpimp (Post 14689753)
these political threads on gfy just make my pecker so damn stiff I can hardly stand it.

I also have a large erection but that's because I am homie goatin' it.

tony286 08-31-2008 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CAMOKAT (Post 14689692)
first one off the top



now, thats something to think about.

The opposition leader?s wife gets killed. Hundreds of white farmers evicted. Inflation is 3000% a yea.. Jesus christ. That?s a tough one. I cant belive he sponsored that bill.



wow... heroic efforts




Fuck MLK and his legacy, this what civil rights are all about.



who the fuck is that???


How much more bullshit is there???

you mean like the most recent for johnny like
S. 722: Walnut Canyon Study Act of 2007

A bill to direct the Secretary of the Interior and the Secretary of Agriculture to jointly conduct a study of certain land adjacent to the Walnut Canyon National Monument in the State of Arizona.

or this one

S. 2172: Saffron Revolution Support Act of 2007

A bill to impose sanctions on officials of the State Peace and Development Council in Burma, to prohibit the importation of gems and hardwoods from Burma, to support democracy in Burma, and for other purposes.

i love this one

S. 1255: Indian Arts and Crafts Amendments Act of 2007

A bill to protect Indian arts and crafts through the improvement of applicable criminal proceedings, and for other purposes.


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