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Barack Obama`s 10 Point Plan to "Change" The Second Amendment

For the Brady Campaign, Violence Policy Center, Dianne Feinstein, Chuck Schumer, U.N. gun-ban extremist Rebecca Peters and her globalist billionaire sugar-daddy George Soros, for New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg and his horde of big-city politicians?in fact, for all those individuals and organizations who would harm or destroy our Second Amendment rights?Barack Obama?s mantra of ?change? means their agenda will be harnessed to the total power of an aggressive, activist and radical federal government.

?Change? means gun owners will be under siege like never before.

Especially for NRA members who fought through the never-ending threats of the Clinton-Gore administration, the understanding of ?change? must be the driving force for us to get other gun owners to the polls. This election is critically important. We cannot afford to have any friend of the Second Amendment sit it out, regardless of the reason.

We all know gun owners who are disillusioned with politics. Those influenced by talk of four years of ?progressives? in power coalescing a united conservative movement must be reminded that this November, we are not just electing a president, we are electing an entire government.

With Obama?s emphasis on grassroots organizing, his administration will be a government redesigned and realigned to stay in power. It will be a government converted into a political machine. And with a so-called ?progressive? majority in both houses of Congress, there will be little to stop that power shift.

When Obama talks about ?change,? the gun-banners at the Violence Policy Center and the Brady Campaign know exactly what change they want?inside power. And they?ll likely get it.

Michelle Obama, in a politically charged college campaign speech in California, defined her husband?s meaning of ?change?:

?Barack Obama ... is going to demand that you shed your cynicism. That you put down your division. That you come out of your isolation. That you move out of your comfort zones ... Barack will never allow you to go back to your lives as usual ...?.

As NRA members, this statement doesn?t bode well for our future. Our ?lives as usual? means the daily exercise of our freedom.

And what of ?cynicism?? It is the very basis of Americans? long history of questioning government power and its abuse. It is the basis of challenging dissembling politicians. Cynicism is the key to seeing through politicians like Obama and Hillary Clinton, who falsely wrap themselves in the Second Amendment while espousing dangerous programs for civil disarmament.

And ?division?? As NRA members, our ?division? from the likes of Obama means we stand together and fight every day against those who would destroy the bedrock principles that have made our country the freest in the world. Divisiveness is the basis of our democratic institutions. Division based on principle is a noble thing.

?Comfort zone?? What about the life, liberty and pursuit of happiness guaranteed by the Declaration of Independence? That is the real ?comfort zone? of all Americans. We are the only nation on earth built on the principle of ?pursuit of happiness.? That means we do not serve government; it serves us.

The ?change? Obama and his close allies?like George Soros? Moveon.org ?seek is a complete regime change driven by a radical political agenda. For the nation?s gun owners, ?change? will take the form of many steps back to the bad old days of the Clinton-Gore years or the Jimmy Carter years, when bureaucrats in a dozen agencies were relentless in their schemes to press a hostile presidential agenda against gun ownership.

For gun owners, ?change? could well mean an erosion of hard-fought reforms and hard-fought protections we have secured over the years. Those reforms represent battles won by gun owners led by NRA since the founding of the Institute for Legislative Action in 1975.

?Change? means removing the restrictions we secured against the Consumer Product Safety Commission from exercising a bureaucratic ban on firearms or ammunition based on phony ?consumer hazard? criteria. This is something the Brady Campaign and the Violence Policy Center have vainly sought for years.

... we are not just electing a president, we are electing an entire government

?Change? means ignoring the strictures imposed on federal gun-control enforcement by Congress, like preventing ?firearms trace data? from being delivered into the hands of big-city lawyers to fuel punitive lawsuits to strangle the lawful firearms industry. This is New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg?s dream, and it is the ?change? demanded by his gun-ban axis of urban politicians.

?Change? means an effort to erase all of the reforms of federal gun laws created when Congress enacted the Firearms Owners? Protection Act of 1986. That law ended a reign of terror by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms that, for gun owners and civil libertarians, was the shameful hallmark of the Jimmy Carter presidency.

?Change? means that federal lawyers from multiple agencies with unlimited taxpayer funding will find ?creative? ways to bring elements of the law-abiding firearm industry to court, circumventing the restrictions of the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Firearms Act. As a freshman U.S. senator from Illinois, Obama voted against that law, which was designed to end punitive lawsuits claiming firearm industry liability based on totally unrelated acts of armed, violent criminals.

For those who don?t remember, in the waning days of the Bill Clinton presidency, the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD), along with the U.S. Department of Justice, used the threat of scores of separate lawsuits in many federal venues by city housing authorities to extort a supposedly ?voluntary? gun-control agreement from firearm manufacturers. If Obama becomes president, you can bet the farm that bureaucrats will once again use these threats to obtain strictures that Congress would never enact.

In fact, among key advisors chosen by Obama to vet possible running mates is Eric Holder, who was Attorney General Janet Reno?s top deputy. Holder, as the Justice Department point man on all gun-control schemes, was among the top officials announcing the Clinton-Gore extortion agreement in 2000.


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Hmmmm I can see a lot of people on this board not being very happy bunnies...

that will never happen and Obama will never become president

how would you enforce this?

wouldnt it take.. a lot.. of...

guns?

it could never be enforced, would never pass, guns are here to stay.

im not giving up mine thats for damn sure

Obama is a huge fucking mistake in the first place.. not voting for him solves all problems, stop buying into the hype.

Fortunately, red state America won't vote for him.

pure propaganda. show me something that obama put out that says "banning firearms for home self defense"...

where i live has more women with concealed weapon permits than any other place in the state. and i believe america.

i live in a place where guns are allowed to be in your car as it is an extension of your home and i dont need a permit to ride around with a gun.

down south ridin rough in n'awleens

free missile for every American over the age of 6!!! vote for me!

Stuff like this really assumes people are that stupid. To read this and actually believe it, give me a break. No rational person would actually believe it.

This thread is useless without pics. Here are a few of mine. Anyone want to break in? lol

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You have a big dick..er gun.

It's true, i have both.

Don't fall for the fallacy that all people with guns need them to feel big.

I agree, some people have them for the wrong reasons.

People own knives for the wrong reasons.

Get married for the wrong reasons.

Use drugs for the wrong reasons.

and so on.........................

True, no doubt. I just hope you're falling for daddys propaganda post.

I would rather live in a world where every person owned a gun and yet no WMD's existed.

First off that is pure bullshit, and probably propaganda put out by the right wingers. Secondly, no one will ever just out right ban guns in the states.

"Gun Control" is definitely something Obama stands for. The word itself seems scary to most uneducated people. However even as a gun owner I accept and believe in gun control. The complete banning of guns? No. We do need, and already have in place gun laws which are GOOD. Example, the three day waiting period - is a gun control law. In my opinion, a good one. No one needs a gun immediately, no one.

So yes, I'm a gun owner. Yes, I will be voting for Obama.

No, I don't fall for shit.

Obama was never on my list of someone I would vote for.

It's the NRA's position, not mine... necessarily.

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I am right there with you :winkwink:

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The President alone does not have enough power to do anything even remotely close to that. Propaganda. But, every campaign is propaganda pro or con.

Should not believe what any politician promises they will do... it simply pandering, most of what they promise is something that they have very little control over. Vote based on history, not promises.

You ready to sell me that GP100 yet :winkwink:

I just picked up this Bersa .380 to carry for the summer - loving it so far.

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nah but i'll probably get one to keep by my bed when i buy my own house

might as well add a pic of the new AR15 while I'm at it

http://www.stupidcoeds.com/newar.jpg

"I'm most concerned about my people, I want to give them peace.
So I'll make sure they stay in line, with my army and police."

We can't go having a growing population of growingly desperate, disillusioned, and unsatisfied people running armed now can we? That's just asking for a revolution. Yes, taking their guns away seems like a rational idea. if the population agrees with this sort of thing, they truly are living in fear, and truly are willing to surrender all freedoms to further the power of their government over their own lives. The right to bear arms was written into the constitution because the founding fathers believed in freedom, and the right of the people to rise up and fight against the establishment should these freedoms be threatened by corrupt power. Exactly the corrupt power which is in charge of America at this time.

First the US Patriot Act, next the abolishment of 2nd amendment. Soon they'll be tatooing your children with barcodes, imprisoning you for thought crimes, and drafting you to die in the name of neverending manifest destiny. All to continue lining the pocketbooks of the upper crust. If anything you should be out buying fucking guns right now...

ive got the same stock on my ar

What is this toy? Looks like poor-man's Walther.

Fuck that. Not happening.

Nah, that was the first brand new handgun I ever bought. I've owned it 20+ years. It will get passed on in the family somewhere. :thumbsup


I had a Colt Govt. Model .380 at one time. I traded it for a Honda V4 Magna. Wish I had the .380 back. Was a sweet little piece. Would slide in your back jeans pocket perfect for conceal. Nice and thin.

Cheers,
BV

The NRA has a tremendous amount of power to influence elections.

Getting a mossberg 500 in three days!

Will never happen. As much as we dont want to see it... McCain in going to become president...

Guns are for retarded people.

I support 2A, but all they did was make up a bunch of shit that not only did Obama never say, but has no power to change. Dumb rednecks will eat this shit up though.