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SykkBoy 08-13-2008 02:43 PM

Sorry, but your porn isn't any holier than my porn...
 
Attention adult industry people: you produce smut

Maybe you don't pee on your models or maybe you don't choke them or make them cry, but you are still producers of smut.

I constantly see threads where people want their type of smut to be left alone by government types...but don't mind "bad" porn from being procescuted...and I'm not talking about CP, real rape, etc.

Get over yourselves...
is max hardcore degrading to women? probably
is fake snuff degrading? probably, but any more than fake "snuff' in a "mainstream" horror movie?
is an 18 year old girl taking her clothes off on camera for the first time and sucking off the guy behind the camera any less degrading?
what about the 18 year old girl who does a masturbation video? how degrading would it be for her family or schoolmates to see the pictures or videos?

Face it, if a gal gets into porn, she's tainted forever. It doesn't matter if it's choking on Max Hardcore's piss stream or finger fucking herself in a hotel room in front of a lone cameraman or pretending to be killed by a masked intruder.

Marcus Aurelius 08-13-2008 02:50 PM

You mean there are girls that get paid to be pissed on!? all the ones I piss on let me do it for free! :-)

Nice post by the way. Let he among us who is without sin cast the first stone.
(jesus h. christ you stay out of this)

RobAlbaugh 08-13-2008 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MDCQ (Post 14603088)
You mean there are girls that get paid to be pissed on!? all the ones I piss on let me do it for free! :-)

Nice post by the way. Let he among us who is without sin cast the first stone.
(jesus h. christ you stay out of this)

Even Jesus was a sinner. Try reading the lost book of the bible. He whored and drank with the best of them. Theres a reason the bible goes from 12 to 30 something and leaves out all the shit in between.

Marcus Aurelius 08-13-2008 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by RobAlbaugh (Post 14603178)
Even Jesus was a sinner. Try reading the lost book of the bible. He whored and drank with the best of them. Theres a reason the bible goes from 12 to 30 something and leaves out all the shit in between.


I was referring to the board member Jesus H. Christ.

tony286 08-13-2008 03:09 PM

If we were in the restaurant industry, if someone's kitchen was filthy or patrons got sick or the quality of the food was poor. We would not be able to comment because we are all in the restaurant business?

Ayla_SquareTurtle 08-13-2008 03:16 PM

I don't think any type of consensual, adult porn should be made illegal or that it's OK to prosecute one type of porn producer for obscenity but not another, but there IS a difference between a solo masturbation scene and a 10 man, triple penetration gang bang with watersports and brown showers. The trouble is that some people don't understand the difference between "I don't like it and won't watch it" and "Those mother fuckers belong in jail."

ADL Colin 08-13-2008 03:17 PM

here! here!

GigoloShawn 08-13-2008 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ADL Colin (Post 14603282)
here! here!

Where? Where?

tony286 08-13-2008 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Ayla_SquareTurtle (Post 14603277)
I don't think any type of consensual, adult porn should be made illegal or that it's OK to prosecute one type of porn producer for obscenity but not another, but there IS a difference between a solo masturbation scene and a 10 man, triple penetration gang bang with watersports and brown showers. The trouble is that some people don't understand the difference between "I don't like it and won't watch it" and "Those mother fuckers belong in jail."

I agree as long as everyone is consenting and knows whats going happen well before hand.

Big Red Machine 08-13-2008 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MDCQ (Post 14603189)
I was referring to the board member Jesus H. Christ.

Is there any other?...:1orglaugh

klaze 08-13-2008 03:25 PM

Smutt is smutt but I definitely rate it on a level of how Smutty it is.

I'd say a girl that has been shot for pissmops or outdoor florida bukakke is definitely more "tainted" than a girl that has just shot for met-art or sapphic erotica ...

I dunno wtf yer talking about but remember your opinion is not fact either.. everyone has their own idea of what is ok.. for some of us forcing a chick to swallow our piss doesn't matter if she agrees to it... it's NOT COOL.

I don't condone what Max Hardcore does on film.. I don't care who agreed to what...
But that's just MY opinion..

Some shit just shouldn't be done..

There's shit you just don't see done in "mainstream horror movies".. same shit goes for porn...

DirtyDanza 08-13-2008 03:34 PM

great post...

any pornographer that does not support all of freedom of speach is a pussy ass looser...


klaze the hookers sign up for shoots... wendys always hires.. your post is the most pussy post ive seen on gfy in my years of posting here... you don't deserve to be in the adult industry which I personally question if you really are... whores are whores.. the min they take their clothes off in front of a stranger for cash on camera they are tainted bottom line.. it makes no difference weather they shoot with me or go film some softcore shit they are tainted and branded as content...
this is an industry to cater to fetishes just like nike caters mainstream sports and Thor caters to dirt bikes.. how many people DIE each year from trying to launch bikes off jumps... how about the kids hanging themselvs from hooks like criss angel does? they broadcast that on TV none the less.. but it's all freedom.. to say something should not be done is pussy.. no one is killed or hurt in any filming.. TRUST ME... if 2 consenting adults consent to something WHY NOT? answer that...

if I got a stupid small town never met a city boy fast talker like myself what is so wrong about me smooth talking her ass into gargling my piss and choking on my cock? she agrees to it? why not? one good answer is all I need I am waiting 7 years since I started in the industry for a good answer...

CDSmith 08-13-2008 03:38 PM

Obviously, judging by some of the posts in the other thread on this I saw earlier, I'd say your post was badly needed, SB.

Nicely said.

Hopefully those who need to get it, get it.

SykkBoy 08-13-2008 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by klaze (Post 14603327)

I dunno wtf yer talking about but remember your opinion is not fact either.. everyone has their own idea of what is ok.. for some of us forcing a chick to swallow our piss doesn't matter if she agrees to it... it's NOT COOL.

totally agreed
my opinion is just that: an opinion
it doesn't make it any better or worse than anyone else's.

but, should MY opinion be what flies as the letter of law in this industry? is it that much more superior than yours that it should be taken as gospel? nope and neither should anyone else's...

tiger 08-13-2008 04:56 PM

Well said. You don't really support freedom of speach unless you support even those that you don't necessarily agree with.

After Shock Media 08-13-2008 05:15 PM

About 9.9 out of 10 posters here are not pornographers and just salesmen or work in the industry in another manner. I think that really often skews the whole topics very quickly. Then there is the select few who do think one type of consenting porn is acceptable while other types of consenting porn should not be.

I know personally I would rather not see most fat girls, gay sex (tranny acceptable), creampies, bukkake, cum swapping, ass to mouth, and many many more. However I am not a hypocrite so I do not object to any of them nor would I.

ladida 08-13-2008 05:35 PM

Mostly agreed, but if you think fake snuff is "ok" you lost your senses. There are some lines you must not cross, that is one of them. No, it is NOT okay to even pretend you are killing someone to satisfy someone's fetish. Some things can not be satisfied, deal with it, it's what separates us from animals, control.

If someone wants to eat piss and shit for money, i dont care really.

After Shock Media 08-13-2008 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ladida (Post 14603887)
Mostly agreed, but if you think fake snuff is "ok" you lost your senses. There are some lines you must not cross, that is one of them. No, it is NOT okay to even pretend you are killing someone to satisfy someone's fetish. Some things can not be satisfied, deal with it, it's what separates us from animals, control.

If someone wants to eat piss and shit for money, i dont care really.

OK why not fake snuff?

Hell how many Saw movies have their been so far, oh I think I am forgetting some other horror porn movies while I am at it. Shit what was the one with the kids in Eastern Europe?
Only difference would be that the effects would suck in the porn versions and oh yeah, so would the acting.

broke 08-13-2008 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by After Shock Media (Post 14603900)
OK why not fake snuff?

OK why not real snuff?


Consenting adults, whores, blah blah blah.

After Shock Media 08-13-2008 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by broke (Post 14603910)
OK why not real snuff?


Consenting adults, whores, blah blah blah.

Extreme jump there now isnt it.

Can not legally kill someone even if they say it is ok, so consent would not apply. As it stands assisted suicide is not even legal in the states. However fake killing is perfectly legal in every state.

broke 08-13-2008 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by After Shock Media (Post 14603938)
Extreme jump there now isnt it.

Not really - we're talking about where people draw 'lines' and I guess we just found your line.

Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media (Post 14603938)
Can not legally kill someone even if they say it is ok, so consent would not apply. As it stands assisted suicide is not even legal in the states. However fake killing is perfectly legal in every state.

Why should an adult not be allowed to consent to being killed? They are an adult after all and not allowing them to make that choice is stifling my artistry (and ability to make money).

Penny24Seven 08-13-2008 06:07 PM

maybe if the people you hang out with are closed minded. Who cares if someone from third grade saw your video. Who cares if the guy at the gas station gave you a look like he has seen you fucking on video. All that matters are the people that matter to you.
I tell the girls. Pretend like every person that matters to you just saw you fucking in a video. Would that change your life and is it worth it.
Some people call it smut,
yippie

Boobzooka 08-13-2008 06:15 PM

Explain why a girl is "tainted forever" by a camera? :disgust

DirtyDanza 08-13-2008 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ladida (Post 14603887)
Mostly agreed, but if you think fake snuff is "ok" you lost your senses. There are some lines you must not cross, that is one of them. No, it is NOT okay to even pretend you are killing someone to satisfy someone's fetish. Some things can not be satisfied, deal with it, it's what separates us from animals, control.

If someone wants to eat piss and shit for money, i dont care really.

read the script to saw just read the script.... but thats ok? someone had to agree with that shit for entertainment which is all porn is for entertainment

Iron Fist 08-13-2008 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DareRing (Post 14604017)
Explain why a girl is "tainted forever" by a camera? :disgust

Once it's on the internet, you will NEVER get it all off the internet ever again... :2 cents:

After Shock Media 08-13-2008 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by broke (Post 14603961)
Not really - we're talking about where people draw 'lines' and I guess we just found your line.



Why should an adult not be allowed to consent to being killed? They are an adult after all and not allowing them to make that choice is stifling my artistry (and ability to make money).

Did I say that I had an issue with suicide? No, you just made that assumption to try to prove your point. My lines are just set at what is legal in this day and age. That which may change at any point in time as well when and if laws change.

You however are attempting to compare apples and oranges. Fake snuff/murder is perfectly legal baring any obscenity issue. Currently Hollywood has been pumping out snuff movies left and right just minus showing hardcore intercourse. They have allowed sex and nudity as long as no penetration is shown and it is all simulated. They even went so far as to allow and heavily promote biblical snuff to the masses which pushed it beyond the realm of horror and fantasy.

Antonio 08-13-2008 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Ayla_SquareTurtle (Post 14603277)
I don't think any type of consensual, adult porn should be made illegal or that it's OK to prosecute one type of porn producer for obscenity but not another, but there IS a difference between a solo masturbation scene and a 10 man, triple penetration gang bang with watersports and brown showers. The trouble is that some people don't understand the difference between "I don't like it and won't watch it" and "Those mother fuckers belong in jail."


great post :thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

topnotch, standup guy 08-13-2008 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by broke (Post 14603910)
OK why not real snuff?

Consenting adults, whores, blah blah blah.

You're not too bright, are you?

Violetta 08-13-2008 11:22 PM

If every girl gets into porn, it would be completly normal! Bump for more nude girls


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