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Kard63 08-03-2008 07:34 AM

Do you pay for privacy on domains? I'm tired of it.
 
How do I setup a business name and a mail box so no one can track me down and it be legal? I'm tired of paying to hide. Please don't suggest I switch from godaddy. I don't fucking care. Answer the question I asked for once. Thanks.

baddog 08-03-2008 07:35 AM

Get a P.O. Box

IllTestYourGirls 08-03-2008 07:36 AM

Just go to your post office, pay a fee and you have a box. They will give you a form that will ask you what names you want to receive mail at the box. List your business name.

seeandsee 08-03-2008 07:41 AM

I don't pay but i know registrar where you can put anything in whois info, because you pay "manually" for domains.

baddog 08-03-2008 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by seeandsee (Post 14554313)
I don't pay but i know registrar where you can put anything in whois info, because you pay "manually" for domains.

You do realize that putting false whois info can result in your loss of the domain, right?

Bratt 08-03-2008 07:46 AM

I started out paying, then stopped, but now I am slowly getting my domain info hidden. I had a bad incident.... Someone got the info on my whois, then made an email address at gmail, then sighed up for programs and I started getting my accounts closed for fraud and after talking to the program managers and finding out what was going on, these programs were thinking it was me, these people used all my whois info and signed up as if they were me. I got the problem worked out with the programs i knew about but there could be more that these people signed up for. Hence, I am putting the security on my domains.

chemicaleyes 08-03-2008 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 14554272)
Get a P.O. Box

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clickhappy 08-03-2008 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kard63 (Post 14554246)
How do I setup a business name and a mail box so no one can track me down and it be legal? I'm tired of paying to hide. Please don't suggest I switch from godaddy. I don't fucking care. Answer the question I asked for once. Thanks.

what is that in your sig? Ive always wanted to know.

clickhappy 08-03-2008 08:14 AM

If you do a business name at your PO Box they charge more.
If you have 2 or 3 domains then its cheaper to do the private registration.
If you have more than its cheaper to register a business name with the post office

After Shock Media 08-03-2008 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clickhappy (Post 14554597)
what is that in your sig? Ive always wanted to know.

Cats ass by the looks of it.

pocketkangaroo 08-03-2008 08:16 AM

If there is a UPS store in the area, you can use that as well. I actually prefer that because they'll sign for all my packages and stuff (which the post office won't).

Kard63 08-03-2008 09:36 AM

Thanks for the answers guys. I need more than a PO box though. You can't falsify the info or you can lose your domain so I need a name too. How can I create a business and no one track me down? I currently just have everything in my name.

tical 08-03-2008 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kard63 (Post 14554858)
Thanks for the answers guys. I need more than a PO box though. You can't falsify the info or you can lose your domain so I need a name too. How can I create a business and no one track me down? I currently just have everything in my name.

setup an offshore corp
www.offshorexplorer.com

Kard63 08-03-2008 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tical (Post 14554865)
setup an offshore corp
www.offshorexplorer.com

Why offshore? LOL, I am willing to pay taxes, I just don't want the world discriminating against me.

BlackCrayon 08-03-2008 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kard63 (Post 14554858)
Thanks for the answers guys. I need more than a PO box though. You can't falsify the info or you can lose your domain so I need a name too. How can I create a business and no one track me down? I currently just have everything in my name.

Why are you so worried about people "tracking you down"?

IllTestYourGirls 08-03-2008 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kard63 (Post 14554858)
Thanks for the answers guys. I need more than a PO box though. You can't falsify the info or you can lose your domain so I need a name too. How can I create a business and no one track me down? I currently just have everything in my name.

how are you filing your taxes? Are you a sole proprietor DBA (doing business as) insert company name here. Call your city office and ask them for the paper work to register a business. Or better yet see your CPA/lawyer.

tical 08-03-2008 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Kard63 (Post 14554886)
Why offshore? LOL, I am willing to pay taxes, I just don't want the world discriminating against me.

you can still pay taxes, just claim the money & be legit about it

certain types of offshore corporations can provide you with the anonymity you're looking for... offshore corps aren't only for evading taxes :)

for example there are mailers that setup offshore corps to avoid us jurisdiction / laws (ie can-spam)... some claim the $ they bring in and have no problems... others launder the money & end up getting fucked

be smart about stuff, don't launder $

even the US has blackwater to take care of things that aren't necessarily "legal" for the US military to do... same shit (sorta hehe)

lazycash 08-03-2008 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by seeandsee (Post 14554313)
I don't pay but i know registrar where you can put anything in whois info, because you pay "manually" for domains.

Lol, wtf is manually? Doesn't matter who registers your domain for you, false whois info is grounds for losing your domain.

klaze 08-03-2008 10:37 AM

It's $10 ....

Sly 08-03-2008 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tical (Post 14554865)
setup an offshore corp
www.offshorexplorer.com

You could also just set up a regular United States corporation. Sure, they could do a little bit of research and find out who you are... but damn, if you have doing that much research, you may have other problems. :-)

seeandsee 08-03-2008 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 14554327)
You do realize that putting false whois info can result in your loss of the domain, right?

Yes i know, i just put this for example what can you do...

munki 08-03-2008 10:48 AM

Check up with your local city hall, and Small Business Administration for great resources on putting together a business.

THe basic (dont fucking flame me, the real basic steps) for California are...

City Business Permit... (City Hall)
State Tax ID & Resale Permit (State Tax Offices, Local Courthouse for me)
Fictitious Business Name (4 week ad in local newspaper, with accompanying paperwork)

After which you are all set to have accounts, credit, business locations, and anything else you want under company names.

The Duck 08-03-2008 10:49 AM

use namcheap whoisguard.-

minddust 08-03-2008 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klaze (Post 14555009)
It's $10 ....

Dumbass, didn't you fucking read his post?

No?

then stfu.

(having a dejavu?)

seeandsee 08-03-2008 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lazycash (Post 14554917)
Lol, wtf is manually? Doesn't matter who registers your domain for you, false whois info is grounds for losing your domain.

Imagine this, you send M4example B/PAYPAL to someone that runs "domains resell" and he add you credit to your account so can buy domain when ever you want without to use cc. I think it's manual job...

AND YES YOU CAN LOSE YOUR DOMAIN IF YOU USE FALSE WHOIS

Kard63 08-03-2008 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klaze (Post 14555009)
It's $10 ....

Quote:

Originally Posted by kandah (Post 14555033)
use namcheap whoisguard.-


Can you two stupid mother fuckers read?

Its $10 for you because your bitch ass has 1 domain.

rowan 08-03-2008 12:05 PM

If you have a fair few domains it might be worth asking for a discount, either the reg fee, or privacy fee, or both.

I'm with Moniker and let's just say I pay a lot less than the default $4 a year for privacy. :)

Altheon 08-03-2008 12:19 PM

Here's what I did:
1. P.O. Box
2. skype number
3. DBA

The primary goal was to be whois compliant but not make it too easy to find me. This is the security equivalent of locking the doors on your house before you leave. It's not a full blown security system. I've got a lot of domains so paying even $4 per year would cost a small fortune.

StarkReality 08-03-2008 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by rowan (Post 14555234)
I'm with Moniker and let's just say I pay a lot less than the default $4 a year for privacy. :)

Yep, I can second that, and it's not just privacy that gets alot cheaper with volume :winkwink:

klaze 08-03-2008 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by minddust (Post 14555035)
Dumbass, didn't you fucking read his post?

No?

then stfu.

(having a dejavu?)

You obviously need to grab yer dick and chill.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kard63 (Post 14555141)
Can you two stupid mother fuckers read?

Its $10 for you because your bitch ass has 1 domain.

Watch your mouth. You are soo worried about hiding don't make enemies. :)

It was a joke and so fucking what $7 per domain.. And sorry but with my host the more domains the less it costs.

Iron Fist 08-03-2008 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 14554887)
Why are you so worried about people "tracking you down"?

It seems that he's been living two lives. One life, you're a upstanding citizen. You have a social security number, pay your taxes, and are generally a respectable person. The other life is lived in the adult industry, and are guilty of peddling porn that would make your mother blush. One of these lives has a future, and one of them does not.

HomerSimpson 08-03-2008 12:47 PM

whois protection at namecheap costs about $3 so with doman renewal its about $11 to $12.

If you have more than 50 domains with them you can ask for a custom cupon to be enabled all the time that will give you a small discount.

stickyfingerz 08-03-2008 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klaze (Post 14555317)
You obviously need to grab yer dick and chill.



Watch your mouth. You are soo worried about hiding don't make enemies. :)

It was a joke and so fucking what $7 per domain.. And sorry but with my host the more domains the less it costs.

7.00 for privacy? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh I pay 2.00 per domain for privacy, but 2 x's 127 domains adds up.

Ron Bennett 08-03-2008 08:04 PM

A PO Box typically is associated with a street address and a real person(s)...

Thus the US Post Office typically requires 2 forms of documentation, at least 1 with a photo, that shows one's name associated with the street address they're applying with - ie. drivers license and vehicle registration card.

However, from my experiences in the past, the US Post Office doesn't require any documentation for the business name itself ... so one can pretty much make up anything for that.

Ron

Matt 26z 08-03-2008 08:31 PM

Anyone can find out who the owner of a US mail PO box is through the Freedom of Information Act. If you use a private mail box like Mail Boxes Etc, they are not bound to that.

If you get a PO Box, you'll probably also want to have a business name on your WhoIs. One thing I see a lot of people do is hide behind an unregistered business name on their WhoIs. If it says "ABC Internet" is the owner of domain.com, then if something happens where your registrar needs to verify ownership, they are going to ask for government issued paperwork that has "ABC Internet" on it. And if you just made that up then you won't have it.

NinjaSteve 08-03-2008 10:43 PM

How much does whois cost? Would it be cheaper to get a PO Box?

100 domains at $2 is $200 or $16 per month.
A po box or MBE box is how much per month? 15-20?

Barefootsies 08-03-2008 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 14554327)
You do realize that putting false whois info can result in your loss of the domain, right?

Exactly right.

Young 08-03-2008 10:49 PM

namecheap.com ended their free whois promotion? back to enom

d-null 08-03-2008 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Young (Post 14556542)
namecheap.com ended their free whois promotion? back to enom

wrong, namecheap still has free whois privacy with new domains or transfers, and for renewals it is then only $2.88, so namecheap are still the best deal around straight up :thumbsup


for godaddy, here is a coupon code for pretty much half price privacy ($4 instead of $9 I think) and I think it works for multiple years so you could set up a bunch of domains while the deal is on, coupon code is gdp0733a

Ron Bennett 08-03-2008 11:27 PM

A USPS PO Box, for the smallest size, is around $50 per year though it varies widely, because each local USPS PO sets their box rates.

http://www.usps.com/receive/business...boxservice.htm
And then click on the "Find the fees near you." link part way down the page, enter your zipcode and it will show you all the box rates for the local POs in your area.

As another poster pointed out, the USPS will, in many instances, reveal street address information to those who request it.

Getting a box at a private mail place like the UPS Store may be better in regards to privacy, but not necessarily, because agreements vary widely from location to location (ie. most all UPS Stores are separately owned and operated), and more to the point, such services are considered "Commercial Mail Receiving Agencys" (CMRA) ... and thus even when applying for a private mailbox, you'll likely be asked to fill out a US Post Office PS 1583.

Ron

NinjaSteve 08-05-2008 08:57 PM

Don't they need some solid excuse or legal document to request a street address from the USPS?


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