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Dirty F 07-30-2008 01:18 PM

Sales reps - its time you start working on something new
 
Better start building up something or look for a new job outside the industry soon. You will be needed less and less.

Orly? Yarly.

Deej 07-30-2008 01:18 PM

Just post tittes please...

Deej 07-30-2008 01:21 PM

http://mandymayhem.com/mandyhose.jpg

I saved this thread!!!

tony286 07-30-2008 01:26 PM

cool pic and that will suck for the reps. I hope for them its not true.

fuzebox 07-30-2008 01:39 PM

I always wonder why more reps don't have their own traffic network on the side...

How exactly are they supposed to help affiliates without any hands on experience?

C-Bass 07-30-2008 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 14533276)
I always wonder why more reps don't have their own traffic network on the side...

How exactly are they supposed to help affiliates without any hands on experience?

Couldnt have said it better myself :thumbsup

BradM 07-30-2008 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 14533276)
I always wonder why more reps don't have their own traffic network on the side...

How exactly are they supposed to help affiliates without any hands on experience?

They don't.

xmas13 07-30-2008 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BradM (Post 14533329)
They don't.

Well-said. :winkwink:

ADL Colin 07-30-2008 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Deej (Post 14533134)

whatever else happens in this thread i'm glad this pic will be here to save it

rowan 07-30-2008 01:51 PM

Smart reps have their own traffic AND directly benefit from being able to learn about how good affiliates make sales... :2 cents:

SykkBoy 07-30-2008 01:52 PM

I'm saving up for breast implants...

pixovore 07-30-2008 02:00 PM

Do you know an existing multi Brand Sales Rep?
I keep wondering why sales reps seems to be "monobranded" (pimped)

JamesK 07-30-2008 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 14533276)
I always wonder why more reps don't have their own traffic network on the side...

How exactly are they supposed to help affiliates without any hands on experience?

Then again, why would you want to be a sales rep if you can make money off your network :1orglaugh

kristin 07-30-2008 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 14533276)
I always wonder why more reps don't have their own traffic network on the side...

How exactly are they supposed to help affiliates without any hands on experience?

I have worked with the hubby (TheDoc) on his programs and such, but I do not have MY OWN traffic network. I don't have a ton of time with kids and the random classes I take.

So after the office I'm online a lot at home but not doing my own traffic, just still doing my sales shit.

But I like to think I can help affiliates no problem ...

SomeCreep 07-30-2008 04:03 PM

Sales reps will always be needed. Especially for handling webmaster related support/issues and office work which pertains to the business.

Tjeezers 07-30-2008 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 14533276)
I always wonder why more reps don't have their own traffic network on the side...

How exactly are they supposed to help affiliates without any hands on experience?

No wants to hire me... probably i`m over qualified
:thumbsup oohh no, i get always the question, why don`t you sell as affiliate for us instead of working for a salaray. it is never good :winkwink:

MOxxx 07-30-2008 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 14533276)
I always wonder why more reps don't have their own traffic network on the side...

How exactly are they supposed to help affiliates without any hands on experience?

That's why they are sales rep ;)

Klen 07-30-2008 05:11 PM

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...1/12/O_RLY.jpg
http://www.o--rly.com/owl_yarly.png

Voodoo 07-30-2008 05:11 PM

I'm about to launch my automated sales bot army.

Iron Fist 07-30-2008 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 14533276)
I always wonder why more reps don't have their own traffic network on the side...

How exactly are they supposed to help affiliates without any hands on experience?

Some posts are so good they deserve this..:thumbsup:thumbsup

http://www.nnteenmodels.net/gfy/clapping.gif

Voodoo 07-30-2008 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by sharphead (Post 14534270)
Some posts are so good they deserve this..:thumbsup:thumbsup

http://www.nnteenmodels.net/gfy/clapping.gif

http://www.nnteenmodels.net/gfy/clapping.gif

biskoppen 07-30-2008 05:15 PM

Who's the guy with the sugar hair?

SykkBoy 07-30-2008 05:16 PM

multi-task sales reps will always be needed...
those that can handle sales, support, backend shit, affiliate stuff, traffic management, etc.

those used to be 2-3-4 separate people, now they have to be melded into one...

Babaganoosh 07-30-2008 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 14533276)
I always wonder why more reps don't have their own traffic network on the side...

How exactly are they supposed to help affiliates without any hands on experience?

Programs hire hot chicks to entertain poor, lonely, ass-chasing webmasters. Right now the only prerequisites for being an affiliate rep seem to be being female and a willingness to call webmasters hun and sweetie. 90% of webmasters eat that shit up. I almost never talk to an affiliate rep who knows even a fraction of what I know. What could someone like that possibly do to help me? A prerequisite for being an affiliate rep should be real experience in the business as well as operating their own websites.

That's a catch-22 though. If they had the knowledge to make their sites a success they wouldn't need to be an affiliate rep. Unfortunately, no program would ever pay what someone who knows their shit would demand for their expertise.

jimbowski 07-30-2008 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deej (Post 14533134)

I saved this thread!!!

I saved this picture

Nicky 07-30-2008 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Babaganoosh (Post 14534320)
Programs hire hot chicks to entertain poor, lonely, ass-chasing webmasters. Right now the only prerequisites for being an affiliate rep seem to be being female and a willingness to call webmasters hun and sweetie. 90% of webmasters eat that shit up. I almost never talk to an affiliate rep who knows even a fraction of what I know. What could someone like that possibly do to help me? A prerequisite for being an affiliate rep should be real experience in the business as well as operating their own websites.

That's a catch-22 though. If they had the knowledge to make their sites a success they wouldn't need to be an affiliate rep. Unfortunately, no program would ever pay what someone who knows their shit would demand for their expertise.

% deals can come a long way. Who the fuck hires a sales rep that have no insight in the biz and don't know what it's like to be an affiliate? Those are called board whores.

edit: sales rep is loose term though.

Xrated J 07-30-2008 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 14533276)
I always wonder why more reps don't have their own traffic network on the side...

How exactly are they supposed to help affiliates without any hands on experience?

i have my own shit on the side :thumbsup

Scroto 07-30-2008 06:09 PM

ive yet to come across any sales reps that have actually helped me lol

maybe im meeting the wrong ones :(:(

Nicky 07-30-2008 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Scroto (Post 14534522)
ive yet to come across any sales reps that have actually helped me lol

maybe im meeting the wrong ones :(:(

Some have helped me, usually that is just with content and site access etc. I'm not in that state that I have to ask an affiliate rep how to market their stuff, unless he is well-known for being good at SEO or something.

crockett 07-30-2008 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xrated J (Post 14534492)
i have my own shit on the side :thumbsup

I didn't know anyone else was in Daytona Beach.. besides BV anyway but he's south.

Robbie 07-30-2008 06:19 PM

What is it that you guys need help with anyway? I've always figured WE as affiliates are supposed to already know how to market and work our own traffic. The only thing I need from a program is somebody to give me anything special I may need...which is rare. I'm not sure what you guys are exactly expecting from a programs affiliate rep.

They already have a webmaster area, hosted everything, and basically hold your hand. Back the clock up to the "good old days" that you hear everybody talking about...say late 1990's. They gave you NOTHING. We had to buy content. Build galleries. Host them ourselves and drive traffic too. Oh yeah...they gave us banners.

I'm just wondering what the complaint now is. And what more do you want from an affiliate rep. And if you happen to be one of our affiliates at SOLO SLUT CASH what more you might need from us.

crockett 07-30-2008 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 14534562)
What is it that you guys need help with anyway? I've always figured WE as affiliates are supposed to already know how to market and work our own traffic. The only thing I need from a program is somebody to give me anything special I may need...which is rare. I'm not sure what you guys are exactly expecting from a programs affiliate rep.

They already have a webmaster area, hosted everything, and basically hold your hand. Back the clock up to the "good old days" that you hear everybody talking about...say late 1990's. They gave you NOTHING. We had to buy content. Build galleries. Host them ourselves and drive traffic too. Oh yeah...they gave us banners.

I'm just wondering what the complaint now is. And what more do you want from an affiliate rep. And if you happen to be one of our affiliates at SOLO SLUT CASH what more you might need from us.

Yea that's pretty much the way I look at it. The only time I contact a sale rep, is if something wrong.

tony286 07-30-2008 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 14534562)
What is it that you guys need help with anyway? I've always figured WE as affiliates are supposed to already know how to market and work our own traffic. The only thing I need from a program is somebody to give me anything special I may need...which is rare. I'm not sure what you guys are exactly expecting from a programs affiliate rep.

They already have a webmaster area, hosted everything, and basically hold your hand. Back the clock up to the "good old days" that you hear everybody talking about...say late 1990's. They gave you NOTHING. We had to buy content. Build galleries. Host them ourselves and drive traffic too. Oh yeah...they gave us banners.

I'm just wondering what the complaint now is. And what more do you want from an affiliate rep. And if you happen to be one of our affiliates at SOLO SLUT CASH what more you might need from us.

I figured the hosting, you had to buy the content also?

Robbie 07-30-2008 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 14534571)
I figured the hosting, you had to buy the content also?

Oh yeah...we used to have to buy content discs and make galleries. And I'd make up some wild bullshit about what the girl did in the site. And of course, the girl wasn't even IN that site! LOL!
Later on, Max Cash started SELLING content to their affiliates. I still have one of those old discs.
But yeah, it was pretty much everybody buying the cheapest old content you could find. Then shuffling through thousands of pics to make a "teen" gallery or an "amateur" gallery.
Fortunately it didn't really matter if you made a sale back then.

The members areas were just an afterthought and the entire business ran on the three or four big companies at the time selling traffic to each other through the 50 million pop ups that they had on their sites. You sent some traffic to a Max Cash site and there would be a popup with 100 ARS sites on it! LOL!

So they basically would just say "oh you made 650 sales this month at $40 per sale" Even though you probably didn't make any :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

The good old days... :disgust

Scroto 07-30-2008 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky (Post 14534531)
Some have helped me, usually that is just with content and site access etc. I'm not in that state that I have to ask an affiliate rep how to market their stuff, unless he is well-known for being good at SEO or something.

I agree, same here.. just access or content question, but thats about it..

I just could have worded my reply a lot better :thumbsup

fuzebox 07-30-2008 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 14534562)
What is it that you guys need help with anyway? I've always figured WE as affiliates are supposed to already know how to market and work our own traffic. The only thing I need from a program is somebody to give me anything special I may need...which is rare. I'm not sure what you guys are exactly expecting from a programs affiliate rep.

It was just an observation mostly, I never need anything from any affiliate reps. But then again when you post a bad ratio on GFY the very first thing they say is "how come you didn't contact us?"...

Xrated J 07-30-2008 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 14534543)
I didn't know anyone else was in Daytona Beach.. besides BV anyway but he's south.

born and raised. :thumbsup

Deej 07-30-2008 08:17 PM

K, i posted titty pics Here

I should be paid for a week!

Robbie 07-30-2008 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 14534756)
It was just an observation mostly, I never need anything from any affiliate reps. But then again when you post a bad ratio on GFY the very first thing they say is "how come you didn't contact us?"...

That's true...I guess a little "damage control" is probably part of the gig too. Makes sense.

Iron Fist 07-30-2008 08:48 PM

Sales reps are like forum moderators :)

Uh oh...

XoXo Cash 07-30-2008 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 14534543)
I didn't know anyone else was in Daytona Beach.. besides BV anyway but he's south.

actually....that makes 3 of us :)
bunch of freaks in this town i suppose lol

wanted 07-30-2008 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowan (Post 14533347)
Smart reps have their own traffic AND directly benefit from being able to learn about how good affiliates make sales... :2 cents:

I've been wondering the same for years..

mynameisjim 07-30-2008 10:20 PM

I think the only time I contact reps is when I need a password reset or site access or some other thing like that. I almost never ask for sales help because the response is usually pretty worthless.

Not saying all, but most. A few programs I've worked with the sales rep has his own network on the side and you can spot those guys pretty quick after just a quick conversation.

But you could say the same about Google. Their adsense reps don't seem too eager to give up the goods on tricks and techniques. But maybe I'm just too small for them care.

XoXo Cash 07-30-2008 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Babaganoosh (Post 14534320)
Programs hire hot chicks to entertain poor, lonely, ass-chasing webmasters. Right now the only prerequisites for being an affiliate rep seem to be being female and a willingness to call webmasters hun and sweetie. 90% of webmasters eat that shit up.


HA...I got a great laugh from this one, sweetie!!! ;)

but yeah... content info., access passes, and a bit of damage control are definitely part of what i do. im kind of like the secretary/customer service chick at the front of the office that keeps everything organized, knows all of the ins and outs about whats going on on a daily basis, makes sure that any and all loose ends are tied up and taken care of, keeps up with contacts, and filters out all of the bullshit.
my name is carly...i'm the affiliate rep for xoxocash.com...feel free to contact me any time at [email protected] if you think i could possibly be of any use to you and make things run just a little bit smoother than anything else that you've had the pleasure of dealing with during your hectic day :) thanks huh!!

Altheon 07-31-2008 12:30 AM

Best line I ever heard from a rep at a show:

Me: "So what did you do before you became a rep?"
Rep: "Unemployed."

2012 07-31-2008 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doodoo (Post 14534276)

... and GOOD DAY sir ! :1orglaugh

crockett 07-31-2008 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XoXo Cash (Post 14535038)
actually....that makes 3 of us :)
bunch of freaks in this town i suppose lol

oh well hell send Leah over.. :jerkoff

NinjaSteve 07-31-2008 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sharphead (Post 14534270)
Some posts are so good they deserve this..:thumbsup:thumbsup

http://www.nnteenmodels.net/gfy/clapping.gif

Quote:

Originally Posted by Voodoo (Post 14534276)


http://www.nnteenmodels.net/gfy/clapping.gif

NinjaSteve 07-31-2008 01:25 AM

You know what I haven't figured out? Why don't most people (owners/reps/whoever) touch base with affiliates that send traffic? It's not that hard to figure out where your sales are coming from especially with so many programs using nats. It's not tough to say If an affiliate sends you 20-30 sales in a month and then backs off, you should be asking why. As an affiliate manager, that's your job.

I think that's where Metal Cash really steps up to the plate. They've messaged me to ask when, why, how, and so on. That's what I call true professionalism.

rowan 07-31-2008 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by JamesK (Post 14533534)
Then again, why would you want to be a sales rep if you can make money off your network :1orglaugh

Reverse engineering

I'm sure the large programs have at least one staff member who is good at figuring out how their top affiliates make money.


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