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NinjaSteve 07-24-2008 07:01 PM

How do I chck Class C on multiple IPs?
 
How can I check to see if multiple IPs or domains are hosted on the same class C?

Supz 07-24-2008 07:04 PM

Xxx.xxx.xxx.*

WiredGuy 07-24-2008 07:05 PM

1) Do ip lookup on domain
2) If ccc in the following is the same for all domains/ips: aaa.bbb.ccc.*
Then you're on the same c-block.

WG

baddog 07-24-2008 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NinjaSteve (Post 14503449)
How can I check to see if multiple IPs or domains are hosted on the same class C?

I presume you mean how can you tell if other sites are hosted on a particular IP.

You can be sure that over a C Class, there will be 255 IP's on it, and unless it is new, it would probably have a few domains on it.

Pleasurepays 07-24-2008 07:08 PM

worst ninja ever

beta-tester 07-24-2008 07:17 PM

that is not class C.

beta-tester 07-24-2008 07:20 PM

I recommend reading:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classful_network
and
http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/C/Class_C_network.html

To everyone who thinks aaa.bbb.CCC.ddd CCC is C class ip address :)

d-null 07-24-2008 07:42 PM

I interpreted his rather minimally worded question a little differently, and he is going to have to come back and let us know exactly what theheck he was trying to ask....

but I think he is asking 'how can I run a bulk check on a bunch of domains to see if any of them share a common class c'

not sure if he is looking for a step by step on how to run one of the many whois sites on the net to find out the ip that a domain is hosted on and write them down to compare them by hand or if he is looking for some kind of script to be written to do the check in bulk for him....

baddog 07-24-2008 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beta-tester (Post 14503525)
To everyone who thinks aaa.bbb.CCC.ddd CCC is C class ip address :)

What is it then?

Quote:

Originally Posted by jetjet (Post 14503607)
but I think he is asking 'how can I run a bulk check on a bunch of domains to see if any of them share a common class c'

You definitely read between the lines and fill in the blanks.

d-null 07-24-2008 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 14503659)
What is it then?



You definitely read between the lines and fill in the blanks.

:winkwink:

and on beta tester's correct comment, I think there is a bit of a different take on the concept of 'different class c' when talking seo than the strict class designations he is talking about

there is no official comment from google on it anyways, but it has grown from the belief that a site performs better in the serps if the links it shares are from domains on different ip's, and it has been said that even sequential ip's may not be seen as 'separated sites' by google's algorithms... so I think when most seo people talk about "different class c's", they just mean ip's that are not closely designated, ie. aaa.bbb.CCC.ddd, although that is obviously not the proper definition of 'class c' in which different class c's could be sequential

that is my take on it anyways, feel free to add to it or argue the issue

Wang Dong 07-24-2008 08:25 PM

so if on cheap shared host, is it possible that my ip (not just c class, the whole) is shared by many many other sites? and if so, how does that influence SEO?

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 14503659)
What is it then?



You definitely read between the lines and fill in the blanks.


baddog 07-24-2008 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wang Dong (Post 14503705)
so if on cheap shared host, is it possible that my ip (not just c class, the whole) is shared by many many other sites? and if so, how does that influence SEO?

You can be relatively confident that if you are paying $4.95 a month you have a shared IP.

As far as the value of a dedicated IP is concerned, Bruce Clay (very respected SEO guru) observed that although only 3 percent of websites are on dedicated IPs, well over 90 percent of the top-50 results in the search engines are sites having dedicated IP numbers. They confirmed this by moving a site from a shared IP to a dedicated IP and noticed ?significant ranking increases.?

Additionally, if you share an IP with an unseemly website owner you run the risk of having the entire IP banned, instantly losing your search credibility. And some hosts will put upwards of 9,000 different domains on one IP.

Wang Dong 07-24-2008 10:18 PM

it is a good answer

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 14503736)
You can be relatively confident that if you are paying $4.95 a month you have a shared IP.

As far as the value of a dedicated IP is concerned, Bruce Clay (very respected SEO guru) observed that although only 3 percent of websites are on dedicated IPs, well over 90 percent of the top-50 results in the search engines are sites having dedicated IP numbers. They confirmed this by moving a site from a shared IP to a dedicated IP and noticed ?significant ranking increases.?

Additionally, if you share an IP with an unseemly website owner you run the risk of having the entire IP banned, instantly losing your search credibility. And some hosts will put upwards of 9,000 different domains on one IP.


moeloubani 07-24-2008 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 14503736)
You can be relatively confident that if you are paying $4.95 a month you have a shared IP.

As far as the value of a dedicated IP is concerned, Bruce Clay (very respected SEO guru) observed that although only 3 percent of websites are on dedicated IPs, well over 90 percent of the top-50 results in the search engines are sites having dedicated IP numbers. They confirmed this by moving a site from a shared IP to a dedicated IP and noticed ?significant ranking increases.?

Additionally, if you share an IP with an unseemly website owner you run the risk of having the entire IP banned, instantly losing your search credibility. And some hosts will put upwards of 9,000 different domains on one IP.

As a scientific type of guy I can always appreciate the results of an experiment like that :)

Thanks for the info!

Zoose 07-24-2008 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 14503736)
You can be relatively confident that if you are paying $4.95 a month you have a shared IP.

As far as the value of a dedicated IP is concerned, Bruce Clay (very respected SEO guru) observed that although only 3 percent of websites are on dedicated IPs, well over 90 percent of the top-50 results in the search engines are sites having dedicated IP numbers. They confirmed this by moving a site from a shared IP to a dedicated IP and noticed ?significant ranking increases.?

Additionally, if you share an IP with an unseemly website owner you run the risk of having the entire IP banned, instantly losing your search credibility. And some hosts will put upwards of 9,000 different domains on one IP.

I remember reading that article YEARS ago.. I wonder if it still holds true. I know penisbot.com and wetplace.com are both on the same IP, transparently interlinked, and both do extremely well in the search engines. Obviously there's a ton of other factors that influence serps..

NinjaSteve 07-24-2008 11:10 PM

Sorry for the confusion, my post wasn't the greatest and I was in a bit of a rush and I was just looking at domains and IPs for a while so I said IP instead of domain in my title.

I was curious if there's a way to check many domains at one time (bulk checker) to determine if multiple domains are on the same or different Class C IPs.

baddog 07-24-2008 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoose (Post 14504144)
I remember reading that article YEARS ago.. I wonder if it still holds true.

Well, I remember how his eyes lit up when I told him we did not share IP's.

Also, there was a recent blog entry made on his site where the author cited that quote, so I am guessing it still helps.

But yes, there may be another factor or two that figures into the equation.

nico-t 07-25-2008 03:45 AM

http://www.webrankinfo.com/english/t...-c-checker.php

baddog 07-25-2008 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 14504707)

Good link. Forgot about it.

rowan 07-25-2008 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beta-tester (Post 14503525)
I recommend reading:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classful_network
and
http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/C/Class_C_network.html

To everyone who thinks aaa.bbb.CCC.ddd CCC is C class ip address :)

Technically referring to each "block of 256 IPs" as a class C isn't correct, but these days it seems to be pretty much accepted as convention in SEO...

BTW baddog, in theory you could have the full 256 IPs per xxx.xxx.xxx.* block; with classless allocations you can use .0 and .255 as normal IPs.


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