Originally Posted by MediaGuy (Post 14504176)

OK. You're right. Why spend billions to demolish old buildings when we can just set a desk on fire and have the whole thing come down symetrically.

It's a conspiracy by demolition companies to preserve their market.

What a joke. "Collapse" lol

Originally Posted by MediaGuy (Post 14504176)

OK. You're right. Why spend billions to demolish old buildings when we can just set a desk on fire and have the whole thing come down symetrically.

It's a conspiracy by demolition companies to preserve their market.

What a joke. "Collapse" lol

Originally Posted by MediaGuy (Post 14504250)

Perfect symetry in a so-called pancake collapse just isn't possible - especially three times in a row, with regular fuel fires, for the first (three) times in history.

Originally Posted by MediaGuy (Post 14504250)

Perfect symetry in a so-called pancake collapse of steel structured buildings just isn't possible - especially three times in a row, with regular fuel fires, for the first (three) times in history.

Originally Posted by moeloubani (Post 14504271)

But I'm just not sure how Bush knew 2 hours after it happened who did it.

Originally Posted by Malicious Biz (Post 14504279)

Who else would've been the prime suspect in a major terrorist attack against the US other than bin laden, silly?

It's not like he hadn't commited several other prior major attacks including the first attack on the towers.


and do you honestly believe anyone with knowledge of the attacks, bush included, would just sit back and let thousands of people die? come the fuck on.

Originally Posted by moeloubani (Post 14504282)

You mean who else would attack the most hated country in the world? Is that the question you're asking? Do you still want an answer?

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 14504267)

A fucking plane hit those 2 towers! Dont you fucking get it? A plane! A plane destroyed a few floors! Stop crying about how just a fire brought a building down. One floor collapses finally and the top of the building drops on the other floors and it pancakes down. How hard is that to fucking understand you fucking retard boy.

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 14504157)

Loose change is the biggest piece of shit docu you can find on the internet. Its full of made up "facts" and biased "facts" and left out evidence which would prove stuff the creator of the movie couldnt use. Any person who uses this movie for facts is a total fucking retard.

Originally Posted by kandah (Post 14504373)

Every single fact in the final cut has been checked by a professor.

Originally Posted by Malicious Biz (Post 14504288)

Bin laden was prime suspect, that's how he "knew". Get it over it.

Originally Posted by moeloubani (Post 14504391)

As much as you'd like to think it with this statement and the one you made after about Steven E. Jones, your words mean absolute shit.

Even the dumbest person in the world knows that you can't just say someone did something without any sort of investigation or proof. Just that you say so, again, means absolutely shit all.

You know what I mean by that? You saying he was the prime suspect means absolutely nothing, 0.

And who are you to criticize a physicist? Again remember, what you say means shit all. If a doctor who has gone to school, earned his degrees and knows his shit says something about all you need to do is shut up and nod.

Originally Posted by Malicious Biz (Post 14504395)

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Originally Posted by moeloubani (Post 14504397)

Exactly. Enjoy a life of being an ignorant fool.

Originally Posted by kandah (Post 14504373)

Every single fact in the final cut has been checked by a professor.

Originally Posted by moeloubani (Post 14504391)

Even the dumbest person in the world knows that you can't just say someone did something without any sort of investigation or proof. Just that you say so, again, means absolutely shit all.

Originally Posted by moeloubani (Post 14504391)

If a doctor who has gone to school, earned his degrees and knows his shit says something about all you need to do is shut up and nod.

Originally Posted by Malicious Biz (Post 14504482)

Ok now that I'm done laughing at your feeble attempt at a comeback...


Why can't you? Law enforcement accuse people of crimes all the time with little to no investigation. Do you know what they call those accused people?

Prime Suspects.



Maybe he knows his shit... about physics.
But when it comes to the complexities of skyscraper construction a physics degree falls short in determining the causes of a catastrophic collapse. Such a call can only be made by those qualified to make such determinations. ENGINEERS not Physicists.

Physics professor is no more qualified to investage a structural collapse than a philosophy professor is to perform brain surgery.

Originally Posted by moeloubani (Post 14504544)

First of all, engineering (by definition) is the practical application of physics. But I wouldn't expect you to know that.

Originally Posted by moeloubani (Post 14504544)

Second of all, I'm not sure where you get your info from but as far as I know, law enforcement (or at least in the real world, not in your fantasy land) doesn't say we KNOW who did it unless they have PROOF. They say we think they did it, and then they INVESTIGATE (unlike what they do in your fantasy land, investage). And THEN they can say ok this person DID do it, now lets punish them.

Originally Posted by Malicious Biz (Post 14504600)

An all knowing brilliant physics professor is a valuable asset to any university, let alone a mormon university.. so why on earth would BYU send jones packing?

Oh that's right.. because he's a fucking loon ranting about shit he knows very little about.




But see the difference is Bush didn't "know", he, like most everyone on planet earth came to that conclusion after we all saw the second plane hit the towers.

WE PRETTY MUCH ALL "KNEW" WHO FUCKING DID IT.

Originally Posted by moeloubani (Post 14504608)

They sent him packing because he was doing something that was bringing bad attention to the school.

Originally Posted by moeloubani (Post 14504621)

Now does he know what he's talking about?

Originally Posted by moeloubani (Post 14504634)

Without physics engineering is nothing. So far removed from one another? Engineering relies 100% on physics.

Originally Posted by Physicist Dave Rogers

Speaking as a person with a PhD in Physics who has peer reviewed papers, I would have advised rejection of this paper for publication in any serious scientific journal, quite possibly without the option of a re-write. I started writing down my reasons, but quite frankly I don't have time. Suffice it to say, this is not a scientific paper, follows nothing remotely similar to scientific methodology, contains numerous obvious errors, unsupported assertions and misceptions about many subjects including the nature of controlled demolitions, contradicts its own findings in places, and appears at times to be deliberately attempting to mislead the reader. It has been extensively criticised elsewhere, and I have little to add except one point I haven't seen emphasised:

Jones claims that the liquid running from one of the corners of one of the WTC towers cannot be aluminium and must therefore be molten steel. From the emission colour he estimates its temperature at 1000 C. Elsewhere in the paper he quotes the melting point of structural steel as 1510 C. His own analysis therefore contradicts his own conclusions. For him to have published such a thing suggests a serious loss of ability for self-criticism that is unacceptable in a serious scientist.

Overall this paper is an appallingly bad piece of scientific analysis.

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 14504239)

How exactly is a building with that height and weight supposed to come down other than collapsing straight down? It should somehow collapse horizontally or something?

Originally Posted by StuartD (Post 14504858)

:eek7 How about.... falling over?

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 14504892)

Why? Why would it do that?

Originally Posted by Malicious Biz (Post 14504279)

and do you honestly believe anyone with knowledge of the attacks, bush included, would just sit back and let thousands of people die? come the fuck on.

Originally Posted by StuartD (Post 14504858)

:eek7 How about.... falling over?

Originally Posted by StuartD (Post 14504905)

Because that's what every other building in the history of the world has done when it falls (other than controlled demolitions)?
Because that's what happens when something really big hits something really tall?
Because something with a huge hole in it is likely to have a weaker point on one side than the other and thus likely to fail on one side before the other?

Want more reasons?

Originally Posted by biskoppen (Post 14505242)

You do know how evil works right?
I'm not saying that Bush did it... but this is the exact same thing Hitler did... and it worked for him

Originally Posted by Malicious Biz (Post 14505259)

Hitler, all his cronies, and all law enforcement privy to the knowledge sat back and let an outside terrorist attack take place that killed thousands of their own citizens without lifting one finger to prevent it?

Originally Posted by Malicious Biz (Post 14504236)

Bill Clinton couldn't get away with a blow job and Nixon Couldn't get away with a two-bit burglary. But yet you idiots think that the most inept presidential administration in recent history pulled off the crime of the century?

LOL.