What is a common freeezinebucks ratio?
 

Just curious what are the normal ratios expected for this sponsor?

Hows everyone doing with them?

dollar signs ups suck, but the ratios are good. I personally can do more with my traffic I feel.

:smokin

Depends how much you send here are my stats for October. If you send around 6000 a day it is around 1 in 50 for me. It all depends on many factors. Some individual ezines convert at like 1 in 19. This is just all sites combined.

Oct Ezine Stats.
http://sexvine.com/oct.gif

there is hard to say what's average ratio for FEB, all depends how to promote them, and source of traffic:winkwink:

what's your rank in sales?

I had my best day yesterday and was in the top 20 or so :)

I shit you not, FEB's ratios are great, I was clocking 1:15 with click through traffic. After learning their tricks though I have my own email collection system [nope, there's no affiliate program, its completely my own] and it clocks 1:4 The key is to have the user come to you instead of popping up all sorts of bullshit windows or blind linking them in.

Also, using the right graphics and layout helps a LOT. Since I want my ratios to stay the same I can only encourage you to keep experimenting with layouts until you hit your target conversion rate.

I'm talking very small traffic numbers here, but my numbers were great for a while ... they went to hell in a handbasket about six weeks ago and only lately seem to have been picking up.

Vanderweb,

What type of traffic are you sending to FEB?

I just signed up with them yesterday and I'm sending all TGP currently.

Thank you.

nice vanderweb :-) I reached 24 or so a week ago.

FEB really rocks. I convert 1:6-1:10(rarely) and a large % of my traffic is exit. My worst ratio the last 3 months was 1:16
I think it was when they had some server problems. Large % of the sales come from a specific ezine that converts steadily 1:2 but it's a secret :-)

The traffic is from several sites. A few are tgps and others are kind of inbetween cj2 / tgp. Quite a bit of the traffic going to FEB is from search engines. The remaining traffic comes from trades ...

I think the search engines create most of the sales :)

Thanks Soul_Rebel those are some awesome conversion ratios. If you have icq would love to chat with ya. Glad to hear you are doing good with them too :thumbsup

I used to do a lot of sales with freeezinebucks when they first came out, but not anymore.

thanks, I know webmasters doing way better. My icq is 164819091

Anyone else want to comment on this?

I think the ratios for this sponsor should be like 1:5 because everyone has an e-mail address and there is no reason they shouldn't use it to get 100% free adult material.

It is a no brainer, but maybe our surfers have no brains. Then we have a problem...

I don't promote FEB but im at about 1:7 with another per email sponsor. They are doing pretty well, though they batch process deductions so it's a little heartbreaking recently.

I just started with FEB on Wednesday of this week and I'm like 1:75 right now. I've just sent them about 350 clicks so far.

I really really don't understand what the hell people are doing where they are only signing up 1 in 75 people. It is FREE and what don't people understand about the word FREE.

You put in your e-mail address and you get access to FREE adult material. Do they need a kick in the nuts first before they realize what to do next?

Geez...

1:75 is a pretty poor ratio
I was doing 1:7 on SE traffic and now average about 1:15 with a mix.

Believe it or not you have to sell the free programs as much as you would an ordinary sponsor.

try pushing your clicks thru a fpa that really sells it then bouncing the exits off to traffic trades or some other sponsor

1:5 exit traffic

One of the main reasons FEB has such a hard time with consitant conversions as opposed to say WEGcash sites, is becuase the ezines are represented by a single page where as other 4free sponsors will have a small tour.

Therefore, you have to presell your traffic much better to obtion good ratios with FEB. Using a descripted full page ad to send the traffic usually does the trick.

RMG

The ratios have gone down because there are tons of popups after you close an FEB registration page. There's even a pop-under when you get to the registration page.

If these didn't exist, our ratios would improve about %40.

RMG, do you like most of the FPA's that FEB has to offer?

I think a few of theirs would be good to use, I might try that out.

#11 rank yesturday, 1:17 ratio.

Ace-Ace, have any good tips for me and what is your main traffic source?

Thank you.

No tips in particular, and non-adult sites.

Funny how non adult traffic is signing up for adult material.

Hmmm...

Those are some horrible ratios. I do 1:21 steady with the same amount of traffic... but mine is SE not TGP... so I guess that's the factor...

Got no idea...

Hmm ... you want me to show you individual ezines that I convert 1 in 22 with ?

This is an overall block of all traffic from all ezines. Why don't you post your stats :)

Since I started with FEB this wednesday, I have just 7 sales and sent about 450 hits, 1:64 isn't too good when it doesn't cost people anything to signup.

What else can I do to get better ratios?

2416 2307 167 1:13 $167.00

I don't send a lot of traffic to FEB at all but I just checked and my ratio is 1:10.

What I do like is the stats info they provide. Find a good a good ezine that converts and send your shit traffic there, $1 is better than nothing. I wouldn't send good traffic there though, not enough bang for my buck.

sexyclicks, is that for today and what kind of traffic is giving you a ratio like that?

OVERALL TOTAL: 4699 4165 213 1:19 $215.00

95% error traffic. :glugglug

Joe, are those numbers for today or the period so far?

That is 404 traffic?

That is my overall total for quite a few months.

And yes, it is virtually all 404 traffic.

I'd take a screenshot of the stats but I've not sure how its done.

Ctrl+ PrtSc
the Ctrl+ V the results into paint or photoshop

thats how my stats use to be...

Ok, how are your stats now? :)

518 505 7 1:72 $7.00 that is me, but I just started with them on Wednesday of this week.

I have always sent a significant amount of traffic to FEB. Over the last few months, there has been no noticable change in ratios. That said, I do change my advertising message quite often..it's amazing what changing a single word or 2 can do to either improve or decrease sign-ups.

655099 563781 24314 1:23 $24,401.50

10-16-2002 - thru - 10-31-2002 Date / Site 8 8 1 1:8 $1.00
10-01-2002 - thru - 10-15-2002 Date / Site 14 14 0 0:14 $0.00
09-16-2002 - thru - 09-30-2002 Date / Site 68 67 4 1:16 $4.00
09-01-2002 - thru - 09-15-2002 Date / Site 183 181 15 1:12 $15.00
08-16-2002 - thru - 08-31-2002 Date / Site 244 243 21 1:11 $21.00
08-01-2002 - thru - 08-15-2002 Date / Site 437 432 21 1:20 $21.00
07-16-2002 - thru - 07-31-2002 Date / Site 348 339 17 1:19 $17.00
07-01-2002 - thru - 07-15-2002 Date / Site 334 330 17 1:19 $19.00
06-16-2002 - thru - 06-30-2002 Date / Site 530 524 9 1:58 $9.00
06-01-2002 - thru - 06-15-2002 Date / Site 533 438 14 1:31 $14.00
05-16-2002 - thru - 05-31-2002 Date / Site 924 722 40 1:18 $40.00
05-01-2002 - thru - 05-15-2002 Date / Site 843 681 39 1:17 $39.00
04-16-2002 - thru - 04-30-2002 Date / Site 124 104 10 1:10 $10.00
04-01-2002 - thru - 04-15-2002 Date / Site 85 59 3 1:19 $3.00
03-16-2002 - thru - 03-31-2002 Date / Site 24 23 2 1:11 $2.00
OVERALL TOTAL: 4699 4165 213 1:19 $215.00


I dropped them about a month ago but not because conversions were decling but because I wanted to test another program.

The October traffic is just a couple of banners I have buried away.

I've had more experience with the 4free model than just about anyone and let me tell you that without popups 4free programs would not be able to exist without playing some very obvious games or lowering payouts significantly. Popups are a double edged sword. You hate them because they reduce your income and conversions, but they are the reason that most sponsors are able to pay what they do and not shave like a mofo.

Get used to it..

Hey how are ppl doing with their new program that's in beta-testing (http://www.freeticketcash.com , I believe).. I heard some reaaaalllyy good conversions are taking place..

I don't believe that this is owned and operated by FEB. As one of their top webmasters, consistently in the top 7 or better, I am always offered first dibs on beta testing any new products. Haven't heard a peep about freeticketcash.

Not really, when a surfer sees a porn on a non adult site they get horny, and unlike other pages with pics, links to sponsors, etc.. it is the only 'source of porn' that is in their face the moment.

Although if you do this you will get people bitching at you 24/7 "my kid saw your site", etc.

I think they actually had an announcement on PornResource about it...

Rule of thumb: Anytime a new 4free type program comes out the conversions are going to be really good and then slowly drop. Pretty much all 4free programs will not give you credit for an e-mail that is already in their database. The regular porn surfers out there that look for 4free sites to join sign up to many 4free sites. Once they are in the database if they sign up for another site from that program you usually will not get credit for it because it is not a unique join. Once a large chunk of the regular 4free type site surfers join up with a new program you start to see more and more repeat people joining up with different sites on the same program. If you are using links that do not state what the site name is you will see an even quicker drop in conversions. If Joe Blow that likes to sign up for 4free sites and looks for them clicks a link on your page that says "Free Teen Site Membership" and then gets to the site and realizes it is one that he has already joined your ratio gets worse. The longer a site is out there the more this will happen and the worse ratios with a program will get. Different programs count clicks and signups different ways but this is generally true for most of the older 4free sites.

10-16-2002 1146 1120 18 1:62 $18.00
10-17-2002 1143 1122 13 1:86 $13.00
10-18-2002 1402 1367 13 1:105 $13.00
10-19-2002 1254 1227 12 1:102 $12.00
10-20-2002 1096 1070 13 1:82 $13.00
10-21-2002 1157 1137 11 1:103 $11.00
10-22-2002 1158 1140 20 1:57 $20.00

i can't see how stupid can be surfers, 1:76 average rate through FEB FPA's, it really sucks

49thParallel, my conversions are a lot better today so far I'm 1:20. Did you want to discuss what our text messages are saying to compare and contrast. Maybe one of us has something that would help the other one out :)

We can discuss over ICQ or something if you want.