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theking 10-21-2002 10:36 PM

Mika
 
quote:
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Originally posted by mika
Assumptions

1. Iraq is threatening USA
2. USA believe that the Iraqi threat is a threat against US interests and sovereignty
3. USA has a right for "preventive" attacks against Iraq
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Irag is not threatening the USA, but is and has been taking overt actions against the USA.

#1 Iraq was defeated in battle and to obtain a cease fire agreed to terms. Terms which they have been in violation of virtually since they agreed to the terms in 1991.

#2 Iraq has been firing upon US and British military forces, ever since the "no fly zone" was established.

#3 Iraq attempted to assasinate a former American President.

#4 Iraq has repeatedly called for Americans to be killed where ever they are found through out the world.

Any one of the reasons outlined above is a legitimate reason to resume military action against Iraq.


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Now, further assuming, that all nations have a right to sovereignty, you would assume that North Korea and Iraq have right to develop nuclear weapons. But USA is threatening these countries because of their (possible) nuclear weapons. Thus, we have


1. USA is threatening North Korea
2. North Korea believe that the USA threat is a threat against North Korea sovereignty
3. North Korea has a right for "preventive" terrorist attacks against USA

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#1 The war is not over in Korea. There was an agreement to a cease fire (a truce).

#2 North Korea has repeatedly violated the terms of the truce over the past 49 years. There have been military incursions by the North into the South. There have been military skirmishes fought, with loss of life on both sides (including the loss of American lives), multiple times,

#3 North Korea has an oppressive dicatator, that many of the worlds leaders believe to be certifiably insane.

#4 North Korea violated a treaty that it made with the USA as regards the persuit of Nuclear Weapons. Because of the treaty the USA provided them with aid.

Any one of the reasons outlined above is a legitimate reason to contain North Korea and its military capabilities.
You speak of "rights" which is an abstract term and is open to subjective definition. The fact is, this is not a perfect world, and idealism is not alive and well, and I suspect that it never will be. Any country has the "right" to act as it chooses to. Any country has the "right" to respond to another countries actions as it chooses to. In the real world it pretty much boils down to "might makes right". Countries play by the "golden rule", the "man with the gold makes the rule". Grow up, and learn to accept the world as it is, not as you would prefer it to be. I will repeat idealism is not alive and well.

theking 10-22-2002 10:02 AM

I don't know if you read this post or not Mika so I am bumping it.

ADL Colin 10-22-2002 10:09 AM

Why is this a new thread? Isn't this going on elsewhere?

chodadog 10-22-2002 10:11 AM

Is there any particular reason this message couldn't have been posted in the relevant thread?

theking 10-22-2002 10:21 AM

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Originally posted by chodadog
Is there any particular reason this message couldn't have been posted in the relevant thread?
It was. But I don't know if Mika read it. Sometimes when a thread gets long and off topic a person does not take the time to read each post. I wanted to give Mika the opportunity to respond if he so chooses. Anything else kid?

theking 10-22-2002 10:21 AM

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Originally posted by Colin
Why is this a new thread? Isn't this going on elsewhere?
Read above post.

chodadog 10-22-2002 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by theking


It was. But I don't know if Mika read it. Sometimes when a thread gets long and off topic a person does not take the time to read each post. I wanted to give Mika the opportunity to respond if he so chooses. Anything else kid?

I don't see him replying to this thread either. Noticing a pattern.... err.. dad?

Amputate Your Head 10-22-2002 08:05 PM

Mika:

http://www.opticalamplitude.com/port...rds02-mika.jpg


I think that explains it... :glugglug

[Labret] 10-22-2002 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
Mika:

http://www.opticalamplitude.com/port...rds02-mika.jpg


I think that explains it... :glugglug

Mika is a bear.

mika 10-22-2002 08:23 PM

Fuck fuck. Hilarious! Who saved those damn cards ? :)
theking, I did reply in another thread

mika 10-22-2002 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
Mika:

http://www.opticalamplitude.com/port...rds02-mika.jpg


I think that explains it... :glugglug

Hey Amp this is a poor joke if you don't post the whole series = 2 pics hehe :1orglaugh

Amputate Your Head 10-22-2002 08:28 PM

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Originally posted by mika


Hey Amp this is a poor joke if you don't post the whole series = 2 pics hehe :1orglaugh

it's linked to the pic in my post bro..... click it.... :winkwink:

Bree 10-22-2002 08:28 PM

THAT is a really awful picture....

:throwup

mika 10-22-2002 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head

it's linked to the pic in my post bro..... click it.... :winkwink:

oh yeah. I gotta read the surfing 101 :) hehe

dirtyone 10-22-2002 08:46 PM

oh I want one of those :winkwink:

Honeyslut 10-22-2002 09:11 PM

Check out the 2001 of quiet.. hubba hubba :Graucho

Pipecrew 10-22-2002 09:43 PM

i remember when pathfinder use to do these very things

Honeyslut 10-22-2002 10:50 PM

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Originally posted by Pipecrew
i remember when pathfinder use to do these very things
sshhhhh

He's pretending to be 44 so he can hit on me..

:Graucho

redshift 10-22-2002 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by theking
I don't know if you read this post or not Mika so I am bumping it.

hahahaha mika is to worried about cock rot

Honeyslut 10-22-2002 10:56 PM

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Originally posted by redshift



hahahaha mika is to worried about cock rot

Mika is researching herpes


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