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TheLegacy 06-30-2008 08:03 AM

Political Correctness has gone too far
 
http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_24317.aspx

There's political correctness and then there's what happened in a school in a place called Lund, Sweden last week. And it just might make you wonder how far is too far.

School officials have confiscated the party invitations an 8-year-old boy was handing out to his classmates. Why would they do such a thing?

The reason is that he failed to invite two of the kids in his class, and authorities there claim there are specific rules against discrimination that they're not allowed to break. So they ordered the lad to stop doling them out on campus.

The youngster's father is outraged by the red tape, explaining his son didn't include the pair because one bullied him and the other excluded him from his own recent birthday party.

The mad dad has filed a complaint with local officials, complaining the school has taken things too far. "My son has taken it very hard," he told a local newspaper. "It's like taking someone's mail."

The ombudsman's decision about what to do on the issue will be made before September 8th - although there's no word on whether that's before or after the kid's actual birthday

TyroneGoldberg 06-30-2008 08:06 AM

haha. I agree. The world is trying to make everyone like each other, it's not possible. It just make poeople hate each other more. Maybe this is the GREAT plan.

StuartD 06-30-2008 08:10 AM

Your #1 freedom is freedom of choice... unless you exclude someone, then we choose for you.

TheLegacy 06-30-2008 08:12 AM

I can honestly see the day when a ugly girl sues and charges a guy with something all because he hit on a hot chick beside her and ignored her completely thereby hurting her feelings

pornguy 06-30-2008 08:14 AM

What a fucking joke.

Tom_PM 06-30-2008 08:23 AM

Terrible. Just FUBAR.

Public schools are just churning out the fucked up children and you are paying for it. Your tax dollars at work.

When I was a little tyke, not everyone got valentines on valentines days. There were always some crying kid who got zero, while some popular kid got 30. Tough shit, welcome to life on the planet earth.

Rochard 06-30-2008 08:27 AM

Those Europeans..... You never know what's next with them!

testpie 06-30-2008 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLegacy (Post 14393572)
http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_24317.aspx

There's political correctness and then there's what happened in a school in a place called Lund, Sweden last week. And it just might make you wonder how far is too far.

School officials have confiscated the party invitations an 8-year-old boy was handing out to his classmates. Why would they do such a thing?

The reason is that he failed to invite two of the kids in his class, and authorities there claim there are specific rules against discrimination that they're not allowed to break. So they ordered the lad to stop doling them out on campus.

The youngster's father is outraged by the red tape, explaining his son didn't include the pair because one bullied him and the other excluded him from his own recent birthday party.

The mad dad has filed a complaint with local officials, complaining the school has taken things too far. "My son has taken it very hard," he told a local newspaper. "It's like taking someone's mail."

The ombudsman's decision about what to do on the issue will be made before September 8th - although there's no word on whether that's before or after the kid's actual birthday

Dear Sweden,

Congratuwelldone - you've just won a year's supply of FAIL

Faithfully,
The rest of the world xx

Tom_PM 06-30-2008 08:39 AM

I dunno how harsh I'd be on Swedish schools... When you consider that Maine has a school where they give girls as young as 11 birth control pills if she asks. Maine state law prevents them from informing parents as well. So yes indeed, your 11 year old baby in Maine, USA could be on the pill and you not know it. If she grows a beard, search her room lol.

TheLegacy 06-30-2008 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by testpie (Post 14393699)
Dear Sweden,

Congratuwelldone - you've just won a year's supply of FAIL

Faithfully,
The rest of the world xx

Sadly, we are all not that far off from them. Sure Canada is next since they pander to just about every minority crying 'wolf'

xmas13 06-30-2008 09:33 AM

We have two rights in "democracies": 1) remain silent and 2) pay taxes. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

AmateurFlix 06-30-2008 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 14393720)
I dunno how harsh I'd be on Swedish schools... When you consider that Maine has a school where they give girls as young as 11 birth control pills if she asks. Maine state law prevents them from informing parents as well. So yes indeed, your 11 year old baby in Maine, USA could be on the pill and you not know it. If she grows a beard, search her room lol.

while that does strike me as being pretty fucked up, the idea of someone's 11 year old child being pregnant strikes me as being far more fucked up.

although I do think the parents should be at the very least informed about any medical decisions being made for their child :2 cents:

...on a side note, does anyone think home-schooling is going to be less popular in the coming years?

Scott McD 06-30-2008 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLegacy (Post 14393572)
http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_24317.aspx

School officials have confiscated the party invitations an 8-year-old boy was handing out to his classmates.
The reason is that he failed to invite two of the kids in his class

The youngster's father is outraged by the red tape, explaining his son didn't include the pair because one bullied him and the other excluded him from his own recent birthday party.

That's a disgrace !! :disgust

tranza 06-30-2008 09:53 AM

I totaly agree!

Sid70 06-30-2008 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 14393681)
Those Europeans..... You never know what's next with them!

Cmon, i was thinking RObert was gonna tell an american story, but this sounds insane, too insane, next to madness, more its a total madness!

Tom_PM 06-30-2008 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmateurFlix (Post 14393927)
while that does strike me as being pretty fucked up, the idea of someone's 11 year old child being pregnant strikes me as being far more fucked up.

although I do think the parents should be at the very least informed about any medical decisions being made for their child :2 cents:

...on a side note, does anyone think home-schooling is going to be less popular in the coming years?

Yeah me too, although I've never known an 11 year old pregnant, I know that it happens somewhere, sometime. Of course it's just a side comment, it doesnt get to the meat of the matter which is proper parenting in the first place. Schools are the pseudo-parent more and more. Wards of the State.
Maine state law specifically prohibits them from telling the parents however. That'd be enough for me to move if I had a young child. Pretty simple.

On home schooling, I think these sorts of insane school practices that we speak about are driving more and more people to home school. HOWEVER, laws are being passed in many states in the US now that declare you must have a teaching degree in order to home school. Most states already require quarterly and annual reports and testing results. And there's been no big story about how home schooled kids are failing. Besides which, if you home school, the public school still gets their taxes from you. Why do they want to make it harder to home school?

testpie 06-30-2008 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 14394053)
Why do they want to make it harder to home school?

I think it's because of the lack of social interaction that home schooled kids have; there's a lot more that you learn in school than just academic matter.

The Duck 06-30-2008 10:26 AM

I live very close to that city and its sweden in a nutshell!

TyroneGoldberg 06-30-2008 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by testpie (Post 14394078)
I think it's because of the lack of social interaction that home schooled kids have; there's a lot more that you learn in school than just academic matter.


Say if the whole community home school, then all the kids can interact. If given the choice my kids would be home schooled

testpie 06-30-2008 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TyroneGoldberg (Post 14394264)
Say if the whole community home school, then all the kids can interact. If given the choice my kids would be home schooled

That's a big "if", and they need to be able to interact without supervision - as happens at times in schools - so that they can learn the important social skills and so on that will enable them to develop into adults.

I'm all for home schooling, providing the parents/tutors used know what they are on about and that certain subjects aren't censored for various reasons (i'm no big fan of Catholic schools either, before someone comes in to criticise), and that the children who are being homeschooled somehow get to make friends with others and interact with them in something akin to the same way they would in a state school (i.e. not just a scheduled 5 minute playtime per day).

xmas13 06-30-2008 11:34 AM

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xmas13 06-30-2008 11:38 AM

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AmateurFlix 06-30-2008 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 14394053)
On home schooling, I think these sorts of insane school practices that we speak about are driving more and more people to home school. HOWEVER, laws are being passed in many states in the US now that declare you must have a teaching degree in order to home school. Most states already require quarterly and annual reports and testing results. And there's been no big story about how home schooled kids are failing. Besides which, if you home school, the public school still gets their taxes from you. Why do they want to make it harder to home school?

I haven't really looked into the matter other than very topically, however there is a very big difference between the education I received in a public school and what this next generation is currently receiving, and it is not good. Those dictating the curriculum seem to have their own agendas in regards to how they present information.

As an example, I read an interview with several apparently successful, reasonably educated "Gen Y'rs" (I'm of the Generation X crowd) and the subject of Thomas Jefferson came up. For those of you outside the USA, this is one of the "founding fathers" of our country, and has always been portrayed (to the best of my knowledge) as one of the most important historical figures for the last 200+ years. Compare him to, for instance, an early King or founder of your country, in order to understand his relevance to our country.

If you asked someone from my generation about Thomas Jefferson, you'd get varying replies about the American Revolution, our Declaration of Independence, his philosophy of law that shaped our government, and other matters of substance.

The Gen Y'rs they interviewed, mentioned that he was "some guy who had illegitimate children with slaves".

Now I don't know if they got this slant on a historical figure from TMZ(etc) or from school, but it sure didn't seem like they picked up much knowledge about the man's accomplishments via traditional educational methods, if that was all they had to say about him. Other people I've spoken with who do have kids in school, have confirmed to me that they seem to be teaching less and less about our own history.

Ask yourself, what purpose does it serve to create generation(s) of people without a firm grasp of how our country came to be, and why our government functions in the manner that it does? Why is not only ignorance of these matters being pushed in our supposed "educational system", but at the same time they seek to chip away at what can only be described as American heroes? What purpose does it serve to discredit our heroes in such a manner?

It seems to me that through either willful ignorance or some manner of plan, those responsible for educating the next generation are trying to put their own slant on our country's history and traditions, and that to me is very disturbing :2 cents:

stickyfingerz 06-30-2008 11:42 AM

Political correctness can Suck Ma Balls!!

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g2...r/superbad.jpg

Sid70 06-30-2008 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xmas13 (Post 14394462)

looks like Big_D back in his school days, no? LOL

Tom_PM 06-30-2008 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by testpie (Post 14394078)
I think it's because of the lack of social interaction that home schooled kids have; there's a lot more that you learn in school than just academic matter.

I simply question the premise that it's wiser/better for your children to interact socially in a public school setting vs. any multitude of social settings chosen by parents. So for me, even if you're right, you may still be wrong. :)

Of course you are right in that people remember for all of their lives the trauma's, trials and tribulations of their school years. Shit I could type a book about my own memories of kindegarten through high school, and not one of those memories involves a formula or date in history. And they're not exactly what ya might call "fond" memories either, lol.


edit: also, of course there is no direct evidence that a home schooled child has "less" or "worse" social interaction. The only thing one could say the evidence shows is they dont have a "public school" social interaction because it's self evident.

Michaelious 06-30-2008 11:55 AM

You really shouldn't stop kids choosing who to play with

Ayla_SquareTurtle 06-30-2008 12:02 PM

There are schools right here in the US where kids aren't allowed to pass out invitations for anything at school unless the whole class is invited so this isn't strictly a European thing.

_Richard_ 06-30-2008 12:07 PM

"The youngster's father is outraged by the red tape, explaining his son didn't include the pair because one bullied him and the other excluded him from his own recent birthday party. "

bahahahaha

Wskee 06-30-2008 12:22 PM

I think you're all just mad that you weren't invited.

jalami 06-30-2008 01:34 PM

When I was in school I would have been one of those 2 kids

testpie 06-30-2008 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SBR Richard (Post 14394593)
"The youngster's father is outraged by the red tape, explaining his son didn't include the pair because one bullied him and the other excluded him from his own recent birthday party. "

bahahahaha

Come to think of it, with such a politically correct blanket policy, how did it come to be that "...the other excluded him from his own recent birthday party"? Wouldn't that show the school giving the other kid special treatment by allowing him to discriminate, which in itself is an act of discrimination by the school?


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