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Just Mike 06-26-2008 05:51 PM

PORN ACTING WORKSHOPS --- looks like another scammer pops up
 
http://www.xbiz.com/news/95685

what is with these weirdos in our business. In my opinion, this guy appears to have no credible experience as an acting instructor ...yet he touts all these accolades and accomplishments (Which are dubious at best) then he charges these knuckle head porn stars $50

C'mon...this is why we have such a bad image in mainstream,


thoughts?

tigermtb 06-26-2008 06:53 PM

Pornstars have the best acting skills, ever.

payd2purv 06-26-2008 07:13 PM

sounds ok to me.. it's just a workshop.. it's not like he's telling girls he's going to make them stars...

Quote:

Bartholet has years of experience in acting and directing in the mainstream industry, and acts in many adult features. He recently completed filming on X Play and Adam & Eve’s production of “Not Bewitched XXX” and X Play and Hustler’s “This Ain’t the Partridge Family XXX.”

Bartholet has received several acting awards and nominations and has performed in various stage productions from coast to coast, as well as television and films, and performed sketch comedy at The Comedy Store

PamiebDVD 06-26-2008 07:16 PM

pulled him up on imdb....hmmmmm

Ron Bennett 06-26-2008 07:17 PM

What's the website address? ...

$50 isn't that bad compared to the many dubious training programs I see advertised on infomercials, etc that often cost much more.

While on the topic of adult actors, taking offers for AdultActor.com / AdultActors.com ... any $x,xxx offer likely gets it done today. [email protected]

Ron

Some Guy 06-26-2008 07:21 PM

I don't have any problem with it. Hell, some of these porn actors and actress could use a few lessons. $50.00 isn't that bad, either. It's not like he's promising to turn them into Oscar caliber performers.

Just Mike 06-26-2008 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PamiebDVD (Post 14382161)
pulled him up on imdb....hmmmmm

Hahaha....

good find Pamela. Great acting credentials :)

I know some of you see nothing wrong but first let's step back...this guy is claiming he has alot of mainstream experience...so it's implied he knows what he's doing. Second, he's offering acting classes for compensation (Albeit little money) with the intention of what? Teaching them to act, getting money in his pocket, brag that he's a director/ actor, hooking up with porn chicks or ????

I just have a problem with what I perceive to be a sketchy individual trying to make $$$ off the backs of naive and ill informed porn people.

I don't see any service he's providing to be honest...doesn't appear this guy has any classical training or an MFA degree in theatrical arts. Still trying to figure out what the heck he's gonna teach them. LOL


anyway thats my 2 cents

Some Guy 06-26-2008 08:05 PM

He's just a capitalist trying to make a buck. Good for him. If these porn stars are stupid enough to buy into his gimmick, then it's their fault, not his.

:2 cents:

ashleyfires 06-26-2008 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Some Guy (Post 14382361)
He's just a capitalist trying to make a buck. Good for him. If these porn stars are stupid enough to buy into his gimmick, then it's their fault, not his.

:2 cents:

And a media whore! And not in a good way! He has done this "workshop" a few times now. I don't know anyone that has gone to it yet but as you said, if they are stupid enought to buy into it then...

"Bartholet has a degree from Los Angeles Valley College, and has received several acting awards and nominations from his many years on stage."
http://www.********.com/read.php?ID=28758


Now I am sure Los Angeles Valley College is a fine CC but known for their Drama Program they are not! And by dregree is that an AA or just a certificate like LACC has? Awards? LA Weekly, Drama Circle, Back Stage West, or Ovation? That's it for legitment Theatre awards in LA. And he has none of those. He hasn't even won an AVN!!! And you can buy those!

and there is my :2 cents:

BusterBunny 06-26-2008 11:05 PM

:2 cents:

http://www.hotflick.net/flicks/2000_..._It_On_416.jpg

tony286 06-26-2008 11:06 PM

50 bucks isnt a scam to me.

Persius 06-26-2008 11:33 PM

hmm sounds like a joke

DWB 06-26-2008 11:43 PM

I dont even need to read the story. Anyone who would pay for PORN ACTING LESSONS, is as dumb as the lessons sound.

If you're not sure how to get fucked or fuck, and have never watched a porno, then class isn't going to help you.

Zorgman 06-27-2008 12:06 AM

Good way to find new models I guess.

Some Guy 06-27-2008 12:28 AM

This is America. The country was founded on people making money off of stupid people. "Smoke these, they're healthy, we swear."

I personally wouldn't take lessons from some random dude who's name, at first glance, reads like "butthole." I'd be calling him Mr. Buttholet the entire time.

:winkwink:

Axzar 06-27-2008 01:00 AM

He is a knucklehead for only charging $50. I think he may sell more classes at $249.

silver 06-27-2008 02:50 AM

He just wants to bang some hoe's and make a little gas money!
Cant blame him. :thumbsup

After Shock Media 06-27-2008 03:07 AM

Shit I think most women are born with the talent of faking orgasms. No need to pay for that shit.

Now I would love to hear his take on getting an interracial DP while on a staircase standing on one leg wearing 6 inch heels, while maintaining both a face that screams pleasure and showing serious desire in her eyes.

Then next he can give lessons on the proper reaction for taking a facial.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-27-2008 03:35 AM

Sounds like a good idea:)

Thats pretty clever!

v4 media 06-27-2008 06:26 AM

Hows his 'O face'

Slick 06-27-2008 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PamiebDVD (Post 14382161)
pulled him up on imdb....hmmmmm

ROFL, I get a kick outta his last big part

Safety First: The Rise of Women! (2008) .... Man stabbed by pen

Ha ha ha, classic.

I wonder how much of a letdown that'd be thinking you have a big part in a movie, then you just get stabbed by a pen, not even getting a name for your character in the movie.

tranza 06-27-2008 07:31 AM

I think it is a nice idea...

carol.prime 06-27-2008 08:09 AM

cool idea. :thumbsup

JamesK 06-27-2008 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slick (Post 14383691)
ROFL, I get a kick outta his last big part

Safety First: The Rise of Women! (2008) .... Man stabbed by pen

Ha ha ha, classic.

I wonder how much of a letdown that'd be thinking you have a big part in a movie, then you just get stabbed by a pen, not even getting a name for your character in the movie.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

pornlaw 06-27-2008 08:17 AM

I know James and this isnt a rip-off. While I cant say he's got great acting skills, actually he over acts on a lot of sets. He has been in numerous porn movies. He has worked with Will Ryder on a bunch of his satire spoofs.

The reason why he is doing this is basically because most performers in the biz today cant act. And for some of the big budget movies - like Not the Bradys XXX, they need to be able to hit marks and lines.

I was on set on the next Bradys spoof and literally I watched porn performer after porn performer fuck up lines and shots. It slows production and raises costs.

I wish him luck.

seeric 06-27-2008 10:01 AM

Hi mike!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

uno 06-27-2008 11:02 AM

I don't see the big deal.

Bugbee 06-27-2008 11:05 AM

Mike let us know how the class is after you go!!!

Agent 488 06-27-2008 11:09 AM

"man stabbed by pen" - i loved that guy!

Just Mike 06-27-2008 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugbee (Post 14384583)
Mike let us know how the class is after you go!!!


I signed your ass up to come with me.

RevSand 06-27-2008 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ashleyfires (Post 14382766)
And a media whore! And not in a good way! He has done this "workshop" a few times now. I don't know anyone that has gone to it yet but as you said, if they are stupid enought to buy into it then...

"Bartholet has a degree from Los Angeles Valley College, and has received several acting awards and nominations from his many years on stage."
http://www.********.com/read.php?ID=28758


Now I am sure Los Angeles Valley College is a fine CC but known for their Drama Program they are not! And by dregree is that an AA or just a certificate like LACC has? Awards? LA Weekly, Drama Circle, Back Stage West, or Ovation? That's it for legitment Theatre awards in LA. And he has none of those. He hasn't even won an AVN!!! And you can buy those!

and there is my :2 cents:


Tell it like it is sister!!!

Once you spend just a couple mins with the guy he can tell you just how great he is..

Ask him how at his age he still thinks he can get away with leather pants still also...

GrouchyAdmin 06-27-2008 05:47 PM

I give programming acting lessons. You can sit there and act like you're programming.

Paul Markham 06-27-2008 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zorgman (Post 14382947)
Good way to find new models I guess.

That's what I was thinking. It's a scam that's used to get girls to hand over money to be fashion models and pick up the 1 in 1000 who will make it.

This is all you can teach a porn actor.

BE YOURSELF AND BE REAL.

That's it. It takes years of studying and real talent to be an actor. No way he will teach them anything of any use for $50.

Paul Markham 06-27-2008 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornlaw (Post 14383943)
The reason why he is doing this is basically because most performers in the biz today cant act. And for some of the big budget movies - like Not the Bradys XXX, they need to be able to hit marks and lines.

The reason most performers can't act is most directors don't take the time to teach them, some don't know how to as well.

Acting is a profession that demands respect. It takes a long time to learn it and to think a person is going to walk in off the streets and perform in a porn movie with any degree of acting skills is ludicrous. In general todays porn actors have never been worse. The reasons are simple.

People picking up a camera and thinking they're pornographers. How can a performer learn how to perform in a porn film if the person directing does not have a clue what porn is?

How can a performer learn how to perform in a porn film if the person directing does not have the time and money to teach the performer?

Being a porn performer is either very simple or very hard, if not impossible. It requires a lot of truth, a little bit of "HAM" and some good direction. Plus a brain and integrity.

Go into a porn shoot expecting to have a good time, it will be a tough day but you're getting a lot of money for it. You will have an orgasm, if not a lot, and you will go home with a lot of money. You will be invited back to do it all again very soon because you're better than the others around you. No one is paying to look at your body, they want to see you.

Put a little bit of yourself into every scene.

Porn RADA is now finished, the rest is experience.

baddog 06-27-2008 11:00 PM

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0058654/resume

Seems to have some experience.

Cherry7 06-28-2008 04:36 AM

All this fuss over $50...The situation in the States must be grim!

Anyone who wants to raise standards rather than lower them should be supported...

And for $50 just some simple ideas about how films are made and some networking would be a good day...


What we would like to see is how performers can put some erotic content into the videos. Learn to look at each other, touch, create tension...

Porn is rubbish and we need people to learn what is erotic...


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