do you know shit about electricity???
 

got a new oven and have to connect the cable - it has a wiring diagram that has L N and PE

what is L, what is N, and what is PE? I'm guessing these are the three wires that have to be connected but which is which?????

nothing in the manual, it's driving me nuts!!!!

I dont mess with electricity , Ii am always afraid ill kill myself or something

What are the colors? White, Black and Red?

Anyways, check this site out - Stove wiring stuff

be careful! ;)

L is "Live", N is "Neutral", and PE is "Protective Earth"

In the figure below, two rectangle ones are L and N (connect in any order), and round or semi-round is PE.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...Type_B_USA.jpg

Assuming its a 3-pin plug. For 2-pin, just connect L and N (in any order) and leave PE alone.

no wires sticking out so no colors, I'm chekcing out the site

its a 2 pin plug but they also have 3 wires, so I guess the earth cable goes to PE and L and N to their places, I'll do some more reading, then unplug everything in my flat, connect the oven, turn it on, and see how it goes ;)

Im a total noob at stuff like that!

If you can post the pics of wires, plug and wall socket .. I will be able to help you even better. It would save the potential damage.

Be careful...some really bad things can happen when you try to do something you don't know about eletricity.

I only know about automotive electrical, sorry.

OK, I'll need a minute

If memory serves me correctly. White is L. Black is N and PE is green.

ok, the plug - the brown went to the left pin, the blue to the right pin, and the yellow/green went to the middle (99% sure this is the earth thingy)

http://www.6dicksunder.com/z3/plug.jpg

this is the wiring diagram (mine 220V so the one on the left) - shitty pic no idea hot to take from that close:

http://www.6dicksunder.com/z3/sch.jpg

thinking of diong this (this is where the cables should go), L (blue) and N(brown) can be swithced of course, PE - the yellow/green:

http://www.6dicksunder.com/z3/oven.jpg

does it look right?

yeah, this is right. If you using 2-pin plug, you can leave yellow/green unused.

Even though pic is not clear, but what you are doing is perfectly alright. Go ahead, nothing bad gonna happen.

you should be ok if you connect ground to ground. that diagram was shitty can't tell what is what. the worse thing that'll happen is you popping the breaker if wired wrong.

neutral is almost always on the same side as the ground.. are you in the US?

I'm waiting for the outcome. I hope everything goes alright.

yep.. it can kill you(-:

I would hire someone who does know.

hollyshit mon... takin' random advice from GFYers will get your house blown out of the map......

Electricity won't hurt you, just plug it in and see if it works!

That oven is not user friendly...

Turn off power, connect the ground, it is part of the electrical system and it is bonded elsewhere to the neutral conductor. Never leave a ground not connected if at all possible to connect it.

The rest is correct looking at the picture of the terminal block. L= Line in this case... I guess it could be called "Live" *shrug* the key is it is the Hot Wire. The neutral connects to the other one.
Plug in appliance, and turn on breaker, test oven. Note if the ground if not properly connected the breaker may not trip as designed.

Please remember electricity can kill you dead and you get few second chances.

Best advice is to follow these instructions:
#1 Call Professional to do the work
#2 Open a Beer and wait for serviceman
#3 Watch guy do about 5 minutes of work he will stretch to 10 minutes
#4 Test the Oven
#5 Pay the man the one hour min service call
#6 Open another Beer, you got the oven hooked up and deserve it!

Oh man you guys just confused the crap outta me with this shit

All I know is this. Whether you hook it up right or wrong, that oven is gonna cook something.

Careful! :)

you wanna know what happened???? ok. I'll give you a clue ....... "da roof, da roof ......."






































nah, kidding, it worked !!!

http://www.6dicksunder.com/z3/success.jpg

special thanks to Vick and all of you guys !

hooopps, ill pass. don't have any idea.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

yah, do that ......

Congrats, still hope you connected the ground.

jesus, you were lucky - if you connected the live to the earth connection, the second you touched the unit, you would have fried.

Always ALWAYS -
Earth is green and yellow cable
Blue is neutral
any other colour is live.

Earth is always marked on a unit with a kind of uside-down pyramid made from horizontal lines, with a little stick on the to


It's true that live and neutral can be wired either way in a lug and the thing will work, but on induction hobs (and shit like washing machines that turn), for maximum life the the live of the plug should always correspond to live in the socket (usually the right-hand socket pin)

Congratulations! Good job.:thumbsup

Yeah, as you're 220V, I'm guessing you're in Euroe and that plug looks identical to the ones here in France.

One way to remember which pin in a plug is which, the earth is always the one that isn't a pin (the hole) and of the other two, look at the pins and then repeat this:
Live is on the Left as you Look at the pLug

and from that ciruit diagram you did good - you can see the earth is making a connection to the actual unit, so you know that's the earth. The one with 3 screws all interconnected is the live as it also will work if you have 3-phase supply (triphasé). And neutral has two interconnected pins as some 3phase installations use 2 neutrals too.

my advice! DON'T PLAY WITH ELECTRICITY , PAY SOMEONE TO DO THE JOB DONT BE CHEAP ! good luck >

No problem .. invoice is on the way :winkwink: :1orglaugh

I agree with most of what he said, but you really should ground it (PE). Your outlet should already be grounded (if a three pin outlet).

same shit.

Sounds scary watch out!

put the red wire on your cock and the black in your ear

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Think your confusing this with 400 Volt (3 phase) machines.

In 220 Volt DC it makes no difference on lifespan or functionality how you switch your phase and neutral

..one place you do want to get it right though is in your lamp sockets :2 cents:

damn problem solved .. I was waiting for the BBQ pix .. hair all standing on end and smoke coming from your ears .. jk .. :)

Congrats! I wouldn't have done it, I would have ended up toast.

Wrong.

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All this oven talk is making me hot and bothered.

http://www.6dicksunder.com/z3/plug.jpg

your stove has a 2-pin plug? that's fucking nuts!

go get a proper 3-pin.. you're going to want that ground