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RayVega 06-24-2008 07:00 AM

Hacking question...hacking gurus step inside.
 
Ok, check this out.
our computer system is being hacked. It is a password protected area for brokers (mainstream) It appears that somone is hitting the response form and since they are not under a brokers ID, it is trying to send the response to a non existent broker.

Am I correct about this, and how should I stop it? Advice anyone?

LOG:
[23/JUNE/2008 01:30:19] Attempt to deliver to unknown recipient </script>, from <[email protected]>, IP address 127.0.0.1
[23/JUNE/2008 01:30:22] Attempt to deliver to unknown recipient </script>, from <[email protected]>, IP address 127.0.0.1
[23/JUNE/2008 01:30:28] Attempt to deliver to unknown recipient </script>, from <[email protected]>, IP address 127.0.0.1
[23/JUNE/2008 01:30:30] Attempt to deliver to unknown recipient </script>, from <[email protected]>, IP address 127.0.0.1
[23/JUNE/2008 01:30:34] Attempt to deliver to unknown recipient </script>, from <[email protected]>, IP address 127.0.0.1
[23/JUNE/2008 01:30:36] Attempt to deliver to unknown recipient </script>, from <[email protected]>, IP address 127.0.0.1

HorseShit 06-24-2008 07:07 AM

uh that doesn't look like a hack attempt

Dirty F 06-24-2008 07:11 AM

Well you got his IP address.
127.0.0.1 <--- very evil, used by lots of hackers.
Ask your host to block 127.0.0.1

ladida 06-24-2008 07:24 AM

Your script is attacking you. Uber eleet hacking is going on

Iron Fist 06-24-2008 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ladida (Post 14369223)
Your script is attacking you. Uber eleet hacking is going on

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

DamianJ 06-24-2008 07:43 AM

There's no place like 127.0.0.1

Chris 06-24-2008 07:45 AM

i cant hack my way out of a paper bag and to me that looks like your computer is doing it

V_RocKs 06-24-2008 08:06 AM

Would need a link to your form...

Jens Van Assterdam 06-24-2008 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 14369288)
There's no place like 127.0.0.1

no shit :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Phoenix 06-24-2008 08:12 AM

hello fbi....i just wanted to say hello

StuartD 06-24-2008 08:13 AM

http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/generic/5d6a/?cpg=ab

RayVega 06-24-2008 08:30 AM

Thanks guys. So there is a possibility that it is just a bug in the form submission script and not a hack at all? This shit is driving me nuts...every few days the server goes down and we lose the last few days of data.

woj 06-24-2008 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 14369288)
There's no place like 127.0.0.1

:thumbsup:1orglaugh

RayVega 06-24-2008 09:43 AM

bump bump

StuartD 06-24-2008 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RayVega (Post 14369463)
Thanks guys. So there is a possibility that it is just a bug in the form submission script and not a hack at all? This shit is driving me nuts...every few days the server goes down and we lose the last few days of data.

I'd start checking your automated scripts. Anything that is supposed to run on it's own.

2MuchMark 06-24-2008 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RayVega (Post 14369021)
Ok, check this out.
our computer system is being hacked. It is a password protected area for brokers (mainstream) It appears that somone is hitting the response form and since they are not under a brokers ID, it is trying to send the response to a non existent broker.

Am I correct about this, and how should I stop it? Advice anyone?

LOG:
[23/JUNE/2008 01:30:19] Attempt to deliver to unknown recipient </script>, from <[email protected]>, IP address 127.0.0.1
[23/JUNE/2008 01:30:22] Attempt to deliver to unknown recipient </script>, from <[email protected]>, IP address 127.0.0.1
[23/JUNE/2008 01:30:28] Attempt to deliver to unknown recipient </script>, from <[email protected]>, IP address 127.0.0.1
[23/JUNE/2008 01:30:30] Attempt to deliver to unknown recipient </script>, from <[email protected]>, IP address 127.0.0.1
[23/JUNE/2008 01:30:34] Attempt to deliver to unknown recipient </script>, from <[email protected]>, IP address 127.0.0.1
[23/JUNE/2008 01:30:36] Attempt to deliver to unknown recipient </script>, from <[email protected]>, IP address 127.0.0.1

Hi Ray -

You're not being hacked.

The IP Address 127.0.0.1 is your local machine that is running this script. (hence the "home" jokes). The messages above are trying to tell you that This Local Machine cannot send the message because the recipient is unknown. (Wrong email address).

That's all - no hackers are doing anything nasty to you.

Cheers!

munki 06-24-2008 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 14369288)
There's no place like 127.0.0.1

I still want that shirt...

sumphatpimp 06-24-2008 10:13 AM

you should do a whois on that 127.0.0.1 and see where he lives then go over his place and fuck his ass up good. he fucked with me a few years ago but I found him and beat the living shit out of him with baseball bat. I fucked him up good, he went to the hospital and all.
now this fucker at 192.1683.0.3 is fucking with me, guess I will have to go over his place and straighten out that sonuvabitch too!
I am telling you. being a webmaster ain't easy!

RayVega 06-24-2008 10:27 AM

Very funny guys...I am very well aware that 127.0.0.1 is the local machine. The problem is that someone or something is triggering it to attempt to send an email every few minutes and in some cases several times a second. This is not a regular user trying to use the form improperly causing an error message, this is either a crazy loop, DOS attack, or attempt to use the form to spam. The attempts are crashing the system.

The way the scripts were designed, the main script(script one) passes info to script two to send the form results to several people...therefore my thoughts on this could be that someone (or a bot they use) are trying to use script number two to send out email to targets so it is untraceable to them, they are using script number two to attempt a DOS attack on someone, or it's just a bug that loops causing the scripting engine to blow up.

problem is that I am not familiar enough with ASP (or the windows web server platform). If the script was in PERL or PHP on a linux box for example, the issue would be resolved already.

RayVega 06-24-2008 12:54 PM

Anyone recommend somone to go in and fix it (without spending a fortune)? I don't have the time to debug it.

sumphatpimp 06-24-2008 01:03 PM

problem is that I am not familiar enough with ASP (or the windows web server platform). If the script was in PERL or PHP on a linux box for example, the issue would be resolved already.

Ray, as a suggestion, maybe you should start a thread "Need Windows programmer" and then work from there. may get you better results.

RayVega 06-24-2008 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sumphatpimp (Post 14371067)
problem is that I am not familiar enough with ASP (or the windows web server platform). If the script was in PERL or PHP on a linux box for example, the issue would be resolved already.

Ray, as a suggestion, maybe you should start a thread "Need Windows programmer" and then work from there. may get you better results.

Yes, I'll post later when more people are online...I really wanted some opinions as to what it was (ex.whether it is an attack or a script bug). Seems that it looks like a script bug and not an attack after all..

ladida 06-24-2008 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RayVega (Post 14370085)
The way the scripts were designed, the main script(script one) passes info to script two to send the form results to several people.

DingDing..

Your scripts are attacking you man. I told you already. Get a programmer to debug that for you, and stop with hacking theories, they remind me of hollywood movies :)

psili 06-24-2008 02:40 PM

If the scripts were running, unchanged, for a period of time without issue, it could be external. If the scripts were implemented and the problem arose soon after, it's probably a script issue.

Just my $.02 on where to start debugging.

RayVega 06-24-2008 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ladida (Post 14371476)
DingDing..

Your scripts are attacking you man. I told you already. Get a programmer to debug that for you, and stop with hacking theories, they remind me of hollywood movies :)

um...yea...I think we acertained that almost right away. But it doesn't mean it's definitely what it is. Thanks for the help though.

RayVega 06-24-2008 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by psili (Post 14371559)
If the scripts were running, unchanged, for a period of time without issue, it could be external. If the scripts were implemented and the problem arose soon after, it's probably a script issue.

Just my $.02 on where to start debugging.

Well, I just took over the problem. I didn't even know it was happening until recently. IT just restored the server every time without saying anything. Aparently, it has been doing it for a long time, like once a month, but it is getting worse and worse, now it crashes twice a day.

_Richard_ 06-24-2008 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 14369288)
There's no place like 127.0.0.1

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

RayVega 06-25-2008 01:42 PM

OK well check this out...while this log file explosion is taking place, different websites show in the status bar, and these sites whois back to places like bulgaria etc.

In other words, while you are trying to go to the site, and it is hanging up trying to load, it say's in the status bar "loading www.bulgariasite.com" instead of "loading www.mysite.com". It is a different russian or bulgarian site every time and the url is registered but the site doesn't exist. Also, it is not putting my entire site into a giant iframe, I checked to see if that was the case, so how in the hell could another site name come up?

What in the hell would cause that?


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