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chaze 06-22-2008 01:38 PM

What is a fair charge for CEO consulting for a local small business?
 
A local business wants to hire me for two hours of SEO consulting. I was thinking $40 a hour since it's just consulting and I don't have to make any actual changes.

So face to face consulting to a local biz from another local biz.

Sly 06-22-2008 01:40 PM

Most people charge way more than $40 an hour... especially if you are going to their place of business. If you're comfortable with that, then go for that, but if they can afford more... demand more.

JamesK 06-22-2008 01:41 PM

$80/hour, if you're good it's well worth it for him

Jet Redux 06-22-2008 01:43 PM

what is CEO consulting?

baddog 06-22-2008 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by chaze (Post 14359990)
A local business wants to hire me for two hours of SEO consulting. I was thinking $40 a hour since it's just consulting and I don't have to make any actual changes.

Based on the value you assign to your own time, I am going to guess that $40/hour might be a little too much.

If a true SEO was consulting it would be a lot more than that.

OldSchoolJim 06-22-2008 01:50 PM

True SEO with ranks for large terms not just in adult start at $150/Hr

chaze 06-22-2008 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 14360024)
Based on the value you assign to your own time, I am going to guess that $40/hour might be a little too much.

If a true SEO was consulting it would be a lot more than that.

Ya it's not my main forta but after seeing his website he needs allot of help. plus it's a new business for DWHS so I want to give him a good price.

He is coming to my office so I don't have to travel. But he is established lawyer. maybe I will go for $50 and normally charge $80 if we do it as a regular offering.

pr0 06-22-2008 02:06 PM

$40 an hour?

you don't know much about seo then i take it?

i personally wouldn't walk into someones office for an hour for any less than $2000...& that's just to talk to them in "generalizations"

JamesK 06-22-2008 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by pr0 (Post 14360075)
$40 an hour?

you don't know much about seo then i take it?

i personally wouldn't walk into someones office for an hour for any less than $2000...& that's just to talk to them in "generalizations"

Bro, they have to pay me $10k just to START the conversation. I also charge $5 per word.

chaze 06-22-2008 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by pr0 (Post 14360075)
$40 an hour?

you don't know much about seo then i take it?

i personally wouldn't walk into someones office for an hour for any less than $2000...& that's just to talk to them in "generalizations"

Hmm, I do wonder if I charge too less then he wont take it seriously. The problem is he is a business neighbor and isn't really looking for a high end solution.

It's not really how good I am as much as what small businesses will pay and feel good about it. In his case really good considering he is neighbor business and we are a new store in this area.

woj 06-22-2008 02:15 PM

Dude, I have no idea what you are smoking, but $50/hr is nothing now a days, some electrician or plumber bills more than that per hour... and you want to bill the same for seo services?! I wouldn't go less than $200/hr in a situation like that, and that's even considered cheap for someone who has a clue about seo...

pr0 06-22-2008 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by chaze (Post 14360086)
Hmm, I do wonder if I charge too less then he wont take it seriously. The problem is he is a business neighbor and isn't really looking for a high end solution.

It's not really how good I am as much as what small businesses will pay and feel good about it. In his case really good considering he is neighbor business and we are a new store in this area.

$40 an hour isn't even enough to explain to him what seo is.

Due 06-22-2008 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by pr0 (Post 14360075)
i personally wouldn't walk into someones office for an hour for any less than $2000...& that's just to talk to them in "generalizations"

shit, I'll remove you again from the guest list for our all you can hit booze'n'hooker night we have in our OFFICE, not going to pay you for that, but I respect your choice :pimp

Herb Kornfield 06-22-2008 02:24 PM

My IT Consulting starts at $175 an hour with a 4 hour minimum for clients.

$40 an hour is gas money these days.

Due 06-22-2008 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by chaze (Post 14360043)
But he is established lawyer. maybe I will go for $50 and normally charge $80 if we do it as a regular offering.

Dont worry to much about what is fair, you will change your mind after he invoice you for legal consulting for discussing the price and contract :1orglaugh

sysk 06-22-2008 02:50 PM

40$/hr seems like a fair rate to me if all they're looking for is some basic consulting. Anyone can learn SEO easily on the web. Tons of free available info out there.

Now if you are hired to push their site on google, that's another story.

Vick! 06-22-2008 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by chaze (Post 14360086)
The problem is he is a business neighbor and isn't really looking for a high end solution.

If he is lawyer and my neighbor, i'll brief him about SEO in general and give tips for free. I'll also mention at some point that my usual rates are $xxx per hour, but since you are neighbor, I do not feel like charging for for just an hour.

Two benefits, A lawyer will start respecting you even more and could be of help in future, plus .. he will think you are top notch since you charge $500 per hr.

IMO, spending 1 hour for someone in order to help them, enhance relationship and make contacts is a good deal. People do this all the time on boards, IMs etc. pr0 tips newbies for free all the time.

:2 cents:

baddog 06-22-2008 03:13 PM

I wonder how much an hour the atty charges.

WiredGuy 06-22-2008 03:15 PM

$40/hour? Wow, that's well, really low.
WG

Z 06-22-2008 03:15 PM

tree fiddy

GrouchyAdmin 06-22-2008 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chaze (Post 14360043)
Ya it's not my main forta but after seeing his website he needs allot of help. plus it's a new business for DWHS so I want to give him a good price.

He is coming to my office so I don't have to travel. But he is established lawyer. maybe I will go for $50 and normally charge $80 if we do it as a regular offering.

You're going to feel pain on this deal. You're being too cushy and accomidating for someone who shouldn't be worth this much. You aren't a fucking Best Buy geek squad tech by day, don't act like one.

Have a meeting, create an outline, then give it to a webmonkey and/or coder to implement.

Someone wants something very simple as a one-off - I might spec it for $20 for a half an hour job, just so I get more word of mouth. It's worked pretty well, and I feel good for helping out people who just need a little assistance.

Someone who has money? Time to sit down and discuss what their needs are, and design it before implementing - you owe this to them, and to yourself, if you plan on the deal not going sour or having to be discarded, and reimplemented.

That's worth at least three hours right there (if you're competent and knowledgeable about all of the technologies you plan to utilize for the project)..

robfantasy 06-22-2008 03:18 PM

i dont pay for consulting.. i pay for results

bdld 06-22-2008 03:30 PM

thats really low. you'd only charge 40 an hour if you had someone new coming in every hr. otherwise its at least a hundred bucks.

Iron Fist 06-22-2008 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Z (Post 14360286)
tree fiddy

Generous!

Matt 26z 06-22-2008 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by sysk (Post 14360213)
40$/hr seems like a fair rate to me if all they're looking for is some basic consulting. Anyone can learn SEO easily on the web. Tons of free available info out there.

Now if you are hired to push their site on google, that's another story.

Exactly my thoughts. It's not like this lawyer is going to understand anything beyond domain keywords, title tag, use of keywords and maybe backlinks. Any webmaster can easily explain this, and most would do it for free if this lawyer poppped into any forum and asked.

Doctor Dre 06-22-2008 07:00 PM

I charge min 400 a day (6 hours or so of real consultation) for my consulting work, if you charge less, they don't take you as seriously anyways...

Doctor Dre 06-22-2008 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vick! (Post 14360240)
If he is lawyer and my neighbor, i'll brief him about SEO in general and give tips for free. I'll also mention at some point that my usual rates are $xxx per hour, but since you are neighbor, I do not feel like charging for for just an hour.

Two benefits, A lawyer will start respecting you even more and could be of help in future, plus .. he will think you are top notch since you charge $500 per hr.

IMO, spending 1 hour for someone in order to help them, enhance relationship and make contacts is a good deal. People do this all the time on boards, IMs etc. pr0 tips newbies for free all the time.

:2 cents:

That's the best solution I've heard so far in this thread if you don't want to charge him an arm

chaze 06-22-2008 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Doctor Dre (Post 14360730)
That's the best solution I've heard so far in this thread if you don't want to charge him an arm

I was going to help the basics for free, he was the one that mentioned he wanted full site evaluation and will pay for it.

Hmm, just trying to figure what to charge. I will say I usually $130 a hour but I will do it for $50 since he is our neighbor and it's a new business in the area. See how it goes. I would think this will take less then 30 minutes anyways and hopefully he will be excited enough to spread around how much it helped.

I definably think consulting and making actual changing it allot different. I wouldn't work on the site and action plan for less then $850 a year. Which boils down to about 200 a hour plus free links from some of our sites.

I will have to work on getting that up as we get more established as a local marketing service.

The funny part is I could get him more results that would pay for itself if he paid more. I just don't think he would understand the process enough to pay the right price.

The other issue is our highest ranked sites for keywords our adult related so I can show him how well we have done. :1orglaugh

Most main stream sites get a couple thousand relevant hits a day from google where our adult sites get thousands a day.

Not saying it's the best our amazing just saying I dont have anything to show our better results.

rogerrabbit00 06-22-2008 10:19 PM

OFFER SERVICE!:2 cents::thumbsup

Oracle Porn 06-22-2008 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by JamesK (Post 14360084)
Bro, they have to pay me $10k just to START the conversation. I also charge $5 per word.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

datatank 06-22-2008 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by chaze (Post 14360885)



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I wouldn't work on the site and action plan for less then $850 a year. Which boils down to about 200 a hour plus free links from some of our sites.

I would like to hire you for this package. 200 hours work and free links for $850
How can I contact you


thanks

chaze 06-23-2008 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by datatank (Post 14361135)
I would like to hire you for this package. 200 hours work and free links for $850
How can I contact you


thanks

Sure it's on our site http://www.dwhs.net/search-engine-optimization.htm

My ICQ is 249 028 685

I icq'd you as well


Thanks,

btrav04 06-23-2008 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chaze (Post 14359990)
A local business wants to hire me for two hours of SEO consulting. I was thinking $40 a hour since it's just consulting and I don't have to make any actual changes.

So face to face consulting to a local biz from another local biz.

I provide a free work up on the clients site...conversations are free. Othere than that any other work that is provided is charged.


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