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Scootermuze 10-19-2002 05:53 PM

Choker's Gallery Spots.. any luck with anyone?
 
0:40k here... :)

SpeakEasy 10-19-2002 06:13 PM

Thats what cj garbage is...

Rory 10-19-2002 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SpeakEasy
Thats what cj garbage is...
Where do you suggest buying traffic from?

Rory
:helpme

SpeakEasy 10-19-2002 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rory


Where do you suggest buying traffic from?

Rory
:helpme


I don't buy traffic so I don't know. But I would think that CJ traffic is garbage, even worse then tgp's....

CDSmith 10-19-2002 06:45 PM

Choker's paid gallery spots get traffic from a couple of hundred actual tgp's, some of whom are pretty big and well known. I'm not sure where you're getting this "CJ garbage" thing, do you know what you're talking about?


I agree that CJ traffic is crappier than most, but what has it got to do with Choker's gallery spots?

Vox 10-19-2002 06:48 PM

One persons garbage is someone elses goldmine... All I got to say is that it works for me. :thumbsup

Ramster 10-19-2002 07:18 PM

Well I did okay, more sales revenue that the cost of the traffic. Plus, I lucked out and made a sale off of the free traffic Choker was kind enough to give away 2 weeks ago. I think it was 10K or something.

It's good traffic. Let's face it, with all tgps you better be able to sell.

BVF 10-19-2002 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Scootermuze
0:40k here... :)
Like choker said, if you can't get paid with those spots, you need to go back to flipping burgers.

The first time I bought traffic from him, I got a sale within MINUTES! I mean like within 5 minutes time. And that is with a black site and he admittedly says that his black traffic isn't that good.

All I can say is that it works for me

Scootermuze 10-19-2002 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BVF


Like choker said, if you can't get paid with those spots, you need to go back to flipping burgers.

The first time I bought traffic from him, I got a sale within MINUTES! I mean like within 5 minutes time. And that is with a black site and he admittedly says that his black traffic isn't that good.

All I can say is that it works for me

I have a duplicate site that's listed on Richard's Realm.. got a few k hits from there.. and a few sales..

Nothin wrong with the site..

Choker 10-19-2002 09:06 PM

Quote:

I have a duplicate site that's listed on Richard's Realm.. got a few k hits from there.. and a few sales..
I doubt if Richard would except a gallery that abides by the rules for galleryspots.com I know he accepts galleries with the big pic on a html page, but rarely have I seen one listed there and NEVER with the big pic linked to a sponsor like I require. You keep saying "site" but are you meaning gallery? I mean this is what we are talking about, a gallery yes? Too many holes in your story here Scottermuze. If you did not get a sale from a gallery you bought 40k hits for $40, I am sorry but 40k to a gallery is really not a whole lot of traffic to a gallery but should be enough for at least one sale. Sorry for my attitude, but everytime when someone CLAIMS they made no money off a paid spot without posting the url, it turns out they are just a competitor trying to make me look bad or a newbie with a horrible and ugly site. Expierenced webmasters know it's a numbers game.

SleazyDream 10-19-2002 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rory


Where do you suggest buying traffic from?

Rory
:helpme


www.cybercatinc.com real traffic, real sites

RMG 10-19-2002 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Choker

I doubt if Richard would except a gallery that abides by the rules for galleryspots.com I know he accepts galleries with the big pic on a html page, but rarely have I seen one listed there and NEVER with the big pic linked to a sponsor like I require. You keep saying "site" but are you meaning gallery? I mean this is what we are talking about, a gallery yes? Too many holes in your story here Scottermuze. If you did not get a sale from a gallery you bought 40k hits for $40, I am sorry but 40k to a gallery is really not a whole lot of traffic to a gallery but should be enough for at least one sale. Sorry for my attitude, but everytime when someone CLAIMS they made no money off a paid spot without posting the url, it turns out they are just a competitor trying to make me look bad or a newbie with a horrible and ugly site. Expierenced webmasters know it's a numbers game.

Dont sweat it too much...everyone knows your the guy to goto for traffic ;p

SpeakEasy 10-19-2002 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream



www.cybercatinc.com real traffic, real sites

:1orglaugh

Krome 10-19-2002 09:16 PM

Choker your traffic rocks...BTW hit me up I have all that content ready for you.

Choker 10-19-2002 09:18 PM

Krome I have been waiting for your icq for weeks man, my icq is fried and I can't find anyone hardly. Icq me please, thanks man

Scootermuze 10-19-2002 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Choker

I doubt if Richard would except a gallery that abides by the rules for galleryspots.com I know he accepts galleries with the big pic on a html page, but rarely have I seen one listed there and NEVER with the big pic linked to a sponsor like I require. You keep saying "site" but are you meaning gallery? I mean this is what we are talking about, a gallery yes? Too many holes in your story here Scottermuze. If you did not get a sale from a gallery you bought 40k hits for $40, I am sorry but 40k to a gallery is really not a whole lot of traffic to a gallery but should be enough for at least one sale. Sorry for my attitude, but everytime when someone CLAIMS they made no money off a paid spot without posting the url, it turns out they are just a competitor trying to make me look bad or a newbie with a horrible and ugly site. Expierenced webmasters know it's a numbers game.

Ouch!

All I'm saying is.. I expected better results than 0 sales, as would anyone..

I said 'duplicate site' because the thumb page is a duplicate. The links to the big pics are different.. This is this site I have listed with the gallery spot, and this is the site listed with R. R.

I didn't realize that saying 'site' instead of 'gallery' put holes in a story.. All I said was that I didn't make any sales from the gallery spot listing, but made a few from R.R. ..

I didn't come in here saying that your traffic sucks or telling people not to buy from you.. I'm just saying that it didnt' work for me.. and was wondering how it was working for others..

Choker 10-19-2002 09:49 PM

I didn't mean to attack you Scottermaze, just that if you saw some of the galleries and sites that buy traffic from me, you would realize why they get no sales. When someone says they got no signups and don't post the url it throws up a red flag for me. I have had some guys get a lot of sales from CFF, but I think at this point surfers have seen their provided content a million times already. Richards traffic is better than galleryspots.com for sure, he is mostly bookmarkers and has a very loyal surfer base. Since he does not trade so much, it is possible his surfers have not been over exposed to this content. I'm really not sure on this. Your gallery is fine just could have been more aggressive, like all the text links could be links to CFF. Does CFF provide you the exact urls of where the surfer that signs up came from? I see you used the same account for both galleries. How do you know where the signups originated from?

SleazyDream 10-19-2002 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Scootermuze


Ouch!

All I'm saying is.. I expected better results than 0 sales, as would anyone..

I said 'duplicate site' because the thumb page is a duplicate. The links to the big pics are different.. This is this site I have listed with the gallery spot, and this is the site listed with R. R.

I didn't realize that saying 'site' instead of 'gallery' put holes in a story.. All I said was that I didn't make any sales from the gallery spot listing, but made a few from R.R. ..

I didn't come in here saying that your traffic sucks or telling people not to buy from you.. I'm just saying that it didnt' work for me.. and was wondering how it was working for others..

arn't those the galleries that made 200 signups a day on the hun?

Scootermuze 10-19-2002 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Choker
I didn't mean to attack you Scottermaze, just that if you saw some of the galleries and sites that buy traffic from me, you would realize why they get no sales. When someone says they got no signups and don't post the url it throws up a red flag for me. I have had some guys get a lot of sales from CFF, but I think at this point surfers have seen their provided content a million times already. Richards traffic is better than galleryspots.com for sure, he is mostly bookmarkers and has a very loyal surfer base. Since he does not trade so much, it is possible his surfers have not been over exposed to this content. I'm really not sure on this. Your gallery is fine just could have been more aggressive, like all the text links could be links to CFF. Does CFF provide you the exact urls of where the surfer that signs up came from? I see you used the same account for both galleries. How do you know where the signups originated from?
Understand the red flag thing.. I didn't see the need to post the url's before, but then I wasn't seeing it through your eyes insofar as any reasons I may have had for not posting them..

The links to cff have different affilliate id's on the two galleries..

Anyway.. all is well with me.. no harm intented.. Lots of factors involved this bidness and no guarantees.. a bit like life...

Scootermuze 10-19-2002 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream


arn't those the galleries that made 200 signups a day on the hun?

I wish.. Oohhhhh how I wish.. :)

Choker 10-19-2002 10:15 PM

No worries Scootermaze, it's all about CTR on galleries. These shitty galleries of mine like this http://www1.chickenhost.com/pics/nas.../306/index.htm
maintains a 6% CTR just from the headers and footers. And the rest of the gallery stays around 5% CTR. So this type gallery averages 11% total CTR. My ratio with Nasty Dollars from this type gallery is around 1:1600. I don't think it would be right for me to post the urls of galleries other guys are paying for that I know are making good money. Using keywords like "Free,More,Enter,Samples" ALWAYS increases CTR,and if you are using sponsor content, make the surfer KNOWS these pics are from inside the paysite.

Miss Laurie 10-20-2002 10:40 AM

I wish the gallery didn't need to be a series. Many TGP's don't require that. I guess some of the TGP's that work with Choker do : (

Juge 10-20-2002 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SpeakEasy
Thats what cj garbage is...
Huh? Where did CJ come from? It's TGP traffic.

Ace-Ace 10-20-2002 12:34 PM

I've had terrible results with it...

Theo 10-20-2002 12:40 PM

radio traffic is better than tgp traffic

Choker 10-20-2002 01:20 PM

Quote:

radio traffic is better than tgp traffic
Yep you are right. TGP traffic is just horrible. Why am I even doing this? I will follow the advice of you guys who can't convert TGP traffic and just quit now before I lose any more money. ROFLMAO

Scootermuze 10-20-2002 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Choker

Yep you are right. TGP traffic is just horrible. Why am I even doing this? I will follow the advice of you guys who can't convert TGP traffic and just quit now before I lose any more money. ROFLMAO

Nahh.. you can't be blamed for it.. All you can do is send the traffic.. what happens after it's sent is pretty well up to the galleries and how they're presented.. and who the surfers are..

I'd rather get your recommendations and try again with other galleries..
One may soar where another may flop..
Same gallery on a different day could make a big difference..

I'm not the ball player that looks at his glove when he misses the ball..

I'm just an old used newspaper in the birdcage o' life.. :)

mrthumbs 10-20-2002 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CDSmith
Choker's paid gallery spots get traffic from a couple of hundred actual tgp's, some of whom are pretty big and well known. I'm not sure where you're getting this "CJ garbage" thing, do you know what you're talking about?

And how does Choker get his trafffic from those 'actual tgp's'?

Let me guess: blind traffic..

Now tell me: what's the difference between CJ traffic and
'actual tgp's' sending out blind traffic?

Choker 10-20-2002 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mrthumbs


And how does Choker get his trafffic from those 'actual tgp's'?

Let me guess: blind traffic..

Now tell me: what's the difference between CJ traffic and
'actual tgp's' sending out blind traffic?

Another post from another idiot who has no idea what he is talking about. Mr Thumbs let me know when you catch up with the others and actually know what is being discussed here. Just gotta open your mouth about things you have no idea about, don't you??

Libertine 10-20-2002 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mrthumbs


And how does Choker get his trafffic from those 'actual tgp's'?

Let me guess: blind traffic..

Now tell me: what's the difference between CJ traffic and
'actual tgp's' sending out blind traffic?

If a surfer clicks to see a gallery, and he sees a gallery, how exactly is that blind traffic???

Choker 10-20-2002 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by punkworld


If a surfer clicks to see a gallery, and he sees a gallery, how exactly is that blind traffic???

Punkworld it's not blind. There are just a lot of idiots that are fast to jump on the bashing bandwagon when they read about something they can't understand. Galleryspots.com is basically a pool of over 300 TGPs that are selling gallery spots together. I just coordinate it all.

Satan 10-20-2002 03:28 PM

haha I just purchased a gallery spot 10mins ago.. I have been sent 882 hits of 50k and I have already 2 sigh-ups @ $20 each

ya this traffic must be total shit :1orglaugh

Dildozer 10-20-2002 03:33 PM

Choker i tried paypal'ing you but no luck cuz of my cc company and i can't send money from my bank account as i am in canada. I'll try to get this fixed tomorrow but is there any other way i could pay you?

mrthumbs 10-20-2002 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by punkworld


If a surfer clicks to see a gallery, and he sees a gallery, how exactly is that blind traffic???

If that was true, his traffic would convert better.

Libertine 10-20-2002 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Choker

Punkworld it's not blind. There are just a lot of idiots that are fast to jump on the bashing bandwagon when they read about something they can't understand. Galleryspots.com is basically a pool of over 300 TGPs that are selling gallery spots together. I just coordinate it all.

Yeah, I know. Just signed up today :)
I was just wondering how he got the idea that the traffic is blind.

Choker 10-20-2002 04:19 PM

Quote:

If that was true, his traffic would convert better
Like I said before Mr Thumbs, when you understand what we are talking about your feedback is welcome. Until then your stupid babbling is getting tiresome. First of all only 1/10th of the traffic is from me, the rest is from over 300 other TGP's. Since this gallery traffic comes from so many different TGP's, the argument that the traffic source is the problem is utter non-sense. If you can't make money from these gallery spots then you do indeed need to flip burgers for a living like MrTHumbs does. Getting signups from galleries is a very inconsistant thing. A gallery that gets 20 signups one day may get none the next. It's all a numbers game.

mrthumbs 10-20-2002 04:29 PM

:1orglaugh i rest my case

421Fill 10-20-2002 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mrthumbs
:1orglaugh i rest my case
you used to make sense... what happened?

mrthumbs 10-20-2002 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by turbo


you used to make sense... what happened?

I hear that a lot lately.. :Graucho

Marcus 10-20-2002 11:28 PM

Thanks to Choker I had no problem getting my 12 ap sales.

and according to lens' email the sales ratio from that gallery listed with Choker is at 1:113

I'll be buying more :glugglug

Juge 10-21-2002 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mrthumbs
And how does Choker get his trafffic from those 'actual tgp's'?

Let me guess: blind traffic..

:1orglaugh Wrong. Not a single hit I have sent choker has been blind. Not one. Look around, and I think you'll find this is rather consistent with the rest of the TGPs that send him traffic.

Juge 10-21-2002 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mrthumbs
If that was true, his traffic would convert better.
Perhaps the problem isn't with his traffic.

vegasdude 10-21-2002 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream



www.cybercatinc.com real traffic, real sites

:thumbsup

Dusen 10-21-2002 09:36 AM

Being a total newb I realize that what I say doesn't carry much clout.

But I got free traffic from choker last week or whatever, and I was promoting adult platinum. Had some great content and in my 20k, got 1 signup. it was about 1:300, which I think is super.

http://picjunkie.com/galleries/0002/indexchok.htm

I don't understand people complaining about the quality of the traffic, I would rather assume that it is the quality of the gallery.

I bought another 50k on this gallery

http://picjunkie.com/galleries/0003/indexchok.php

and I got 0 signups. Looking at the gallery now, I am not sure why I wasted the traffic on it, but one thing I did NOT do is blame choker.

I'm not affiliated with the guy in any way, just a customer. The moral of my story, I guess is that I got 70k in traffic from him, got 1 sale only, but I don't blame the traffic at all. If there is fault to be assigned, it is to my poor gallery design.

I am tired of hearing how choker is this and choker is that. Look at other factors than his traffic. Myself, I will continue to buy Choker's traffic in the future.

As a side note, anyone with any gallery advice, I'd love to hear it.

J

Scully0325 10-21-2002 10:56 AM

we love you Choker :)

Candyman69 10-28-2002 10:51 AM

Best way to get your galleries around is to try diff places
if one place dont work try another

give my sig a try

ive been doing a good 7-8 sales /day consitently with them


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