McCain is perhaps the worst GOP nominee since DOLE.
 

I am neither dem or rep, but jesus christ McCain looks like a fucking corpse when he speaks.. how the fuck does the GOP end up backing this guy? Forget his politics for a second, how can a guy that looks like he might die at any second gonna win over anyone on the fence? Only people that will vote for him are those afraid of Obama's marxism, and even then I think they might not vote at all.


With either of these clowns we are fucked, I hope they both pick their VP's well, they might be our only hope since neither of these guys will last a year in the whitehouse.

I predict he'll die before he even gets a chance to take office.

which one will die? I say neither have a chance.

lol. good point.

So I wonder. Say in November McCain gets elected. Then in December as he is putting his team together, but before he is sworn in, he has a heart attack or a stroke or something. He dies (or maybe not but is physically unable to take office). Then what? does the VP take office even though McCain was never sworn in?

VP gets in, not that it matters cause he doesn't have a chance unless videos of Obama holding up a liquor store or beating up white people comes out.

I imagine there is a huge scramble to be his VP because the odds have to be in your favor (if he somehow pulls out the win) that you get into office. Even if he makes it through his first term he has said before he may only serve one term so if that happens you are already the front runner.

All that said, I agree with you that he has an uphill climb ahead of him. The other day on the news they had a guy who said something pretty funny. He said this is the year you have a guy who is electable (McCain) running in a party that can't possibly win the election and you have a guy that shouldn't get elected (Obama) running in a party that can't possibly lose. It is a strange mix.

there's a scramble to be both of their VP's for the same reason, chances are pretty high you will get in.

I don't think McCain is electable, he can barely talk without looking like he's gonna fall asleep. And Obama looks like the real Manchurian Candidate with a billion dollars of pissed off left wing money behind him. Neither of these guys should be your choice in November..

Gleem you are showing your true colors. Interesting.

I am just pissed cause I thought I was gonna see a good fight between 2 equally unqualified politicians from our 2 party system duke it out and I thought only Mitt Romney had a chance at debating with Obama, it's all Huckabee's fault, they ganged up on Mitt and fucked him.

Obama could fart on McCain and he'd win.

McCain does pretty well in front of a live audience taking questions and obama is a robot and can't speak unless he's reading.

Infact, obama has made huge fuck ups that you don't see in the mainstream press but don't worry you will and some of them make Bush look smart.

McCain just challenged Obama to 10 town hall debates and obama pussied out and only wants one. Obama wants 10 debates where he can talk for 30 seconds to a moderator because he can't handle speaking off message.

I think that no matter who gets elected they will suck and I hope that who ever it is congress is controlled by the other party. Obama with a majority Democrat congress would be a disaster and the same for McCain and the GOP!

I got this via email today. I gotta say that I totally agree with it. The price of gas and the ability to sell porn online won't matter when there are nukes going off inside your country's border. I know a lot of you will say that it doesn't matter what happens in the US but rest assured, it's not just the US that will be at risk - we'll just be first.

I was a nuclear weapons specialist in the Air Force and I know first hand what the actual core of a nuclear weapon looks like, its' size and weight and yes, it would easily fit inside a back-pack. This WILL BE the next biggest threat to all of our freedoms. It is not a matter of if - only when. The Hollywood version of this scenario playing out is a movie called the Peacemaker - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119874/. It's actually a very good movie and worth the cost of a dvd rental and popcorn.

Anyway, here's the email I received:

Now that the two parties have finally selected their presidential candidates,it is time for a sober-- if not grim-- assessment of where we are.

Not since 1972 have we been presented with two such painfully inadequate candidates. When election day came that year, I could not bring myself to vote for either George McGovern or Richard Nixon. I stayed home.

This year, none of us has that luxury. While all sorts of gushing is going on in the media, and posturing is going on in politics, the biggest national sponsor of terrorism in the world -- Iran-- is moving step by step toward building a nuclear bomb.

The point when they get that bomb will be the point of no return. Iran's nuclear bomb will be the terrorists' nuclear bomb-- and they can make 9/11 look like child's play. All the options that are on the table right now will be swept off the table forever.

Our choices will be to give in to whatever the terrorists demand -- however outrageous those demands might be-- or to risk seeing American cities start disappearing in radioactive mushroom clouds. All the things we are preoccupied with today, from the price of gasoline to health care to global warming, will suddenly no longer matter.

Just as the Nazis did not find it enough to simply kill people in their concentration camps, but had to humiliate and dehumanize them first, so we can expect terrorists with nuclear weapons to both humiliate us and force us to humiliate ourselves, before they finally start killing us.

They have already telegraphed their punches with their sadistic beheadings of innocent civilians, and with the popularity of videotapes of those beheadings in the Middle East. They have already telegraphed their intention to dictate to us with such things as Osama bin Laden's threats to target those places in America that did not vote the way he prescribed in the 2004 elections. He could not back up those threats then but he may be able to in a very few years.

The terrorists have given us as clear a picture of what they are all about as Adolf Hitler and the Nazis did during the 1930s-- and our "leaders" and intelligentsia have ignored the warning signs as resolutely as the "leaders" and intelligentsia of the 1930s downplayed the dangers of Hitler.

We are much like people drifting down the Niagara River, oblivious to the waterfalls up ahead. Once we go over those falls, we cannot come back up again. What does this have to do with today's presidential candidates? It has everything to do with them. One of these candidates will determine what we are going to do to stop Iran from going nuclear-- or whether we are going to do anything other than talk, as Western leaders talked in the 1930s.

There is one big difference between now and the 1930s. Although the West's lack of military preparedness and its political irresolution led to three solid years of devastating losses to Nazi Germany and imperial Japan, nevertheless when all the West's industrial and military forces were finally mobilized, the democracies were able to turn the tide and win decisively.

But you cannot lose a nuclear war for three years and then come back. You cannot even sustain the will to resist for three years when you are first broken down morally by threats and then devastated by nuclear bombs. Our one window of opportunity to prevent this will occur within the term of whoever becomes President of the United States next January.

At a time like this, we do not have the luxury of waiting for our ideal candidate or of indulging our emotions by voting for some third party candidate to show our displeasure-- at the cost of putting someone in the White House who is not up to the job.

Senator John McCain has been criticized in this column many times. But, when all is said and done, Senator McCain has not spent decades aiding and abetting people who hate America. On the contrary, he has paid a huge price for resisting our enemies, even when they held him prisoner and tortured him.

The choice between him and Barack Obama should be a no-brainer.

Bama I like you and respect your views but alas that email copy pasta was again slanted. Also some of the people McCain have aligned himself with are our own version of religious terrorists.

As for his stint as a POW, enough already. Of course people are already swift boating it, for lack of a better term. His own MIA people are turning on him. As far as price paid, I see him paying no more than anyone else who has served in that war or any other. It can also be said that many paid a price for civil rights in our own countries internal war, and no it did not just end with segregation -hell this whole election process really shows how alive the divide really is.

I also am not really a supporter of either and I am registered as Independent. I just do not like to see the one sided messages that are being passed around.

I respect McCain and his service to this country but just because you were in a POW camp for fives years does not mean you are going to be any good and dealing with a rogue Islamic nation.

The reality is we don't know how either of these guys will be as a president. If a guy was a governor you can get some kind of idea because being a governor is kind of like being a mini president. You can look at how they did as governor and conclude, roughly, what they will be like as a president. But neither of these guys has done that. Being in the Senate is a whole different beast and nothing like being a governor. So we can speculate and look at their pasts and argue until we are blue in the face but until one of them is on the job we won't know how they will do. Honestly it has as much to do with the people they will eventually surround themselves with and how much they trust and listen to the as anything else.

Ron Paul destroy Obama in a debate and show Obamas true neo-con colors. Mitt would have held his own. Now we have Obama vs McCain and they both will keep Bush's wasteful, harmful, and unconstitutional policies in place. :disgust

I thought McCain would have been a good President in 2000 but South Carolina decided that it was time to abandon conservative values and go Neoconservative. Actually the GOP and the talking heads have not been supporters of McCain ever. They wanted Romney, not because he is a conservative but because he will say and do anything that he's told just like Bush.

The PNAC, Rupert, Rush, Beck and all are not happy that McCain is running and not happy that Americans aren't doing what they're told this time around.

I agree that neither candidate is really worthy of the nomination of their respective parties and true, the "he served and he didn't" card has been overplayed.

Pie or cake is a great choice and I think we're stuck between choosing dog food or cat food - but the major subject of that email - nuclear terrorism - really worries me a great deal when choosing a President.

We have a number of checks and balances (stacked Congress) to endure one single President doesn't totally fuck up the country on major topics such as welfare reform and national health care but the President is given a wide berth on foreign policy - hell, Bush is a prime example of "this is what I'm gonna' do and you can't stop me" philosophy.

Bush did - he just didn't do it right. The next guy has to fix his mistakes and look at the bigger picture of preventing future acts of terrorism and I do believe in my lifetime I'll witness a nuclear detonation within the borders of the US.

I just don't believe that Obama is the guy who'll stand tough on the types of prevention necessary. With McCain, at least there is a chance he'll have a Hanoi Hilton flashback and go tribal on some countries who actually pose a threat to our way of life.

My goal is to make people think - and think about more than just the price of gas. If the time comes and it's inevitable that we must go to war against Iran or North Korea - would Obama have the stones to pull that trigger? I don't know the answer to that question for sure, but I just don't see it in him.

Foreign policy is the single most important issue for me and for now, between the two candidates, is why I'll vote for McCain over Obama and I'm overlooking the "he served" card. I voted for Clinton over Dole in 96.

Congrats, you're an idiot:thumbsup

God damn you are stupid, When did Ron Paul debate Obama???? Wow u showed how stupid you are, carry on

amazing how much garbage in this so-called email .... It doesn't take long to associate the beheadings to Iran ( beheadins were in Iraq )... Iran this, Iran that ...

To my knowledge, unless I missed a few days of news , Iran hasn't invaded any country ... Sure, they talk in metaphore on Israel ... but they always did and will continue ...

As for McCain prisonner status, I just can't understand what is so noble ...If it is, then a few " folks" in Gantanamo are real heroes ..... :1orglaugh

McCain is nothing more than a throw away for the GOP. They know there is almost no chance in hell of a Republican getting elected after how much Bush has fucked up. So McCain was the last man left standing out of a pool of throw away from the GOP.

McCain may not be the best GOP Candidate in a while, however, I do not think Obama can handle the the Republican Machine that is rumbling his way. McCain will not win the election solely because of who is he is or what he stands for but will get a huge boost from Obama faltering under pressure.

maybe after the mess that is coming over the next 4 years after either of these tards ruin the country a little more there will be a 3rd party with a candidate that has a chance.

We need a libertarian with a better foreign policy.

I forgot to type the word "would" :winkwink:

What pressure will he fault under? Clinton had a WAY better chance at smacking him down in a debate and he killed. Mccain will falter in a huge way when the debates begin. :2 cents:

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Lets hope so

Damn, some real good fear mongering in that email.

I am almost scared enough that I would do whatever they say, and cast my vote not on hopes for a better tomorrow, but fear that Iran is going to somehow deliver their one crappy little nuclear bomb to the U.S. (when they get one) and that a Peace-monger like Obama will be too much of a pussy to retaliate with any one of our 10000 active nuclear war heads. Yeah, the US is in real trouble unless we keep policing the world and making more enemies. That is our only hope.

:2 cents:

All you MCSAME cock suckers won't have to worry about Obama debating Mcbush...Mcbush is doing very well debating HIMSELF.. He is the original Flip- flopper...he is so full of shit, his eyeballs are swimming in sewage.. each day he says 1 thing, then the next day, denies saying it...so he's actually debating himself. How does it feel to be a tool?

Nothing is more insufferable than the ObamaBot. They are starting to pop up at all social gatherings, and god forbid someone mentions anything political!

You get a 1 hour lecture about how Obama can do this, Obama can do that, Obama can walk on water, Obama is jesus reborn, Obama can solve the economy by turning water into gold, Obama can make all the Terrorists into tree hugging hippies ....

But mention McCain around the ObamaBots and and you get... McCain wants to send children into Iraq for 100 years, McCain is on life support and will die any minute, McCain loves George Bush and they have family dinner every evening, McCain is the undead and feeds on human babies, ....

Comeon Give me a fucking break. A large part of the world is getting sick to death of having this Obama idiot shoved down our necks! Sure I have always thought Bush is an idiot and the Democrats deserve a turn, but having this Obama nobody shoved down our necks nightly by our news networks is wearing thin.

Pretty obvious someone with real power (media) has an agenda, shame most people are absolute idiots.

Although I personally like Obama, I absolutely agree that the media is fucking out of control.

Each side is always accusing the other side of taking shit out of context, and it's pretty much always true because both 'sides' are equally bad.

I get as pissed off when I hear a 'fellow-democrat' talk about McCain 'wanting' to be in Iraq for 100 years as I do when I hear a republican talking about how Michelle Obama has 'never been proud of this country'. Both sides just need to shut the fuck up.

Line up the pundits, make them dig their own graves ... you know the rest.

I'm so glad I'm not the only one who sees the McCain-Dole resemblance. Both are also-rans who basically had the nomination handed to them simply because they kept running and were due (I believe Dole had been running for President for over 10 years).

Both are awful about defending themselves and standing their ground. After the shit Bush made McCain eat, I'm stunned McCain will even talk to Bush, heaven forbid shake his hand and smile. I have no respect for him. He's a looser.

Dole won the nomination simply because he ran the longest and everyone (even myself) felt he was due. The royal bitchslapping he got from the Christian right, and his inability to defend himself, cost him my vote and my respect.

What really stuns me is no Governor made it to the final nominations. Governors make much better candidates. The last senator I know of who won an election was Kennedy.

John McCain Gets Owned on Meet The Press

Of course the media is out of control. Ever heard of "the washington bubble"? Well there is a definite "media bubble" as well. Those inside it simply lack the perspective to see how much they skew.

For instance, why in the middle of March was CNN running the banner "Should Hillary Quit" all day long and doing nothing but entertain the notion that it was a valid topic of discussion? Larry "older than dirt" King dedicated hours and hours to this red herring topic. Were they blind to the fact that it swayed voters, or were they actually complicit in it? The choice is either incompetence, or an active role in anothers campaign. I can say that because I'm outside the media bubble. I'm sure they have no such perspective since they and others aired such nonsense for months. Hillary was still winning huge and yet they still seemed to think "Should Hillary Quit" was a valid subject. Where was the "Should Obama Quit" banners and days on end topic of discussion? He was losing 8 in a row and yet we didnt hear that once. Not once.

You cant rely on any single source of news, you have to view and read the ones you like, and the ones you dislike and come to your opinion which is usually somewhere down the middle.

Of course you wont hear the media take apart the "100 years in Iraq" except for pointing out that he was referring to occupying the country such as we do in Germany, Japan, Korea. What they FAIL to point out is that such policies are 60 fucking year old thinking! And those were wars with real "enemy's" where things like the Geneva protocols applied in full. Not this pseudo civil war. McCain rails against Rumsfeld for mismanaging the whole thing, and yet doesnt say we should get out quickly. Welp, thats a stamp of approval to me, but does the media phrase it like that? fuck no. It would upset the status quo.

On McCain- Dole.. I'm betting that one day, McCain is going to stumble and fall on camera and he's going to be pinned with "too old" to the point where polls show 60% to 40% for Obama. It's gonna happen, stay tuned. :upsidedow

I concur, I concur.


McCain won because every other candidate ganged up to get Romney out of the race so McCain could be handed the nomination cause he was "due".

McCain was due in 2000, but that was before Bush/Rove took his ass apart by hitting so far below the belt it wasn't even close. But now McCain takes donation from Rove, and says he'd welcome his advice. What a pal, what a pal. Give away any CIA operatives names lately? Christ.

i totally agree

Dude, you are flat out wrong.

Obama never lost 8 in a row.

The nomination was over for Hillary on Super Tuesday and everyone with a brain could see it.

On Super Tuesday Obama won 11 to 9.

From Feb 9 to Mar 4, Obama won 12 to 2.

From Mar 8 to Jun 3, Clinton won 6 to 5.

Orange Alert, anyone?
 

You have got to be fucking kidding me. The fear-mongering suggestion that a democrat can't make us safe is an old republican tactic, dating back to Nixon, since refined by Rove. I am astonished there are people on this board who still believe any of that bullshit. I thought we were smarter than that.