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ChefJeff 06-05-2008 04:05 PM

Just in - Max hardcore GUILTY on all charges
 
http://www2.tbo.com/content/2008/jun...eciding-verdi/

UNfucking believeable...

WTF?

Jace 06-05-2008 04:06 PM

woah, did NOT expect that

pocketkangaroo 06-05-2008 04:07 PM

Keep voting Republican guys.

ChefJeff 06-05-2008 04:08 PM

He didn't even mail the videos in question to Tampa. JadedVideo.com mailed them. And at least according to this jury, site trailers can be judged on their own, "taken as a whole" does not mean the entire web site when it comes to the internet. This is bizarre.

Spunky 06-05-2008 04:08 PM

Damn..that's fucked up

Robbie 06-05-2008 04:09 PM

Wow...welcome back to the 1970's. This is not good for anybody.

DWB 06-05-2008 04:10 PM

ruh-roh....

xentech 06-05-2008 04:10 PM

siiiig spot

papill0n 06-05-2008 04:10 PM

what a fucked up situation

chri$tian 06-05-2008 04:11 PM

not all charges only 10 of 20, still sucks...

dev777 06-05-2008 04:11 PM

this is gonna change shit for a lot of people

MeganS 06-05-2008 04:11 PM

This is NOT good!

JFK 06-05-2008 04:11 PM

sorry to hear that:disgust

Jace 06-05-2008 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chri$tian (Post 14285176)
not all charges only 10 of 20, still sucks...

he was found guilty on 10 and his company was found guilty on 10...all 20 charges

SykkBoy 06-05-2008 04:13 PM

I feel the need to puke...but I'll make sure I don't film it and stake the film to Florida with me...

ChefJeff 06-05-2008 04:13 PM

Yes, all charges.

After much deliberation by the jury, adult movie producer Max Hardcore, whose real name is Paul Little, was found guilty of 10 federal counts of distributing obscene materials over the Internet and through the mail.

His company, Maxworld Entertainment, was also found guilty on 10 related charges.

wjxxx 06-05-2008 04:13 PM

beginning of the end

baddog 06-05-2008 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chri$tian (Post 14285176)
not all charges only 10 of 20, still sucks...

His corp got the other 10 it appears.

Socks 06-05-2008 04:13 PM

I have no problems with Max Hardcore, and hate to see an industry vet go down like this.

But it has to be said: The nail that sticks out gets hammered down.

Honez 06-05-2008 04:15 PM

Wow. I don't know what else to say right now.

xentech 06-05-2008 04:16 PM

Why is everyone so surprised? The stuff on his site is disgusting in my opinion, and it is most definitely obscene! Why are you surprised that somebody distributing obscene material is getting found guilty on charges of distributing obscene content?

SiMpLe 06-05-2008 04:16 PM

Oh shit :Oh crap
Reading it all now

pr0 06-05-2008 04:17 PM

hopefully we can get some people/judges elected to office in the next couple years who will realize "obscenity" is in the eye of the beholder....& thus not applicable to law

ChefJeff 06-05-2008 04:17 PM

Obscene to some, not to others. In any event, free speech is free speech, obscenity laws are unconstitutional.

But I guess in America, the government decides what we can and can't watch in the privacy of our own homes.

Jace 06-05-2008 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xentech (Post 14285205)
Why is everyone so surprised? The stuff on his site is disgusting in my opinion, and it is most definitely obscene! Why are you surprised that somebody distributing obscene material is getting found guilty on charges of distributing obscene content?

well, because as much as I hate max and his body of work, i believe that if two consenting adults chose to have rough sex and video tape it, they shouldn't be put in jail for it

xentech 06-05-2008 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xentech (Post 14285205)
Why is everyone so surprised? The stuff on his site is disgusting in my opinion, and it is most definitely obscene! Why are you surprised that somebody distributing obscene material is getting found guilty on charges of distributing obscene content?

Just to clarify, I don't agree with it. I think he should be allowed push his shit, it is all legal afterall and I believe in a free market. However, I really don't see why people are surprised...

Honez 06-05-2008 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xentech (Post 14285205)
Why is everyone so surprised? The stuff on his site is disgusting in my opinion, and it is most definitely obscene! Why are you surprised that somebody distributing obscene material is getting found guilty on charges of distributing obscene content?

Because of this:
".....found guilty of 10 federal counts of distributing obscene materials over the Internet..."

That is going to affect all of us.

fuzebox 06-05-2008 04:18 PM

I really like this quote from a comment on the article...

"Obscenity is the only law, the only one, that you don't know if you've broken it until a jury decides. How can that be constitutional?"

xentech 06-05-2008 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jace (Post 14285215)
well, because as much as I hate max and his body of work, i believe that if two consenting adults chose to have rough sex and video tape it, they shouldn't be put in jail for it

See my last post, I agree with you there but I'm just saying It doesn't surprise me...

pr0 06-05-2008 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Socks (Post 14285194)
I have no problems with Max Hardcore, and hate to see an industry vet go down like this.

But it has to be said: The nail that sticks out gets hammered down.

well now that max got hammered....who's the person "sticking out" the most after him?

pretty soon they'll get to everyone

consider this business doomed

WiredGuy 06-05-2008 04:20 PM

Say hello to conservative America. Its no shocker the jury and jursidiction was selected within Tampa to secure a better chance of a guilty verdict.
WG

ChefJeff 06-05-2008 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xentech (Post 14285216)
Just to clarify, I don't agree with it. I think he should be allowed push his shit, it is all legal afterall and I believe in a free market. However, I really don't see why people are surprised...

He didn't even ship the videos in question to Tampa. The distributor did. The distributor got immunity.

This has to be overturned on appeal.

baddog 06-05-2008 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jace (Post 14285215)
well, because as much as I hate max and his body of work, i believe that if two consenting adults chose to have rough sex and video tape it, they shouldn't be put in jail for it

And they weren't. I never read anything about them being charged with the acts or the filming of them . . . unless you know something I don't.

ChefJeff 06-05-2008 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 14285227)
I really like this quote from a comment on the article...

"Obscenity is the only law, the only one, that you don't know if you've broken it until a jury decides. How can that be constitutional?"

That was me. Thanks. Now I can say that I have been quoted!!! That's awesome. Not for Max. But still. LOL.

Socks 06-05-2008 04:22 PM

The government mandates almost everything you do inside "your" home that the bank most likely owns.

If they want to build a new highway, guess whose moving.

If you watch CP on your computer, chances are the FBI will be knocking.

Not allowed to smoke a plant, not allowed to possess tons of shit, not allowed to harbor people, not allowed to grow certain things, not allowed to paint your house any colour you want

Hell, you need permission to cut down a tree! No digging either.

If you want to build an addition to your house, at least a few people need to be greased to make it ok.

They need to know whose living in your house at all times.

You can't use your house as a business, not supposed to sell things on your property, not allowed to own all kinds of different animals..

I mean the lists go on and on.. How surprised can we be that the government wants to control what kind of pornography we watch?

Jace 06-05-2008 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 14285250)
And they weren't. I never read anything about them being charged with the acts or the filming of them . . . unless you know something I don't.

jesus, do you ever stop arguing about tedious shit just to argue?

as with everyone else, you know damn well what I meant

marketsmart 06-05-2008 04:24 PM

if you want to poke the dog, you must be prepared for the bite.. i never understood why max felt the need to add that little extra, like "i will rape your underage sister" and borderline simulated rape, etc...

i guess we will see what happens on appeal..

in any case, i think it sets another dangerous precedent for this industry...

Socks 06-05-2008 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pr0 (Post 14285234)
well now that max got hammered....who's the person "sticking out" the most after him?

pretty soon they'll get to everyone

consider this business doomed

I get the argument, but they drew the line before too.. No rape, no beastiality, no bleeding, no violence.. You know them all.

In my opinion, if you showed even a porn consumer a full video of all of the above, they would place what Max Hardcore does in the same shoebox.

baddog 06-05-2008 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jace (Post 14285264)
jesus, do you ever stop arguing about tedious shit just to argue?

as with everyone else, you know damn well what I meant

You said he was convicted for having rough sex and taping it. What did you mean?

Mutt 06-05-2008 04:25 PM

ruh roh - anybody in the US hardcore porn industry should be feeling more than a little sick right now. that is seriously fucked up no matter how wacked out Max Hardcore's content is - for all we know that jury might have come to the same decision on content that is not that extreme to us in the industry because we are numbed to it all.

why wasn't Jaded Video also charged?

ChefJeff 06-05-2008 04:26 PM

Revolution? Who's with me? JK LOL. We can do it, it's in the declaration of independance...

That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government

Some Guy 06-05-2008 04:27 PM

Yeah, I'm thinking that an appeal is in order here. Good chance of this being overturned.

I'm not shocked by this verdict, though. Seems like in America, porn producers are always getting fucked... no pun intended.

I'm always getting screwed over by the legal system in my area because they know who I am, what I do, and look for every opportunity to mess with me. Last year the city decided to nail me with a "zoning law violation" for shooting nude models in the privacy of my own home and fined me $2,500.00.

Just earlier today I got a notice saying I'm being fined $270.00 for the weeds in my yard being higher than 6", which they're absolutely not (my front yard is way nice), yet all of my neighbor's yards are far worse.

Once the legal system knows who you are, it's all bad news. I feel really bad for Max Hardcore. Hopefully he can fight this verdict.

Hollywood Horwitz 06-05-2008 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChefJeff (Post 14285221)
Obscene to some, not to others. In any event, free speech is free speech, obscenity laws are unconstitutional.

But I guess in America, the government decides what we can and can't watch in the privacy of our own homes.

I agree Jeff! I may find it obscene(which I don't) but it doesn't give the right to invade peoples right to watch it. I'm sure the idea of peeing in someones mouth is totally gross(which it is) but different strokes..different folks..

Methodcash Rick 06-05-2008 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xentech (Post 14285205)
Why is everyone so surprised? The stuff on his site is disgusting in my opinion, and it is most definitely obscene! Why are you surprised that somebody distributing obscene material is getting found guilty on charges of distributing obscene content?

So I guess you're all for the 1st amendment, as long as what's being said or shown doesn't offend you?

eightmotives 06-05-2008 04:29 PM

Oh well, shit happens bitch nuts.

marketsmart 06-05-2008 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jace (Post 14285264)
jesus, do you ever stop arguing about tedious shit just to argue?

as with everyone else, you know damn well what I meant

no, he does not.... he should be out shopping for towels, to wipe that egg off his face for going to bat for that banana chick....

ChefJeff 06-05-2008 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 14285277)
ruh roh -

why wasn't Jaded Video also charged?

They got immunity in exchange for testifying against Max. Even though they are the ones that actually shipped the videos in question. They didn't charge Max with shipping the videos to the distributor in CA, JadedVideo.com, they charged him with shipping the videos to FLA. Which he didn't do, Jaded did.

Miss Munki 06-05-2008 04:29 PM

:Oh crap:Oh crap:Oh crap:Oh crap

GatorB 06-05-2008 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Honez (Post 14285224)
Because of this:
".....found guilty of 10 federal counts of distributing obscene materials over the Internet..."

That is going to affect all of us.

This wil be appealed and should go all the way to the supreme court. You can NOT use "community standards" when applied to the WORLD WIDE web. That means some DA in some backwater in Alabama can take Hugh Hefner to court over playboy.com for "obscenity" because in his "community" Playboy is obscene.

Some Guy 06-05-2008 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 14285309)
This wil be appealed and should go all the way to the supreme court. You can NOT use "community standards" when applied to the WORLD WIDE web. That means some DA in some backwater in Alabama can take Hugh Hefner to court over playboy.com for "obscenity" because in his "community" Playboy is obscene.

Very well said.

:thumbsup


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