Ok Help me out ReplubiCAN'TS..why are we in IRAQ?
 

Just wondering
1. We just wanted to blow some Arab fuckers up after 911 ( Iraq has WMD)
2. No they didn't, so Saddam is a Tyrant, let's kill him

3. Done, he's dead now

4. Let's liberate the Iraqis so they can vote like us...The Oil will pay for the WAR
( It hasn't) and the Iraqis DON'T WANT US THERE..Plus You killed the only Equalizer in the region to IRAN..great job there

So we are dying..for What reason again???
Our gas is HIGH, Bush went to the Saudis on bended knee begging for more Oil out-put they said NO bitch!

We can not WIN this war, because NOT one of you blind McCain Mutha Fucks can tell me the definition of WINNING in IRAQ..what is the goddamn Goal here??? Please help me understand this

You can not beat terrorism. It is an idea, not a group of people or country. Like freedom, it can't be beaten. Anyone who fights this war will fight it forever.

It was never about WMDs or Saddam. If you want to know one of the, if not THE reason we went to war with them, it is because they were selling oil in EUROS (since 2000) and not US Dollars, as they and the rest of the world has been since day one.

http://archives.cnn.com/2000/WORLD/m....un.euro.reut/

Or maybe I'm just crazy.

Some good pros and cons for the idea that we went to war over a oil currency change.

http://www.usiraqprocon.org/bin/proc...551095 810212

Interesting to know that soon after we had control of Iraq, the Euro was dropped and all oil was sold in USD again.

terror :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Ok so that's it..Blood for OIL..ok and some of these numbnuts on this board want to STAY in IRAQ and vote for Mcbush...fucking amazing how dumb some folks are

lots of people there too..

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Read the document REBUILDING AMERICA’S DEFENSES from The Project for the New American Century put together by a bunch of Bush cronies in 2000.

lets not forget the dems were beating the war drum just as loud as the republicans.

I distinctly recall Bush Jr. saying, "Because they tried to kill my Daddy!"

I don't know, I just want my dad to come home from Iraq. They extended his stay twice... I'm not republican or democrat. I just want what's best for our country.

republi cunts?

No one can tell you why we are there. If they tell you anything, it's just foolishness.

There's no good reason.

Karma!


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We're there because Bush is an idiot, the middle-east knows he's an idiot, so they tricked him. Now they are destroying our country without weapons, soon they will buy up most of it with the huge money they are making from oil, and take over.

The End.

LOL..funny shit.

its also funny that picture is so old people were actually listening to his speech.

Because Iraq was weak.
Iran was going to topple Iraq.

It was also possible a Nuclear arms race would develop between Iraq and Iran.
One of them countries will not have nukes now and hopefully with the next presidency neither of them will have an arm's race or war.

If you pay attention to history Iran and Iraq were at war constantly.

Saudi's needed a cushion, Saudi's are America's "friend" therefore it made perfect sense at the time to take out Iraq. Iraq has the largest oil reserves in the world it would make little sense to put it in the hands of Iranians or have it sit there as Iraq continued defending itself from Iranian invasion and Iranian funded terrorism.

Pretty simple if you ask me.

PS: Some of you people are the dumbest mother fuckers in the world and really have no business in things you have no idea about. I do not claim to know it all here but the above is one of my guesses.

I have a prediction, that most have now caught on to. TERRORIST do not need to kill us anymore...just fuck up the pipeline of oil in the middle east, driving prices through the roof, and crippling the US economy further.. None of us we have to worry about porn sales, because guys will be jacking off to free tube sites or a can of QUAKERSTATE

The goal is for big companies to make more money Period!

Ok simple, say I believe your analyisis..so why wasn't that the reason, BUSH told us in 2002.hmmmm So you are ok with fighting a LIE WAR, watching another 4k Americans die??

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Don't argue with AlienQ, I am almost positive every post he makes is fake and a troll attempt. No one can believe that horseass.

I for one an absolutly certain the Iraq war is for the best interest's of the world, not just America. Once Iraq cleans up a little more, the oil will be invaluable to everyone not just Americans.

Many of you forget also that Iraqi's had no civilised life under Saddam, though I think he was a great leader the period in Iraq that he ruled. Infact he would still be an excellent leader if he was not damaged good's to world politics.

Being at war with Iran for several years and fighting Iranian Influence was never easy even when he ran Iraq. You can look at what the Iranians are doin in Iraq now. Under Saddam's leadership he had no choice but to bluff Iran about WMD while running a real strong domestic intelligence agency to combat Iranian influence within Iraq.

Again I am guesssing but it is safe to say there is still alot to be known about the reasons for the Iraq war. Reasons that most would not understand but I try and put the pieces together.

There's no way you believe this.

OK yeah Iraq was just a war for aggression and to kill people, no other reason...

Fuck you people are lame.

So we went to war and had OUR people die because we wanted to beat Iran to it? When Iran is just as easy a target before or after any conflict they might or might not start with Iraq?

You do understand that real live people are dying over there right?

Actually, your analysis is perhaps one of the dumbest fucking things I've ever read in defense of the war. It shows a complete understanding of the region, the political makeup, and war strategy.

In your theory, we didn't want Iran to take over Iraq, so we invaded Iraq? So since we don't want China taking over Taiwan, do you believe we should go in and blow up Taiwan? It makes no fucking sense whatsoever.

Not to mention that Iran wouldn't have been able to take over Iraq. There were no-fly zones throughout the country that would have seen any Iranian plane shot down immediately. Saudi Arabia would have vehemently helped Iraqis in this battle and have just as strong a military as Iran (we basically built their military). We would have also not allowed it to happen and crippled the country both militarily but economically. Much of Europe had large financial interests in Iraq and would have seen that it wouldn't happen either. It would be mass suicide for the Iranians to even conceive the plan in this era.

Try money. Look at the stocks of Haliburton, Fluor, Perini, L3 from the beginning of the war to now. Every one of them has close connections to the administration. Other companies like Blackwater have essentially grown from nothing to multi-million dollar companies and now employ many people who worked for the administration, CIA, or Pentagon.

LOL I love the topic title, you pathetic sucker, the democrats are just as guilty.

Remember how we booted the republicans out of congress and elected democrats under this "stop the war" line? Well your little democrats buddies have since then voted to re-authorize and re-fund the war yet again.

SUCKER.

When you're ready to wake up and admit you've been a gullable idiot, come join me in the land of Indpendents who think for themselves.

simon this is a MUST watch

bush "heard from someone" that they had wmd's
http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=96473

Morally Right or wrong, here is my theory:

A. Establish a foothold in the Middle East as a safehouse/ staging ground in the event of a further escalation with muslim extremist/ extremist regimes.

B. Secure the worlds largest oil reserves in a time of increasing aggression towards American policy/ depreciating dollar.

your thoughts?

who knows what kind of drugs AlienQ is on?

The world needs oil to come out of there thus it needs a stabilised and fair government.
Not just filling the pocket's of a dictator. Who knows man, there is far more inforamtion about the necessity of this war one can be sure of that.

from what I can tell from history alot of things lead to what it is today and the outcome is very important. One can only hope some pussy American President does not come in and close shop in Iraq so that the place can really fall into Civil war for many many years keeping resources in the ground the world at large needs.

And yeah America went in there and our attempts to fix it is met with nothing but ridicule from imbecilles and unknowing people about global politics.

I am not an expert but observing some of the facts of the region yeilds a pretty good explanation but again it's just my speculation yet you people pretend to know the whole deal...

The fuck you got to say about what I think. Eat a dick and fuck yourself.

Bingo, and I do not see a fucking thing wrong with that.
The world is about survival and if Americans need to kill people to prolong our civilization and safety I can give two shits about the killing, fuck these rag heads and thier games. So be it. I rather see my way of life progress in the future than Islamic retards.

Recommended reading on Iraq, the war, the region and related subjects:

"Cobra II: The Inside Story of the Invasion and Occupation of Iraq" by Michael R. Gordon and Bernard E. Trainor -- an excellent, highly detailed military history of the war, and very light on political slant.

"Fiasco: The American Military Adventure in Iraq" by Thomas E. Ricks -- less objective than Cobra II, but includes a strong analysis of the failure to adopt proper counterinsurgency strategy during the first several years of the war.

"Sleeping with the Devil: How Washington Sold Our Soul for Saudi Crude" by Robert Baer -- Baer was, by every account I have read, the CIA's most effective officer in the Middle East during his 21 year career. I highly recommend this book and Baer's "See No Evil: The True Story of a Ground Soldier in the CIA's War on Terrorism" for anybody interested in these topics... fascinating, entertaining and extremely informative stuff.

"The Osama bin Laden I Know: An Oral History of al Qaeda's Leader" and "Holy War, Inc." by Peter Bergen -- great, great books on Bin Laden and Al Qaeda. I don't know of anybody else who has done as much painstaking, carefully researched reporting on Bin Laden as has Bergen. Many books about Bin Laden devolve into little more than unfounded mythology and rumor, and Bergen's work is totally the opposite -- every single fact gives a reference, and his access to people who know and have worked with or against Bin Laden is simply amazing.

"The Cell: Inside the 9/11 Plot and Why the FBI and CIA Failed to Stop It" by John J. Miller, Michael Stone, and Chris Mitchell -- don't let the title give you the idea that this book is an over the top anti-FBI/CIA rant; these days John Miller serves as one of the assistant directors of the FBI...

I've read some other decent books on the subject of Iraq, the 'war on terror,' etc., but the above are definitely the cream of the crop.

Yeah you've got that right my friend...big business is the winner in Iraq. The End.

And all of those that fall for "the Iraqi people deserved freedom" bullshit are just goddamn gullible. Use your fucking head. America could give a flying fuck if some poor bastard in the middle of a deserted desert has voting rights. America does what suits her...period. Last I checked, the Saudis and Egyptians didn't have it so good...the common folk that is...not the royal family. But we're too tight with them so there will be slap on the wrist for them.

Terrorists won the war, already.

I agree totally. Its a shame how things have turned out.

Please head to your nearest army recruiter and sign on the dotted line then.

FACT: U R A Pussy.

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If you don't want to be criticized for what you think, then why are you posting your opinions on a public board?

Also, since you admit that your'e not an expert, why is everyone who disagrees with you an imbecile? Do you have any idea how funny it is to see a complete idiot calling everyone else an imbecile?

yeah well that's the point isn't it? Did these people 'need' killing? And aren't you damning yourself to hell (at least metaphorically) if they didn't?

No, they're not 'just' as guilty. They didn't start the war and they'd clearly like to be out, but you can't just quit once it's started. It's not that simple. I find that most people who think they're too smart to choose one party or the other are usually pretty simple minded, when it comes right down to it.

ROFL, you're calling independent voters simple minded for NOT getting sucked into the left VS right bullshit?

If it makes you feel better about being tricked over and over by both of them, great. But you're still an idiot.

I'd say anyone who sees either of these political parties and thinks 'wow I want to join them' must be one clueless dumbfuck. :2 cents:

Having trouble expressing yourself? Yeah, most independents are idiots, as are most 'libertarians', especially because I've yet to meet a libertarian outside of Bob Barr who wasn't just a conservative too embarassed to admit to it. The spectrum of opinion is fairly well represented, if you like bicameral representative govt., by the two parties. Calling yourself independent or even worse, libertarian, is the mark of a mind so insecure that it has to try to tell us all how 'special' you are, and how much smarter you are than everyone else, which 99 times out of 100 is something done by crushingly stupid people.

Anyone who gets elected is in the system, and this is a two party system, and the only way to get things done in this system is thru the party structure.