Obama is a radical racist un-american muslim who will negotiate with terrorists...
 

I'm constantly impressed with just how adept the rebublicans are at implying things that will end up sticking.. Just listened to Romney and he never specifically said that Obama would negotiate with terrorists but he sure as hell implied it several times.

And what do the dems do? yak yak yak... Just saying it ain't so isn't going to be enough to convince the ones that are more likely to buy into it.

And Bush's speach.. masterfull.. why did he say that in Israel? Cause he knows that they send a shit load of money back here to the states and that they can have a large influence on the Jews in the US. And all the press etc. is all over it as a slam against Obama but fail to see the bigger picture... Typical.

Republicans have practically perfected the art of dirty politics while the dems run around wringing their hands and whining and the press flop around on their marionette strings..

Republicans and Democrats... two sides of the same coin.

American should remain strong militarily, but not arrogant.

However, should we talk to our perceived enemies? Yes, give 'em a chance to work things out. No one wants war except those who don't know the hell that it is. If Iran or North Korea or whoever gets aggressive and is a REAL threat to Nat'l security, then we go. Iraq and Saddam were not a threat and the war in Iraq is all about money and oil. Alot of people are making money off this illegal war.

The real heroes are the everyday men and women serving in the military. Real soldiers pray that war never comes.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZSRxNPqqUH4

https://youtube.com/watch?v=pJvRUL81ZU8

Actually the Dem's would favor trying to negotiate with Islamic Extremists, which basically will result in more terrorism. Democrats think negotiating gets things done and in most civilised cases this is true.

However Islamic Extremists are not quite at the level.

It is funny that Democrats and liberal's think negotiation and dialog fixes everything.

oh , we should blow shit up and ask questions later. Guess you haven't realized our bully ways are getting us fucked up and now other countries are doing more push-ups and sit-ups so they become more resourceful to fuck us up...maybe we should nuke them all/ Then we would all be dead genius

Why is the US bombing other countries "war" and when they fight back it's called "terrorism"?

This is a great example of how American minds have been twisted.

Wake up people, we have invaded an entire region of the world, bases across several countries, over a good period time. They have told us time and time again, leave our holy lands and we will not bother you. But we keep pushing, keep taking oil, keep laying pipes, showing no sign of backing off.

You would be the terrorist too, if someone invaded America and occupied regions of it and tried to enforce total control over the region, that they don't own.

This administration and any President that continues to occupy those lands will continue to bring terrorism to America.

America looks like the Bad guy to almost all countries right now, it's odd that our own people can't see what they are doing wrong.

I think everything is a little more complicated than that. A lot of those bases are there because the local governments support/need them to keep control of their countries.

If these 'extremists' actually took control of power, as the case with Hamas, they'd have to realize that a lot of the things they were fighting for were just propaganda spewed by old men

It's not any more complicated than that. It's actually, even more simple than that.

Not all of our bases need to be moved or shut down, just the bases on holy land. We built the bases here because of the lack of war and terror that happens on these lands.

If the local gov has 'asked' us for help, we aren't occupy anything. When we came in and say, we are building a base here, you can't fly here, we own these roads now too. That's occupying and that's what we are doing in 80% of the region, holy lands or not.

I have come to the conclusion you are just a semi retarded idiot.

So America just goes to any country, tells them they're building a base, and that's it?

I'm not being snarky, i'm just trying to figure out if you think that's how it works

Well the war didn't fix anything at all, the situation has just become more dangerous and fucked up. You cannot fight against terrorists by invading another country and harming civilians. You only create more anger and hate against the USA this way. Or how would you feel if some Arabic country would invade America (if America was the weaker country) just because a few 1000 people were "terrorists".

I can't wait until the_truth_will_hurts gets here

translation : the dictators of those countries want the $$$ ( brings to mind Saddam ... lol )

Older then McCain ???? impossible ... :1orglaugh

Not so direct, but in general that is what we did.

We have had some type of conflict in that region, one way or another, over the last 30 years, almost every year. And little by little, from helping terrorists by putting them in power, to just invading areas, to helping local gov keep power or helping them get over thrown, we have worked our way heavily into the region.

Or better yet... Rely on your own sources of oil or those from friendly countries so that it wasn't a national security issue that required the building of bases etc. to control that area of the world.

I totally agree.

We wouldn't have had to worry about that if we didn't allow the Corps to lobby the Gov with dirty hookers and money.

The real problem is Hippies, everyone knows it's the damn Hippies.

The war fixed alot of shit.
It told the Islamic shit fuck heads that we mean business and won't hesitate to fucking kill them where ever they are. I think that pretty much got the point accross.

Maybe you liberal's would have liked a few more buildings in New York to fry before trying to negotiate some stupid shit or gasp acknowldge there is a terrorism problem...

Just incase some of you forgot them fuckers want to kill us all and when they get the chance to do it they will always try.

Stop saying liberal as if you know the meaning. We are not talking economic policy here but you wouldnt know the difference.

I'm not liberal, at all.. I'm logical, which is far better than the bs conservative stance some people lock their minds into.

Aye, I understand some buildings got taken down, however I don't understand why we invaded the entire country of Afgan, for a group that occupied a region. Or how that has anything to do with the Iraq War?

He won't ever get here, LC has been banned again.

The next election will have alot to do with with the War's in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Sorry you think anything else is more important than the foundations of America's belief in Indivual freedom's and rights.

You probably think the terrorist problem would just go away LOL!

Is the concept that countries are helping and training and influencing Islamic Radicals to mobilise against American interests even occured to you?

No, he is a FULL retarded .... :2 cents:

I don't remember the Islamic Radical in Oklahoma but I do remember terrorism, is that concept past you?

Terrorism is in every country, race, religion, hell it's in our school yards. And nobody cared to fight us until we started force "our way of thinking and beliefs" on to those attacking us.

Wouldn't you be pissed if some other country/religion was trying to force the way they think and work on you? Ohhhh, wait you are.. It's call Islam but the group that hates us is called Radicals for killing people... aren't we doing the same thing? So are the terrorists to them?

Do you have any idea how much freedom America lost within the last 8 years? The government creates fear of terrorism just to be able to pass new laws like the "USA PATRIOT ACT" (Uniting and Strengthening America by Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism Act).
How many terrorist attacks were there? I only know of one and I wouldn't be surprised if it was an inside job. Or why didn't they get Osama the "number 1 enemy" yet? Because they don't want to find him!!!

It's always fun watching rational people try and reason with nut cases.

its more fun to watch uneducated ^ people try to act like they know what they are talking about....

its great to have an opinion, but why not have your own instead of recycling what the media tells you.. :thumbsup

That's funny coming from you...

why is that funny coming from me?

Yeah, Obama is just a radical Islamist plant in our government. His goal is to become president and then totally destroy the US. The most diabolical plan in the history of mankind.

Like that could ever happen. Give me a break. Republicans are generally not very smart, but implying this garbage like they do... I am just speechless.

The IRA, supported by a lot of Americans even when they were bombing the streets of London and killing innocents, never gave up until the British Government negotiated with them. Other examples are all over the world to see and even the US won it's Independence from Britain with terrorism.

The Palestinians have genuine grievances. The country they lived in was taken over by European Jews and they were made second class citizens. Even when they were given their own country it is invaded by Israelis using any pretexts to take the land. Yes occupying land for "defence" does not include putting farms on it.

These grievances need to be resolved. The illegal invasion and occupation of Iraq needs to be resolved, if it can be, by negotiating with the people who will ive in the country after the West has gone.

Fortunately for most of the Muslim leaders they know what side their bread is buttered, the West side, and will make sure it stays buttered and often they will look after it if you spread some jam for them.

But you have to talk to them because killing them all is not an option.

Even Saddam could not manage that.