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SABAI 10-14-2002 01:38 PM

CIA the real terrorists?
 
I just wonder, strange things happened this week...
France and germany don't want to say "yes" at the UN security council for the USA to invade Iraq and BAM as by miracle al jezira (emirates tv) releases an al quaida message saying that they are gonna make bombings in france and germany.....france still stands firm on its refusal and BAM a french tanker is hit in yemen .
USA has problems with indonesia because they accept islamist leaders on their territory and BAM a nightclub is bombed ,so much for a coincidence, and last but not least kuwait hesitates to leave full movement latitude to US troops on their territory and as by enchantement some GI's get shot by "muslims" in kuwait....

too many things that happen at the right moment for my taste...

its smells like manipulation !!

:mad:

KingK7 10-14-2002 01:40 PM

It smells like bullshit, and it's coming from you...
Take another Prozac and go to bed.

KingK7 10-14-2002 01:41 PM

France.... figures...

http://www.heggmedia.com/pics/la.gif

SABAI 10-14-2002 01:43 PM

king 7,
take out your blinds and wake up to the world :Graucho

KingK7 10-14-2002 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SABAI
king 7,
take out your blinds and wake up to the world :Graucho

Let me guess, you are the author of that "what REALLY happened on 9/11" book?

The real world isnt ALWAYS like in your role-playing games, Jean-Pierre, YOU wake up :)

KingK7 10-14-2002 01:50 PM

Hahaha, oh man...

This your site?

Good sales pitch you have on the bottom of that page!

theking 10-14-2002 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SABAI
I just wonder, strange things happened this week...
France and germany don't want to say "yes" at the UN security council for the USA to invade Iraq and BAM as by miracle al jezira (emirates tv) releases an al quaida message saying that they are gonna make bombings in france and germany.....france still stands firm on its refusal and BAM a french tanker is hit in yemen .
USA has problems with indonesia because they accept islamist leaders on their territory and BAM a nightclub is bombed ,so much for a coincidence, and last but not least kuwait hesitates to leave full movement latitude to US troops on their territory and as by enchantement some GI's get shot by "muslims" in kuwait....

too many things that happen at the right moment for my taste...

its smells like manipulation !!

:mad:

Even if all of your inferences were true, there is nothing you or the world can do about it except to infer and whine.

EscortBiz 10-14-2002 01:58 PM

why worry about shit you can't do anything about regardless what you think.

Spend some time on things that you have control of like a site or your cock or something

Pipecrew 10-14-2002 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KingK7
Hahaha, oh man...

This your site?

Good sales pitch you have on the bottom of that page!


hahaha the best part is he is an affiliate, wonder if anyone has ever signed up :1orglaugh

SABAI 10-14-2002 02:00 PM

listen,
i read did this book and i think its pure bullshit but what is taking place now is different....

george "mongoloid" bush needs France and Germany to line up with him because he knows that if he says fuck to the UN resolutions and attack iraq anyway, he is gonna be in big trouble and it wouldn't be a smart diplomatic move (if only he knew what diplomacy is)...so he has to find ways to persude them to accept the move on iraq....but the thing is that iraq is not an islamic state (he didn't even know that the dumb donkey) .
the only thing he wants is the oil ressources to be controled by american companies (same scheme than with afghanistan where the CIA installed Amid Karzai who used to work in USA for Exxon, in order to have the clearance for the huge pipeline which the CIA former best friends named the talibans did not want to do)


you have to read more newspapers and stop watching cnn if you want to understand world's politics :winkwink:

SABAI 10-14-2002 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KingK7
Hahaha, oh man...

This your site?

Good sales pitch you have on the bottom of that page!

as incredible as it may seem i got signups to it...and yes i'm an affiliate...only a fool would put a link without the refcode:Graucho

SABAI 10-14-2002 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by EscortBiz
why worry about shit you can't do anything about regardless what you think.

Spend some time on things that you have control of like a site or your cock or something


i don't have control on my cock anymore ARF!:Graucho

ChrisH 10-14-2002 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SABAI



i don't have control on my cock anymore ARF!:Graucho

It seems that you don't have control over your thought process either.

But you're French so I understand. :thumbsup

SABAI 10-14-2002 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ChrisH


It seems that you don't have control over your thought process either.

But you're French so I understand. :thumbsup

basic racism !

Manny The Freak 10-14-2002 04:04 PM

The real terrorists are the church and their laws who are they to tell people what is wrong and what is not.:thumbsup

stanton 10-14-2002 04:15 PM

DAAAMN!!

SABAI YOU ARE A SMART PERSON

I TOTALY AGREE WITH YOU!!

insidethegame 10-14-2002 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SABAI


basic racism !

I didnt know the french were a race..i just thought they were winey chicken shit little frogs;)

Chichio 10-14-2002 04:57 PM

I believe the CIA made the sun come up this morning.

It's going down right now. Stay tunned, this could be the next plot.

Tex Willer 10-14-2002 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by insidethegame


I didnt know the french were a race..i just thought they were winey chicken shit little frogs;)

every nation has its bad moments
it obviously takes just a few wrong people, put at important places in critical times, to make Marne and Verdun forgotten forever

Fire 10-14-2002 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SABAI

george "mongoloid" bush needs France and Germany to line up with him because he knows that if he says fuck to the UN resolutions and attack iraq anyway, he is gonna be in big trouble

if he says "fuck the UN" then what is gonna happen?
the elite french panzies are gonna kick our ass?
germany is gonna refuse the money we send them?
will germany and france remove themselves from nato and provide for their own defense?

it doesn't matter what the french, germans, or UN think or do. Bush has an obligation to the US and the security of it's citizens and if you don't like it, well, thats just tough!

GFY :321GFY

stanton 10-14-2002 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fire


if he says "fuck the UN" then what is gonna happen?
the elite french panzies are gonna kick our ass?
germany is gonna refuse the money we send them?
will germany and france remove themselves from nato and provide for their own defense?

it doesn't matter what the french, germans, or UN think or do. Bush has an obligation to the US and the security of it's citizens and if you don't like it, well, thats just tough!

GFY :321GFY

haaaa
ok i agree on frenchies that they are not fighters but they are lovers

but i am sure that germany can defend itself without problems

dont forget that they almost kicked everyone asses twice

and they did not just bomb some arabians on camels from the sky, they took over almost all the europe and africa

cgiGeek 10-14-2002 06:30 PM

France is were terrorists go on holiday.

SABAI 10-14-2002 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by stanton
DAAAMN!!

SABAI YOU ARE A SMART PERSON

I TOTALY AGREE WITH YOU!!

sounds a bit sarcastic :winkwink:

stanton 10-14-2002 06:39 PM

ahha no its not!

Pleasurepays 10-14-2002 06:41 PM

France has a multi-billion dollar trade relationship with Iraq and Iraq owes them piles of money - regime change could negate all that debt.

Russia has a multi-billion dollar trade relationship with Iraq and Iraq owes them something like 9,000,000,000.00 in Soviet era debt

China - same deal.

Germany made a few remarks at election time. then changed its position after the election

i suppose that its ok to say that Bush is in it for the Oil.. but Russia, China and France object for reasons other than financial ones?

Russia and China are not exactly known for their concern about human rights

SABAI 10-14-2002 06:43 PM

anyway i can bet that within a month there is some stuff happening in europe...either france or germany ....
and Fire,
france don't recieve any money from USA exept from tourists and exports (but french products are over taxed anyway)..
also i'm not talking about europe attacking USA but talking about diplomatic trouble with the rest of the world you ignorant redneck....

to make myself clear i'm not pro french at all (i hate the faschist new government, our interior minister must be George bush's hidden twin)

Pleasurepays 10-14-2002 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SABAI
anyway i can bet that within a month there is some stuff happening in europe...either france or germany ....
and Fire,
france don't recieve any money from USA exept from tourists and exports (but french products are over taxed anyway)..
also i'm not talking about europe attacking USA but talking about diplomatic trouble with the rest of the world you ignorant redneck....

to make myself clear i'm not pro french at all (i hate the faschist new government, our interior minister must be George bush's hidden twin)

I love Paris and i especially love the South of France and Monaco. France is a really beautiful country. people are nice to you if you speak French, dont speak english or they think you are not American. :)

Chichio 10-14-2002 06:49 PM

SABAI,

I do understand your point.

Have you read this one:

http://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/meast/...ent/index.html

If we are to believe the CIA is behind everything, would you also say that they are releasing "Bin Ladin" messages.

It's a bit of a stretch.

SABAI 10-14-2002 06:55 PM

its interesting,
but it says
"A statement attributed to Osama bin Laden"

but no ones actually knows if he's alive and noone can trace the origin of such messages....
i could plant a bomb somewhere and send a message signed "ben ladden" to al jezira ...:2 cents:

PornoBug 10-14-2002 06:55 PM

Conspiracy theories always abound in times of uncertainty however do not forget that sometimes Governments do act illegally for their own purposes:

3 examples.

1. French Secret Agents blew up the Rainbow Warrior (A ship owned by Greenpeace) in New Zealand on the night of 10 July 1985. One person was killed and several were injured.

2. The Australian Secret Intelligence Organization and the NSW Police Special Branch have been linked to the 1978 Sydney Hilton Hotel bombing, for those who are not aware of its details, this involved a bomb being planned in a garbage bin outside the Sydney Hilton resulting in a policeman being killed. The motive was to justify the existence of these agencies at a time this was being questioned by Government. A man, Tim Anderson, was framed and jailed for this - he was later released on appeal after a massive amount of evidence was uncovered pointing to his framing.

3. Watergate. The US Administration of Richard Nixon and some of the US Intelligence and Security community were involved in this now infamous example of how things can go terribly wrong, even in a democracy like the USA.

I have no doubt Al Queda planned and carried out the Sept 11 attacks, of course the Osama Bin Laden was behind this, he did after all claim responsibility.

Al Queda could have been involved in the most recent terrorist attacks, however I will keep an open mind until I see evidence. I am more of the thinking that the recent attacks in Bali were carried out by a localised Indonesian group. Indonesia has been unstable for years.

SABAI 10-14-2002 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sexfind
Conspiracy theories always abound in times of uncertainty however do not forget that sometimes Governments do act illegally for their own purposes:

3 examples.

1. French Secret Agents blew up the Rainbow Warrior (A ship owned by Greenpeace) in New Zealand on the night of 10 July 1985. One person was killed and several were injured.

2. The Australian Secret Intelligence Organization and the NSW Police Special Branch have been linked to the 1978 Sydney Hilton Hotel bombing, for those who are not aware of its details, this involved a bomb being planned in a garbage bin outside the Sydney Hilton resulting in a policeman being killed. The motive was to justify the existence of these agencies at a time this was being questioned by Government. A man, Tim Anderson, was framed and jailed for this - he was later released on appeal after a massive amount of evidence was uncovered pointing to his framing.

3. Watergate. The US Administration of Richard Nixon and some of the US Intelligence and Security community were involved in this now infamous example of how things can go terribly wrong, even in a democracy like the USA.

I have no doubt Al Queda planned and carried out the Sept 11 attacks, of course the Osama Bin Laden was behind this, he did after all claim responsibility.

Al Queda could have been involved in the most recent terrorist attacks, however I will keep an open mind until I see evidence. I am more of the thinking that the recent attacks in Bali were carried out by a localised Indonesian group. Indonesia has been unstable for years.


Finally an intelligent and well thought answer with wich i agree
totally
great post:thumbsup

UnseenWorld 10-14-2002 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SABAI
I just wonder, strange things happened this week...
France and germany don't want to say "yes" at the UN security council for the USA to invade Iraq and BAM as by miracle al jezira (emirates tv) releases an al quaida message saying that they are gonna make bombings in france and germany.....france still stands firm on its refusal and BAM a french tanker is hit in yemen .
USA has problems with indonesia because they accept islamist leaders on their territory and BAM a nightclub is bombed ,so much for a coincidence, and last but not least kuwait hesitates to leave full movement latitude to US troops on their territory and as by enchantement some GI's get shot by "muslims" in kuwait....

too many things that happen at the right moment for my taste...

its smells like manipulation !!

:mad:


Gosh, and I bet Messrs Chirac, de Villepin, and Sarkozy are totally clueless, too. I think you'd better get on the phone right now. They don't know what a great resource they have in their adult webmasters, do they?

Fire 10-14-2002 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SABAI
Fire,
france don't recieve any money from USA exept from tourists and exports (but french products are over taxed anyway)..
also i'm not talking about europe attacking USA but talking about diplomatic trouble with the rest of the world you ignorant redneck....


thats a nice way of debating. Call me an ignorant redneck for saying something that I didn't say? I implied that we still sent money to Germany (upon some further research I may have been mistaken. I can admit when I'm wrong.)
But who is the not so bright one here? I said Germany so how does that equal france? Maybe you french are so used to German occupation that you just consider yourselves a subset of Germany? I guess that explains how Germany = france!

As far as the diplomatic trouble, having you guys wag your finger at us and saying "you shouldn't do that" is really going to give us such a big problem!

archer 10-14-2002 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ChrisH


It seems that you don't have control over your thought process either.

But you're French so I understand. :thumbsup


:1orglaugh :1orglaugh one the best comebacks, i've seen in a long while!.

who needs the french anyway? when was the last time they actually won a war all on their own?

they've been fucked by the germans without lube every time ever since Napoleon

PornoDoggy 10-14-2002 10:48 PM

SABAI, I gotta tell you ... I think the tinfoil on your head (the stuff you put there to keep CIA control waves from dominating your brain) is wrapped a little too tight.

Yes, I'm an American, but I'm not some French-bashing moron who believes he has a right to brag about the accomplishments of his father or grandfather 60 years ago without a clue as to what happened before December 1941. I wouldn't trust GW with Jerry Falwell's collection plate, either, and find this "we're gonna do what we want when we want to" more that a little dangerous for the future of my country and its relations with the rest of the world, not to mention the precedent it sets for other countries to act unilaterally.

That being said, if you seriously believe that 9/11 was anything other than a terrorist attack you've spent to many hours learning about America by watching Jerry Lewis movies. If you have the knowledge of world affairs you profess, you would find a terrorist attack against a primarily Australian target in the Indonesian province of Bali far less suspicious than you make it out to be. Finally, as you may be aware, your nation has certain amount of history in the region that pre-dates the involvement of the U.S., and I serously doubt you have a great many "Friends of France" among the true believers; an attack on a French ship is not suprising in the least.

Do not fear, however ... Elvis will come on his space ship and take you away before the real trouble comes and the CIA can manipulate your brain ...

SABAI 10-14-2002 11:09 PM

Quote:

"That being said, if you seriously believe that 9/11 was anything other than a terrorist attack
dude,
i never said such a thing i was talking about the past two weeks events:warning...

also i'm not speaking as being french....i would be from lichtenchtein i would think the same.....


guys stop speaking about "oh we american are the tougher and we will crush your miserable french ass "

i don't care about wich country do what , but more about what a government deeply involved with a chimp as a president is ready to do not to loose face and go tru their goal without have diplomatic trouble , not just with france but with the rest of the world....

for those questioning when france last won a war, what kind of diversion is that? stay on the subject....i don't speak about the vietnam war or about american GI's in afghanfuckingstan who are claiming that they are into a second nam...

ok must go now coz my tin foil is falling out and i will miss elvis's call....
:winkwink:

edmo 10-14-2002 11:12 PM

Fuck the United Nations.

SABAI 10-14-2002 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by edmo
Fuck the United Nations.
lol

PornoDoggy 10-14-2002 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SABAI


ok must go now coz my tin foil is falling out and i will miss elvis's call....
:winkwink:

He always gets really pissed at me when I'm late ...

DragonAss 10-15-2002 04:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sexfind
I have no doubt Al Queda planned and carried out the Sept 11 attacks, of course the Osama Bin Laden was behind this, he did after all claim responsibility.
When did OBL claim responsibility?

Damn, I never should've made that bowl out of my tinfoil hat. :stoned

dacash 10-15-2002 05:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fire


if he says "fuck the UN" then what is gonna happen?
the elite french panzies are gonna kick our ass?
germany is gonna refuse the money we send them?
will germany and france remove themselves from nato and provide for their own defense?

it doesn't matter what the french, germans, or UN think or do. Bush has an obligation to the US and the security of it's citizens and if you don't like it, well, thats just tough!

GFY :321GFY

Hey not to be out of the subject, but look at the numbers
1 China 1,279,160,885 <-- i don't think they like the US
2 India 1,034,172,547 <-- they are just starving
3 United States 287,675,526 <-- they think they are GI Jane
4 Indonesia 231,326,092 <-- what is that?
5 Brazil 179,914,212 <-- Go soccer go
6 Pakistan 147,663,429 <-- They must love the US
7 Russia 144,978,573 <-- I'm jsure they love the US
8 Bangladesh 135,656,790 <-- is that a country?
9 Nigeria 130,499,978 <-- i know someone from there
10 Japan 127,065,841 <-- They must LOVE THE US SO MUCH
11 Mexico 103,400,165 <-- taco bell anyone?
12 Philippines 82,995,088 <-- i'm sure they love the states
13 Germany 82,350,671 <-- When Canadian planes break down, we get stuff from them
14 Vietnam 80,577,466 <-- They won a war agsainst the US
15 Egypt 73,312,559 <-- they don't like the US to much either
16 Iran 67,538,065 <-- They said Screw the US last week
17 Turkey 67,308,928 <-- Thanks giving?
18 Ethiopia 65,253,938 <-- What is a EThiopoa?
19 Thailand 63,645,250 <-- They made my Cell
20 France 59,925,035 <-- Don't agree with the US
21 United Kingdom 59,912,431 <-- Stupid queen was in Canada last week :(


all of you Amreican, look on those stats and tell me which country that loves you so much taht wouldn't want to hurt you?

China has 4 times your population, and is China on you side?

Just wondering


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