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  • DWB
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    • Jul 2003
    • 31779

    #1

    To most of you shooting in HD - it looks like shit.

    I'm appalled at how many (not all) of you are running sites bragging about "HD" and your content looks like ass. You can't simply swap out your camera for an HD cam and expect it to look great without adjustments. For starters you need a lot more light than you're used to. Hence why so many of the content looks darker than it should. What is the point of shooting in HD if it looks like shit?

    Secondly, choose your models better. The point of HD is that it sees EVERYTHING. That means when you hire models with jacked up legs, scars, stretch marks or has a hairy body, IT SHOWS IT!!!

    I'm not going to name any names but I'm seeing some top programs who was shooting KILLER content before, now have dark and lifeless looking videos.

    I'll end this rant by saying that I can't stand downloading HD videos anyway. They are too big and unless you are on a blazing connection, they just take too long. I'm sitting here with my cock on my hand, wanting to cum, and it takes a fucking hour to download some of these videos. Pornography is an impulse industry. That means guys want INSTANT gratification. Translated, men want to cum RIGHT NOW, not in an hour. Those of you with cocks should know what I'm talking about.

  • After Shock Media
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    • Mar 2001
    • 35299

    #2
    I will say it again. The vast majority of porn is not made for HD.

    I really think the only HD porn that should be shot is features with a budget big enough to have a staff of makeup people armed with gallons of coverup, buckets of powder, an air brush in one hand and a paint brush in the other.

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    • Kroy
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      • Sep 2005
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      #3
      I'm agreeing with you but keep in mind that HD doesn't necessarily mean more lights are needed. It depends on the camera and its light sensitivity.
      Also, there are many ways to minimize flaws when shooting in HD.
      And I'm not talking rotoscoping each frame, either ~
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      • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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        • Mar 2003
        • 30307

        #4
        I Invented Near HD.

        I also invented that if HD is online its not true HD.
        However I invented the concept of what you are saying and I agree or I would not have invented it.

        Alot of HD content out there looks like ass.

        I Invented ass as well.
        Last edited by AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE; 04-18-2008, 01:47 AM.

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        • Mutt
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • Sep 2002
          • 34431

          #5
          i really don't like porn so far shot in HD - and Alien is right, it's not even real HD - the pseudo HD files are too fucking big already for your average cable or DSL user.

          you could shoot SD video in 16:9 and encode using a moderately high bitrate and call it HD and nobody on the web would know the difference. there are some sites who do exactly that.
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          • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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            • Mar 2003
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            #6
            16:9 Ftw!

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            • DWB
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              • Jul 2003
              • 31779

              #7
              Originally posted by Kroy
              I'm agreeing with you but keep in mind that HD doesn't necessarily mean more lights are needed. It depends on the camera and its light sensitivity.
              Also, there are many ways to minimize flaws when shooting in HD.
              And I'm not talking rotoscoping each frame, either ~
              Agreed. My point was that you have to know what you are doing rather than just swapping out one cam for another and continue shooting as is.

              I personally don't shoot in HD. I don't think, nor do my current clients, that trannys look especially good in HD. Most of them have jacked up legs and body hair somewhere. The illusion of TS is better off in not so much detail.

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              • DWB
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                • Jul 2003
                • 31779

                #8
                Originally posted by AlienQ
                I Invented Near HD.

                I also invented that if HD is online its not true HD.
                However I invented the concept of what you are saying and I agree or I would not have invented it.

                Alot of HD content out there looks like ass.

                I Invented ass as well.
                And I humbly thank you for inventing such thoughts and allowing them to freely flow into my brain, which there are rumors that you may have also invented.

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                • L-Pink
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                  • Mar 2005
                  • 39151

                  #9
                  Most real fucking happens with mood lighting ..... for a reason.

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                  • sicone
                    Retired
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 18453

                    #10
                    If I truly wanted HD porn I'd fuck my own lady with my eyes open


                    Porn is a fantasy, please dont show us the true to life flaws. I can see those on the average ho at the 7-11

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                    • Shoehorn!
                      Die With Your Boots On
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 22872

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Kroy
                      I'm agreeing with you but keep in mind that HD doesn't necessarily mean more lights are needed. It depends on the camera and its light sensitivity.
                      Also, there are many ways to minimize flaws when shooting in HD.
                      And I'm not talking rotoscoping each frame, either ~
                      The trailers and editing work on your site is awesome.

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                      • sicone
                        Retired
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 18453

                        #12
                        btw.. dont get me wrong.. i love some of the shit shot by some out doors with the natural lights, sky, clouds and shit. Some of that shit rocks (catilyst (sp) ) but the video on the actual porn sets.. fuck me... are you serious

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                        • DWB
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                          • Jul 2003
                          • 31779

                          #13
                          Originally posted by sicone
                          If I truly wanted HD porn I'd fuck my own lady with my eyes open

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                          • Grapesoda
                            So Fucking Banned
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 46234

                            #14
                            Originally posted by DirtyWhiteBoy
                            I'm appalled at how many (not all) of you are running sites bragging about "HD" and your content looks like ass. You can't simply swap out your camera for an HD cam and expect it to look great without adjustments. For starters you need a lot more light than you're used to. Hence why so many of the content looks darker than it should. What is the point of shooting in HD if it looks like shit?

                            Secondly, choose your models better. The point of HD is that it sees EVERYTHING. That means when you hire models with jacked up legs, scars, stretch marks or has a hairy body, IT SHOWS IT!!!

                            I'm not going to name any names but I'm seeing some top programs who was shooting KILLER content before, now have dark and lifeless looking videos.

                            I'll end this rant by saying that I can't stand downloading HD videos anyway. They are too big and unless you are on a blazing connection, they just take too long. I'm sitting here with my cock on my hand, wanting to cum, and it takes a fucking hour to download some of these videos. Pornography is an impulse industry. That means guys want INSTANT gratification. Translated, men want to cum RIGHT NOW, not in an hour. Those of you with cocks should know what I'm talking about.

                            gee, sorry to hear that stud muffin.... the HD I shoot looks FUCKING AWESOME!!!!!!!!! -bmb

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                            • DWB
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                              • Jul 2003
                              • 31779

                              #15
                              Originally posted by bm bradley
                              gee, sorry to hear that stud muffin.... the HD I shoot looks FUCKING AWESOME!!!!!!!!! -bmb
                              I haven't seen yours but if it looks awesome, consider yourself one of the few. Though based on past posts you have made about your knowledge about production, I'd guess yours would look good.

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                              • Jay-Rock
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by DirtyWhiteBoy
                                I haven't seen yours but if it looks awesome, consider yourself one of the few. Though based on past posts you have made about your knowledge about production, I'd guess yours would look good.
                                My HD stuff its well lit and looks good however Im using the HVX 200 and it requires alot of light which is the pain becasue of the small 1/3 inch CCDS New cameras are coming out that have bigger 1/2 inch chips which Im soon moving to. The HD cameras on the market have some great skin softening filters that work wonders. Most shooters don't know how to use this but it works great. You guys may not appreciate HD right now but they stopped making SDTVs so you will only be able to upconvert your old videos which will look like shit, while us HD guys will be able to watch our shit in HD. You guys need to think about the future and where your content will be shown. One day your home computer may be displayed on your HDTV, that SD will look like shit compare to the HD stuff.

                                DIVX has a way to watch your HD content on your HDTV already.

                                http://www.divx.com/connected/

                                this is the future of porn since I believe one day that we will view everything on an HDTV display.
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                                • Jay-Rock
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                                  #17
                                  Watch and of your HD internet content on your TV with one of these bad boys.


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                                  • Allhdreview - Jasin
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                                    #18
                                    I agree with what DirtyWhiteBoy says, for the most part. There is a lot of programs thinking they can jump on the 'hd bandwagon' and produce widescreen videos with their handycams that look like complete pixelated shit.

                                    However, some sponsors do get it right

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                                    • Jens Van Assterdam
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                                      • Feb 2008
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                                      #19
                                      i look great in HD!
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                                      • timebomb011
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                                        #20
                                        lets call a spade a spade. no one is shooting HD. everyone is shooting HDV.

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                                        • Cyndalie
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by L-Pink
                                          Most real fucking happens with mood lighting ..... for a reason.
                                          So True!
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                                          • J. Falcon
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                                            • May 2006
                                            • 31587

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by DirtyWhiteBoy
                                            And I humbly thank you for inventing such thoughts and allowing them to freely flow into my brain, which there are rumors that you may have also invented.
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                                            • stickyfingerz
                                              Doin fine
                                              • Oct 2005
                                              • 24984

                                              #23
                                              HD for the pc is like brand new video games are for the pc. Usually the user if they want the FULL effect of the game need to upgrade hardware and possibly connection. If you think our connections will always be too slow to support viewing of full tilt hd video you are kidding yourself. What was your connection like in 1998? 56k for most if they were lucky. In 10 years its blown up. www.hulu.com for those in the U.S. I can watch videos on there full screen on my 22" widescreen monitors with no buffering at superb quality with no pixilation issues.

                                              Now sure there will be people having to adapt and how to properly shoot hd, and how to properly prepare models in order to shoot in that quality. If you think people are going to continue to be happy with their porn at 512k 320x240 you are deluded. If they can watch the office at 3360x1050 with out a glitch or a buffer do you think they will be happy on a paysite that can barely stream 640x480 at 1100k after a 2 minute buffer wait?

                                              Flash 3 and Silverlight both can deliver video amazingly fast with little to no buffer if on the proper network. Adult needs to continue to innovate or some mainstream company is going to step in and show us how things are done folks.


                                              CDN looks to me like a step in the right direction. Just my 2 cents on it.

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                                              • DWB
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                                                • Jul 2003
                                                • 31779

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Jay-Rock

                                                this is the future of porn since I believe one day that we will view everything on an HDTV display.
                                                No doubt its the future.

                                                Though as you said, most don't know how to use the cameras and it looks like shit now, and it will look like shit in 5 years and it will look like shit until they learn how to use it.

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                                                • s9ann0
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                                                  • Sep 2001
                                                  • 4873

                                                  #25
                                                  yea HD is overrated all round

                                                  I am sick of going on piratebay to download the latest movies and seeing 4GB HD rips

                                                  I would rather just have a 700mb file
                                                  Last edited by s9ann0; 04-18-2008, 06:57 AM.

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                                                  • DWB
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                                                    • Jul 2003
                                                    • 31779

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                                                    If you think people are going to continue to be happy with their porn at 512k 320x240 you are deluded. If they can watch the office at 3360x1050 with out a glitch or a buffer do you think they will be happy on a paysite that can barely stream 640x480 at 1100k after a 2 minute buffer wait?
                                                    I disagree with you here. Not every porn consumer cares about the latest technology. This industry is fast to forget it comes down to one thing, a hot girl (or whatever floats their boat). Nothing more, nothing less. Most consumers are not going to care if it's full screen, though it IS nice, or it's 640x480, the bottom line always boils down to a hot chick getting fucked or being sexy, in any format.

                                                    I personally like, and I know lots of people who also do, homemade porn. The more homemade the better. Camera on a tripod, real couples fucking, real sex. It doesn't matter to me if it's shitty footage on a cell phone (which is often the best) or its some shit cam picked up at Best Buy, it's ALWAYS going to boil down to a hot girl or hot sex. To go a step further, I hardly ever even look at videos anyway. I'm a PHOTO porn consumer above all and only yank to videos when I find a nice amateur movie of a hot girl that fits my need at that time.

                                                    Yes, there are guys who do crave the latest video formats and the largest photos, but I don't think the general public cares when they have a cock in their hand and want to wack off. There are guys who will join the HD and very high quality sites, and there will always be guys, like me, who will take anything they can get so long as it's real and not phony LA crap with porn stars.

                                                    To date my best selling, top converting, top retaining site has the worst content I have ever shot on it. Going on 5 years old, it STILL converts a under 1:400 and the average member stays for at least 3 - 5 months. Yes, still today. Nothing is of high quality on this site but it fits the niche that it's in, is exclusive and it updates on time. Never once has a member asked when we were going to start shooting in HD. I can't argue with the numbers, though I know my case is not the same as yours.

                                                    I'm just saying there are all kinds of porn consumers out there who are more than happy to watch anything they can get their hands on so long as it GETS THEM OFF!!! We can't assume that just because technology is going in one direction that all of our consumers will too. It's all about getting off to hot girls. Hell, they don't even have to be hot to you or me so long as they are hot to that consumer.

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                                                    • DWB
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                                                      • Jul 2003
                                                      • 31779

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by s9ann0
                                                      yea HD is overrated all round

                                                      I am sick of going on piratebay to download the latest movies and seeing 4GB HD rips

                                                      I would rather just have a 700mb file
                                                      Agreed.

                                                      Would you cum any harder or faster if your movie was in HD?

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                                                      • [ Nate ]
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by AlienQ

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                                                        • [ Nate ]
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by DirtyWhiteBoy
                                                          I personally like, and I know lots of people who also do, homemade porn. The more homemade the better. Camera on a tripod, real couples fucking, real sex. It doesn't matter to me if it's shitty footage on a cell phone (which is often the best) or its some shit cam picked up at Best Buy, it's ALWAYS going to boil down to a hot girl or hot sex.
                                                          Amen! I LOVE homemade porn. I can't even watch the 'produced' stuff anymore. If its not homemade, or a really convincing 'look a like' (grainy, low lit, etc), it won't work for me. My penis's time is way to important to waste it on high gloss porn.
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                                                          • RevengeBucks_Monica
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                                                            #30
                                                            While I feel what you have said about homemade porn is absolutely true, and you're right that there is a lot of HD out there being shot all wrong, resulting in crap... I think that there will always be an audience that demands high quality and wants the latest technology. These are the guys that are going to have fibre optic connections and have the speed it takes to get what they want FAST.

                                                            I think what we're seeing is just the beginnings of HD and it's potential and in time, there will be more and more HD done right.
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                                                            • Jay-Rock
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by timebomb011
                                                              lets call a spade a spade. no one is shooting HD. everyone is shooting HDV.
                                                              Im shooting HDVC PRO not HDV
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                                                              • Eman - PG
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                                                                • Nov 2003
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                                                                #32
                                                                We have full HD. Here's a true 1920x1080 screencap from our videos:

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                                                                • Kroy
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Shoehorn!
                                                                  The trailers and editing work on your site is awesome.
                                                                  Hey man I really appreciate that, thank you. Made my day bro
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                                                                  • stickyfingerz
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                                                                    • Oct 2005
                                                                    • 24984

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by DirtyWhiteBoy
                                                                    I disagree with you here. Not every porn consumer cares about the latest technology. This industry is fast to forget it comes down to one thing, a hot girl (or whatever floats their boat). Nothing more, nothing less. Most consumers are not going to care if it's full screen, though it IS nice, or it's 640x480, the bottom line always boils down to a hot chick getting fucked or being sexy, in any format.

                                                                    I personally like, and I know lots of people who also do, homemade porn. The more homemade the better. Camera on a tripod, real couples fucking, real sex. It doesn't matter to me if it's shitty footage on a cell phone (which is often the best) or its some shit cam picked up at Best Buy, it's ALWAYS going to boil down to a hot girl or hot sex. To go a step further, I hardly ever even look at videos anyway. I'm a PHOTO porn consumer above all and only yank to videos when I find a nice amateur movie of a hot girl that fits my need at that time.

                                                                    Yes, there are guys who do crave the latest video formats and the largest photos, but I don't think the general public cares when they have a cock in their hand and want to wack off. There are guys who will join the HD and very high quality sites, and there will always be guys, like me, who will take anything they can get so long as it's real and not phony LA crap with porn stars.

                                                                    To date my best selling, top converting, top retaining site has the worst content I have ever shot on it. Going on 5 years old, it STILL converts a under 1:400 and the average member stays for at least 3 - 5 months. Yes, still today. Nothing is of high quality on this site but it fits the niche that it's in, is exclusive and it updates on time. Never once has a member asked when we were going to start shooting in HD. I can't argue with the numbers, though I know my case is not the same as yours.

                                                                    I'm just saying there are all kinds of porn consumers out there who are more than happy to watch anything they can get their hands on so long as it GETS THEM OFF!!! We can't assume that just because technology is going in one direction that all of our consumers will too. It's all about getting off to hot girls. Hell, they don't even have to be hot to you or me so long as they are hot to that consumer.
                                                                    Well more or less what I was pointing out was when there are FREE mainstream sites pushing that kind of quality the consumer is going to become used to it. Then if they are PAYING for a service and it doesnt come close to what a free to consumer service is doing they might have reservations about that rebill.

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                                                                    • Halcyon
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                                                                      • Dec 2002
                                                                      • 8609

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by sicone
                                                                      If I truly wanted HD porn I'd fuck my own lady with my eyes open
                                                                      HAHAHAHA!!!

                                                                      classic.
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                                                                      • faxxaff
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                                                                        • Dec 2002
                                                                        • 2134

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by DirtyWhiteBoy
                                                                        AMost of them have jacked up legs and body hair somewhere. The illusion of TS is better off in not so much detail.
                                                                        Tasty :-) some backlight and it will shimmer :-) I will buy!!!!!
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                                                                        • payd2purv
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                                                                          • Jan 2008
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by DirtyWhiteBoy
                                                                          I'm appalled at how many (not all) of you are running sites bragging about "HD" and your content looks like ass. You can't simply swap out your camera for an HD cam and expect it to look great without adjustments. For starters you need a lot more light than you're used to. Hence why so many of the content looks darker than it should. What is the point of shooting in HD if it looks like shit?

                                                                          Secondly, choose your models better. The point of HD is that it sees EVERYTHING. That means when you hire models with jacked up legs, scars, stretch marks or has a hairy body, IT SHOWS IT!!!

                                                                          I'm not going to name any names but I'm seeing some top programs who was shooting KILLER content before, now have dark and lifeless looking videos.

                                                                          I'll end this rant by saying that I can't stand downloading HD videos anyway. They are too big and unless you are on a blazing connection, they just take too long. I'm sitting here with my cock on my hand, wanting to cum, and it takes a fucking hour to download some of these videos. Pornography is an impulse industry. That means guys want INSTANT gratification. Translated, men want to cum RIGHT NOW, not in an hour. Those of you with cocks should know what I'm talking about.



                                                                          Greatest post ever.

                                                                          might I add... Just because you call it HD doesn't mean it's HD....

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                                                                          • Sebastian Sands
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                                                                            • Mar 2005
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by Jay-Rock
                                                                            Im shooting HDVC PRO not HDV
                                                                            Same here, depending on the client of course.

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                                                                            • Jim_Gunn
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              I agree that trannys should be shot in standard def, since they look fucked up and hairy and mannish in sharp detail but as far as pretty girls, I would never go back to filming in SD at this point unless a client specifically insisted on it. Of course one has to hire pretty models without a lot of flaws, and generally use a lot of good quality and well placed lights, and hire a good makeup artist to properly show the detail when one shoots in HD. It also helps to know what you are doing with the video encoding aspect to make the resultant compressed files (WMV, QT etc) look as good as possible. I know my customers are happy with my efforts.

                                                                              Of course there are major trade offs in quality and file size. Yes the files are huge, but one can always split the video into clips and also offer a much smaller frame sized file like a 480 x 270 version at say 1500 Kbps bitrate or so. It still looks way better than if you had filmed in SD and exported at say 512 x 384, assuming that you lit the set properly and encoded it using the best codecs.

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                                                                              • marcop
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by timebomb011
                                                                                lets call a spade a spade. no one is shooting HD. everyone is shooting HDV.
                                                                                True... but let's be kind: most of them don't know the difference between HDV and HD anyway.

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                                                                                • subc
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  There's no real HD porn yet.

                                                                                  Just because your vids are 1280x720 it doesn't mean is true HD. A 3Mbps encode at this resolution looks like crap. Might as well stick with SD (and it will look better actually).

                                                                                  HD is all about resolution. Obviously the surfer will be watching most of the HD porn in their computers, so here: DE-INTERLACE... or shoot/edit progressive. I seriously don't understand how many big companies offer interlaced content in both SD/HD.

                                                                                  Then.. use a better codec, something like H264 maybe, you know... modern and able to keep HD detail at decent bitrates. And of course, bump the bitrate! at least 6Mbps re-encode to keep the quality up.

                                                                                  But what do I know. lol
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                                                                                  • faxxaff
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    A few weeks ago I bought a HDV camera and I am just playing around with it. So this other guy who is an affiliate manager of a very successful program looks at me while he screens my first attempts of shooting with the HDV camera and he tells me that screenshots from my cam will probably look better than most people's photos ..... I don't have the time to edit HD video, but maybe I should rather use screenshots of the camcorder than using a DSLR to shoot content!
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                                                                                    • payd2purv
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      I find a lot of the problem is not the person shooting the content but the person who encodes and hosts the content making it look like shit and killing it.

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                                                                                      • Kroy
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by timebomb011
                                                                                        lets call a spade a spade. no one is shooting HD. everyone is shooting HDV.
                                                                                        HDV is a recording format.
                                                                                        It's not another version of HD or sub-HD or anything like that.

                                                                                        Think of it as a way of getting HD.

                                                                                        There are many ways, like HDV, DVC Pro HD, AVCHD, and so on.

                                                                                        If you shoot using a HDV camera you will still get FULL HD.

                                                                                        Technically anything larger than standard TV format (simplified, in the US that's 720x 480) can be considered HD. (more info)

                                                                                        Consumers are usually confronted with two major resolutions:
                                                                                        1920x1080 (aka 1080i if footage is interlaced; 1080p if progressive)
                                                                                        and
                                                                                        1280 x 720 (almost always 720p - progressive)

                                                                                        However, there are many resolutions that can qualify as HD.

                                                                                        For example, if you look at a large number of TVs that are advertized as "High Definition" you'll notice that many are actually not displaying 1920x1080 but other resolutions.
                                                                                        That's still HD mind you.


                                                                                        One way of providing adult content via HD and still honor the fact that most consumers want immediate satisfaction is to provide the footage in different formats.
                                                                                        For example, I always published large resolution movies for download, and then another smaller version in Flash (with Flash Media Server, so everything played instantly without waiting).

                                                                                        Hope this helps a little
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                                                                                        • Jim_Gunn
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                                                                                          • Feb 2003
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by ymous
                                                                                          There's no real HD porn yet.

                                                                                          Just because your vids are 1280x720 it doesn't mean is true HD. A 3Mbps encode at this resolution looks like crap. Might as well stick with SD (and it will look better actually).
                                                                                          You are right that all footage should be deinterlaced for online use. But I think a lot of you HD naysayers are just trying to be contrarian. In my experience the amount and quality of light in the original production matters much more than the video bitrate alone. A 1280 x 720 WMV for example where the hdv footage was really well lit to begin with will look WAY better and have more detail which you can see especially in the hair and saliva and background even at a 3500 Kbps video bitrate than a standard def 640 x 480 SD file at the same bitrate will. It's a night and day difference that no one can mistake. Maybe you guys are looking at badly shot HD footage, but I know when I shoot HDV and take the time to light it correctly and encode it to the best of my ability even at a moderate bitrate to keep the file size down, there is no way that one could suggest that some comparably lit SD footage looks as good or better, on a 'ceteris paribus' comparison, that is all other things being equal.

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                                                                                          • VikingMan
                                                                                            Exploiting human weakness
                                                                                            • Jan 2008
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            interesting thread

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                                                                                            • Rochard
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                                                                                              • Dec 2001
                                                                                              • 75733

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              HD is shit.

                                                                                              I have a HD tv and HD cable. I don't need to see the newscasters fucking pores on their faces. It looks horrible.

                                                                                              Too much quality is not always a good thing.
                                                                                              Herschel Savage
                                                                                              Brooklyn, NY

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                                                                                              • Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life
                                                                                                (felis madjewicus)
                                                                                                • Jul 2006
                                                                                                • 20368

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by L-Pink
                                                                                                Most real fucking happens with mood lighting ..... for a reason.
                                                                                                bahahaha, indeed....

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                                                                                                • stickyfingerz
                                                                                                  Doin fine
                                                                                                  • Oct 2005
                                                                                                  • 24984

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  To U.S residents that dont think HD quality is possible to be delivered to the consumer. Go here.

                                                                                                  http://www.hulu.com/hd/ Play any of the trailers. Click the fullscreen button. Im watching HD trailers with 0 buffering full screen at 1680x1050 resolution on a 22" screen. Quality where you can see hair follicles with no problem. I hook it up to a 52" plasma via svideo or dvi and I can watch it on there at nearly the same quality. We should be pushing in the same direction as mainstream.

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                                                                                                  • Jim_Gunn
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                                                                                                    • Feb 2003
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by Rochard
                                                                                                    HD is shit.

                                                                                                    I have a HD tv and HD cable. I don't need to see the newscasters fucking pores on their faces. It looks horrible.

                                                                                                    Too much quality is not always a good thing.
                                                                                                    That's what younger, prettier newscasters are for.

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