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Joe Sixpack 10-12-2002 04:21 AM

More dangerous than Saddam or Osama
 
Beware, the far right religious lunatics are out and looking for ways to take away this precious "freedom" you Americans say is so important to you. So what are you gonna do about it?

http://www.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/....ap/index.html

bhutocracy 10-12-2002 06:58 AM

what are we going to do about ours? the ridiculous Alston and that nutbag Harradine...

DjSap 10-12-2002 07:00 AM

they are as fucked up as osama...

atleast saddam aint a fundamentalist...he just exploits the religion for his own good...thats something admirable...

Joe Sixpack 10-12-2002 07:03 AM

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Originally posted by bhutocracy
what are we going to do about ours? the ridiculous Alston and that nutbag Harradine...
"The notion of separating church and state with such policies as disallowing prayer in public schools "is a deception from Satan," said Joyce Meyer, a convention sponsor.

"If God is in fact separated from the government, then we can never possibly have a godly government," Meyer said to a standing ovation. "There's no way for America to be good if she's not godly.""

Yeah, but the people speaking this gobbledygook comprise a massive lobby group in the USA with a bankroll to match.

We may have religious lunatics as well but we're primarily a heathen nation and I don't think we take ours all that seriously. Look at Fred Nile!

Spoonie Luv 10-12-2002 08:23 AM

I'm not religious, but I'm also not naive enough to think we will ever have separate of church and state in this country.

DragonAss 10-12-2002 08:22 PM

This is screwy:

"Bush sent the convention a videotaped message Friday, greeting the Christian conservatives and promising an administration that would advocate the group's key agenda items: anti-abortion activism, low taxes, limited government and judges who don't legislate. "

Wonder what they mean by "anti-abortion activism"? I'm pro choice, though in practice I'd rather see alternatives to an abortion being utilized. Somehow, with the pro-life crowd's notion that rape victims should have the baby, I don't think we're all on the same page with this term: anti-abortion activism. :NopeNope

"Low taxes and limited government"
... okay...
whenever you're ready there King George. :1orglaugh

"Judges who don't legislate"
???
Mandatory minimums? :321GFY

Joe Sixpack 10-12-2002 08:28 PM

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Originally posted by DragonAss
Wonder what they mean by "anti-abortion activism"? I'm pro choice, though in practice I'd rather see alternatives to an abortion being utilized. Somehow, with the pro-life crowd's notion that rape victims should have the baby, I don't think we're all on the same page with this term: anti-abortion activism. :NopeNope
Anti-abortion activism means you firebomb abortion clinics and murder doctors who perform abortions.

Pro-life? What a fucking joke.

txl 10-12-2002 09:03 PM

Just vote for the democrats in '04!

theking 10-12-2002 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Joe Sixpack
Beware, the far right religious lunatics are out and looking for ways to take away this precious "freedom" you Americans say is so important to you. So what are you gonna do about it?

http://www.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/....ap/index.html

What freedom are they trying to take away? They are a rather small fringe political organization, very vocal, but that in and of itself is usually self defeating.

theking 10-12-2002 09:05 PM

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Originally posted by Joe Sixpack


Anti-abortion activism means you firebomb abortion clinics and murder doctors who perform abortions.

Pro-life? What a fucking joke.

It means a handfull of the mentally disturbed do.

<IMX> 10-12-2002 09:07 PM

http://www.libertarian.org/

Joe Sixpack 10-12-2002 09:10 PM

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Originally posted by theking


What freedom are they trying to take away? They are a rather small fringe political organization, very vocal, but that in and of itself is usually self defeating.

The freedom to look at porn for one. D'oh!

These people want a fucking theocracy where God's law is THE law.

If they are such a "small fringe political organisation" why was their conference opened by a videotaped message from George Bush? These people virtually run the Republican party.

Scary stuff.

Sly_RJ 10-12-2002 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Joe Sixpack


The freedom to look at porn for one. D'oh!

These people want a fucking theocracy where God's law is THE law.

If they are such a "small fringe political organisation" why was their conference opened by a videotaped message from George Bush? These people virtually run the Republican party.

Scary stuff.

To win their votes, dumb ass. Whine all you want, radicals don't get elected.

Joe Sixpack 10-12-2002 09:19 PM

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Originally posted by Sly_RJ

To win their votes, dumb ass. Whine all you want, radicals don't get elected.

Hey, its not my country. I thought some of you freedom loving Americans might give a shit.

Obviously not.

UnseenWorld 10-12-2002 09:21 PM

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Originally posted by DragonAss
"Judges who don't legislate"
???
Mandatory minimums? :321GFY

FYI, mandatory minimum sentences are not anything judges want. Most judges oppose mandatory minimums and would prefer to have a reasonable degree of latitude when it comes to sentencing. Blame the legislative branch for mandatory minimums.

theking 10-12-2002 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Joe Sixpack


The freedom to look at porn for one. D'oh!

These people want a fucking theocracy where God's law is THE law.

If they are such a "small fringe political organisation" why was their conference opened by a videotaped message from George Bush? These people virtually run the Republican party.

Scary stuff.

These people do not virtually run the Republican party. The Republican party is known as the conservative party, within that party there are the far right conservatives, which includes the Christian Coalition and far right conservatives are by far in the minority within the Republican Party. Moderate Republicans constitute the over whelming majority within the Republican Party. There is barley a dimes worth of difference between a moderate Democrat, which is the over whelming majority of Democrats, and a moderate Republican.

theking 10-12-2002 09:24 PM

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Originally posted by UnseenWorld


FYI, mandatory minimum sentences are not anything judges want. Most judges oppose mandatory minimums and would prefer to have a reasonable degree of latitude when it comes to sentencing. Blame the legislative branch for mandatory minimums.

Very true.

Joe Sixpack 10-12-2002 09:25 PM

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Originally posted by theking


These people do not virtually run the Republican party. The Republican party is known as the conservative party, within that party there are the far right conservatives, which includes the Christian Coalition and far right conservatives are by far in the minority within the Republican Party. Moderate Republicans constitute the over whelming majority within the Republican Party. There is barley a dimes worth of difference between a moderate Democrat, which is the over whelming majority of Democrats, and a moderate Republican.

"Bush sent the convention a videotaped message Friday, greeting the Christian conservatives and promising an administration that would advocate the group's key agenda items: anti-abortion activism, low taxes, limited government and judges who don't legislate. "

Sounds like President Bush is in bed with them. He supports their key agenda.

Sly_RJ 10-12-2002 09:27 PM

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Originally posted by Joe Sixpack


Hey, its not my country. I thought some of you freedom loving Americans might give a shit.

Obviously not.

About some extreme radicals that will never make a difference? Nope, don't care. Just like I don't care when tree huggers throw a hissy fit and tie themselves to trees.

I'm sorry, should I?

Joe Sixpack 10-12-2002 09:31 PM

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Originally posted by Sly_RJ

About some extreme radicals that will never make a difference? Nope, don't care. Just like I don't care when tree huggers throw a hissy fit and tie themselves to trees.

I'm sorry, should I?

I don't see the president of the USA opening the tree huggers conference with a videotaped message that promises to support and pursure their key agenda.

If you think these people "will never make a difference" you are burying your head in the sand.

How would you react if Bush opened a KKK conference with a videotaped message telling them he supported their key agenda? Did you even read the article?

PS These people want to put you out of business as Bush obviously supports them.

theking 10-12-2002 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Joe Sixpack


"Bush sent the convention a videotaped message Friday, greeting the Christian conservatives and promising an administration that would advocate the group's key agenda items: anti-abortion activism, low taxes, limited government and judges who don't legislate. "

Sounds like President Bush is in bed with them. He supports their key agenda.

I think I know that you are a smarter Aborigine than that. Politicians say what they think their targeted aduience wants to hear. In a political campaign the survey people are sent in weeks, even months in advance, to the area where the candidate will be giving his campaign speech. The survey people learn what the concerns of the people are in that area, turn this information over to the speech writers, and the candidate in turn delivers the speech which in essence tells the people what they want to hear to garner their vote. Of course you know all of this so stop being a silly Aborigine. :eyecrazy

Joe Sixpack 10-12-2002 09:38 PM

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Originally posted by theking


I think I know that you are a smarter Aborinine than that. Politicians say what they think their targeted aduience wants to hear. In a political campaign the survey people are sent in weeks, even months in advance, to the area where the candidate will be giving his campaign speech. The survey people learn what the concerns of the people are in that area, turn this information over to the speech writers, and the candidate in turn delivers the speech which in essence tells the people what they want to hear to garner their vote. Of course you know all of this so stop being a silly Aborgine. :eyecrazy

Like I said in my previous message, how would you react if President Bush had opened a KKK conference with a videotaped message telling them he supported their key agenda?

Would you be concerned?

theking 10-12-2002 09:43 PM

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Originally posted by Joe Sixpack


Like I said in my previous message, how would you react if President Bush had opened a KKK conference with a videotaped message telling them he supported their key agenda?

Would you be concerned?

My only concern would be which Democrat would be our next President, because Bush certainly would not be. Your extreme views are just as extreme as the extreme left Democrats and/or the extreme right Repulicans and mean as much, or as little, as their views do.

Sly_RJ 10-12-2002 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Joe Sixpack


I don't see the president of the USA opening the tree huggers conference with a videotaped message that promises to support and pursure their key agenda.

If you think these people "will never make a difference" you are burying your head in the sand.

How would you react if Bush opened a KKK conference with a videotaped message telling them he supported their key agenda? Did you even read the article?

PS These people want to put you out of business as Bush obviously supports them.

What the fuck is wrong with some of you foreigners? Fuck, I'm NEVER going to Australia, it's obviously a very boring place. You don't have your own news programs so you watch ours and get all upset some dumb ass meeting that the American President pays lip service to just to get some extra votes the next election.

YES, Bush is pro-life. So what? You seriously think he's going to successfully change abortion policy?

YES, he wants lower taxes. Good! So do I!

YES, he wants stiffer punishment. Good! Let's lay out the law.

Limited government sounds great to me. That means I can use my new gun (woohoo!) and put a slug in your shoulder the minute you place the foot on my property. You're lucky I'm nice and a bad shot, I'm sure my neighbor would pop one right between the eyes.

ChrisH 10-12-2002 09:52 PM

Clueless Joe Sad
"These people want a fucking theocracy where God's law is THE law."

If you were really paying attention to something that has NOTHING to do with you, you'd know that GW has already screwed these "EXTREMIST FUCKS" over when he approved embryonic stem cell research. So this is his olive branch! Do I like it? NO! My vote will show it. However, it's none of you concern!

FUS
Whatever Pathfinder meant by that, I don't know, I know it wasn't good though. LOL

Joe Sixpack 10-12-2002 09:52 PM

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Originally posted by Sly_RJ

What the fuck is wrong with some of you foreigners? Fuck, I'm NEVER going to Australia, it's obviously a very boring place.

Good. Stay the fuck out. :321GFY

ChrisH 10-12-2002 09:57 PM

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Originally posted by Sly_RJ

Fuck, I'm NEVER going to Australia

Sly,
Whatever you do don't go to their vacation spots.

They've become a hot spot for terrorism.

theking 10-12-2002 09:59 PM

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Originally posted by ChrisH


Sly,
Whatever you do don't go to their vacation spots.

They've become a hot spot for terrorism.

Have the Aborigines run amuck? Joe call your family off. :winkwink:

Joe Sixpack 10-12-2002 10:01 PM

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Originally posted by ChrisH


Sly,
Whatever you do don't go to their vacation spots.

They've become a hot spot for terrorism.

Not as hot as New York! :1orglaugh

http://www.netfeed.com/~jhill/wtc2series.jpg

I can't wait for the next one!

ChrisH 10-12-2002 10:02 PM

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Originally posted by theking


Have the Aborigines run amuck? Joe call your family off. :winkwink:

Did you see what happened in Bali?

Pipecrew 10-12-2002 10:03 PM

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Originally posted by Joe Sixpack


Not as hot as New York! :1orglaugh


I can't wait for the next one!


way to prove your point? if your point was to succeed at looking like a moron, Good Job

Joe Sixpack 10-12-2002 10:04 PM

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Originally posted by ChrisH


Did you see what happened in Bali?

Hate to tell you this, but Bali is in Indonesia! :1orglaugh

Did you miss geography class in school? Maybe they just didn't have one! :1orglaugh

ChrisH 10-12-2002 10:06 PM

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Originally posted by Pipecrew



way to prove your point? if your point was to succeed at looking like a moron, Good Job

It was only a matter of time!!

theking 10-12-2002 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Joe Sixpack


Not as hot as New York! :1orglaugh

http://www.netfeed.com/~jhill/wtc2series.jpg

I can't wait for the next one!

Ooooooohhhhhh, you fucking Aborigine guy you. You are a bad man, a very, very bad man. Fuck you, you fucking guy. I am going to get my neighbors dog to bite you. He will bite your fucking Dingo to. That dog will bite your balls, fucking Aborigine guy. Oh the pain for you! :mad:

Joe Sixpack 10-12-2002 10:08 PM

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Originally posted by ChrisH


It was only a matter of time!!

You're the one who thinks Bali is in Australia! :1orglaugh

Hilarious.

ChrisH 10-12-2002 10:15 PM

Clueless,
Read the article if you can http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,65513,00.html Bali is a hot spot for vacationing Aussies!

No one said Bali was in Austrailia.

I've seen those pics pal! Nothing new here. Do you have a point? Or do you just like to look like a backwards asshole?

Joe Sixpack 10-12-2002 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ChrisH
Clueless,
Read the article if you can http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,65513,00.html Bali is a hot spot for vacationing Aussies!

No one said Bali was in Austrailia.

I've seen those pics pal! Nothing new here. Do you have a point? Or do you just like to look like a backwards asshole?

You really are a fucking retard aren't you? Goddamn I've never come across anyone as stupid as you.

Bali is a hot spot for vacationing people from EVERYWHERE. Who cares? It's in Indonesia and there's not even one Aussie who's confirmed dead.

And you have the audacity to call me clueless. Fucking moron.

ChrisH 10-12-2002 10:23 PM

Can't read I see. That's okay....

theking 10-12-2002 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ChrisH
Clueless,
Read the article if you can http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,65513,00.html Bali is a hot spot for vacationing Aussies!

No one said Bali was in Austrailia.

I've seen those pics pal! Nothing new here. Do you have a point? Or do you just like to look like a backwards asshole?

His mother did not let him suck enough eggs when he was young so he is a poor, dumb, moronic, Aborigine and actually an asshole from the outback. He is also a very, very bad man.

Joe Sixpack 10-12-2002 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ChrisH
Can't read I see. That's okay....
Hey retard, if you are looking for news about Australia why not visit an Australian web site! :1orglaugh

Fool.

ChrisH 10-12-2002 10:26 PM

theking,
Those pictures are why I will vote for anyone supporting my saftey, however minute it may seem to some foreigner. They are also the same reason why I'll NEVER vote for any of the politicians that didn't vote yes last week!!

ChrisH 10-12-2002 10:28 PM

What an idiot! Hey STUPID that would be WORLD NEWS!!

If some poor family had their house burn down. That would be Austrailian News.

I know it's hard.... but try to keep up!!

Joe Sixpack 10-12-2002 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ChrisH
What an idiot! Hey STUPID that would be WORLD NEWS!!

If some poor family had their house burn down. That would be Austrailian News.

I know it's hard.... but try to keep up!!

Hey, it's "AUSTRALIA" dipshit. Just the one "I" you illiterate :1orglaugh

ChrisH 10-13-2002 01:13 AM

Well now that you are reduced to picking on my spelling... You Lose! hehe....

Clueless.... you're too funny man!!

Btw, did you see that 80% of the estimated 170 people killed in the Bali terrorist attacks were Aussies.

Too bad you weren't there!! :321GFY

Joe Sixpack 10-13-2002 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ChrisH
Well now that you are reduced to picking on my spelling... You Lose! hehe....

Clueless.... you're too funny man!!

Btw, did you see that 80% of the estimated 170 people killed in the Bali terrorist attacks were Aussies.

Too bad you weren't there!! :321GFY

I never lose, you retard! :1orglaugh

Cal 10-13-2002 01:36 AM

Not to divert from the shouting match, but Bush has done a few sneaky things to further the CC cause.

He cut US funding to the UN for overseas programs who support/recognize abortion. He managed to get a few diehard pro-lifers into his administration, or had you forgotten about our ATTORNEY GENERAL?

When the Pledge was hot debate on the Hill, Bush led the pack with the stunning remark:

President Bush this morning saying that the decision is "out of step" with the country's history. "America is a nation ... that values our relationship with the Almighty," Bush said. "We need commonsense judges who understand that our rights were derived from God."

We do? They were? This is the man the United States is letting speak on our behalf. Anyone claiming this administration or any future Republican admin. does not have the power to reverse Roe v. Wade need only look at the 2000 election. The Supreme Court votes its party (vis. the liberal NJ Supreme Court ruling on election law), add another pro-life judge or two and things will change drastically.

C.

Joe Sixpack 10-13-2002 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cal
When the Pledge was hot debate on the Hill, Bush led the pack with the stunning remark:

President Bush this morning saying that the decision is "out of step" with the country's history. "America is a nation ... that values our relationship with the Almighty," Bush said. "We need commonsense judges who understand that our rights were derived from God."

Scary shit. He actually sounds like Osama. Well he IS a terrorist so I guess that makes sense.

Webby 10-13-2002 02:31 AM

*President Bush this morning saying that the decision is "out of step" with the country's history. "America is a nation ... that values our relationship with the Almighty," Bush said. "We need commonsense judges who understand that our rights were derived from God." *

Sheesh... I new he was a totally ingnorant hypocrite asshole and liar within 10 days of him taking office, - but that makes ya throw up. If that is actually a fair estimation (which I doubt!) of what level the US has reached, - there ain't any hope.

Sure as hell he did not write that shit - just incapable and an idiot for accepting the wording. Suppose it beats his usual dribbling utterances and rhetoric.

For God's sake US.. open your eyes and get some leadership!

Time for a "regime change"! This time in the US which is now no more than another "rogue state"! :BangBang:

kevinl 10-13-2002 02:38 AM

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http://www.libertarian.org/
Amen

Fuck the liberal left and religious right.

Webby 10-13-2002 02:45 AM

kevinl:

Some kinda balance and getting rid of the blinkers would be a good start... How Bush ever got half-elected in the first instance is way beyond me. They guy was not even qualified to do fuck all - he must be the least qualified leader the the western world.
Suppose that is how he is being treated now, wot more can ya expect.

He is one walking disaster area for the US, which is damned sad and does not any credit whatsoever to that country.


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