Calling out domainnamesystems.com / cheapies.com
 

Ever tried to transfer your domains away from them, it's a pain in the ass.

They allow 3 whois queries per IP to their whois, obviously a big registrar like enom will be blocked in no time and you can't get your domains transferred to them.

Then you tell the owner about the problem and he expects you to organise enom's whitelisting for them and on top of that threatens with a lawsuit when you tell him you will take this matter to the boards.

Gord, after 3 weeks I had enough, get the finger out and organise an enom whitelisting so I can get my fucking domains away from you.

really? you are disappointed in the ethics and business practices of the guy who was selling .xxx domains (and other non-existent TLD's) in the late 90's?

weird.

i thought he would always be working in the customers interest and be a shining example of ethics in business.

I can only advice everybody to stay away from domainnamesystems/cheapies, they are the worst, according to the owner posting my experiences with them here will result in blocking the domains, here is what he had to say to me:

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And now here's something you can sink your teeth into. If you keep up this
continuation of foul language and threats, we will lock your account(s),
you wont EVER get a domain away, and we'll let our lawyers play.
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So, the situation is, they are blocking enom's whois server, so I can not get my domains transferred, I can't understand why it should be my job to organise enom's whitelisting with the losing registrar.

I've been having issues too.. for about 3 months, their support was non existent, they would leave you on hold forever (probably because no one was there). Their EPP codes wouldn't show. Finally they reappeared again and support answered me. I had set a few domains to be transferred a few months ago, and they never made it, I'm assuming I'm running into the same issue as you.

Where's Gord/Vicki? Where's the Cheapies guy who posted here? Why don't they realize this kind of domain hostage is bad for business?

it took me 2 month to transfer my domains

I am overwhelmed by the positive replies this company is getting.


What did you have to do to get your domains out of there??

I contacted cheapies.com (via phone and email), threaten them with a letter from my lawyer, then tried to get in touch with domainnamesystems again. They have not addressed my phone calls nor emails for quite a bit but once I got a respond from them it was in a very rude and unofficial form. Thanx god Im done with them…
And good luck to you.

cheapies is domainnamesystems, same owner, sounds like I have a lot of pain ahead of me, maybe bumping this thread will help speeding things up?

bumping this thread is not gonna help you : )

I think cheapies bought them a while back (but they never notified customers about acquisition)

http://www.icann.org/registrars/accreditation.htm << send another email to support and tell them that you filed a complaint against them

This guy (Gord) is a complete asshole. He made it hell for me to move my domains when I decided to take them to Namecheap. He owns Cheapies as well, which I think was originally owned by his brother. Started a thread here: http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=815114

Took me a few stressful weeks to get my domains moved, and the guy harassed the shit out of me the entire time.

Stay away from DomainNameSystems / Cheapies.com!!!

Their reputation gets better an better.

Guess what, still no news in my case, looks like they don't really care about their customers.

bump for this.

Check out the runaround in these threads, when they were denying there was a relationship.
fucking-around-and-business-discussion/674427-cheapies-com-introductory-special-domains-6-74-yr.html
fucking-around-and-business-discussion/674723-brujah.html

They are required by ICAAN's rules to move your domains. With this guy, you need to be patient and just keep reminding him to remove the locks. If you make it into a fight, he'll make your life hell out of spite.

Yes, interesting how they discredit moniker and godaddy by calling them the worst or the most expensive.

Bottom line is, they made me renew 4 domains, each one for $15 because because they wouldn't let me transfer them and I would have lost them due to expiration.

They must be desperate for business when the have to fuck me over 4 domain renewals, wonder if it was all worth it?

"If you have attempted to transfer a domain name from one registrar to another registrar and the transfer was denied, the "losing" registrar is required to provide the "gaining" registrar with a notice and a specific reason for the denial." (from internic website)

obviously domainnamesystems / cheapies doesn't give a fuck about this rule

I just tried a whois, and got this message below the 1st try.

I have no real complaints about them EXCEPT when I sell a domain it takes forever to get it unlocked. I am still trying to get some of them unlocked for moving.

Other than that they have been pretty good even going to bat for me when a domain was stolen years ago and getting it back.

You should take that as a warning sign, especially based on the examples of others in this thread.

Are any of them better? Godaddy terminates accounts for a single complaint. Who do you suggest I trust your judgement.

I have most of mine with Enom, and many swear by Moniker or Fabulous. After trying Fabulous with a few hundred names, I really like them as a choice too.

Yes, it's pathetic, they call themselves registrars but still they limit access to the whois server to 3 requests per day.

The only reason I can see for this is too make sure people can not transfer their domains away from them. If they would be worried about people doing mass whois requests, they would limit it to 200 to make sure other registrars would still get through.

It's a shame, avoid domainnamesystems/cheapies by all means, register your domains with some other company.

I have used Domain Named Systems going on 10 years now, and have never had a problem with them. I have purchased domains there, ahd domains transfered in and out, pushed, locked, whatever. I love their notices where my domain is going due and I forgot. I even got a call once where someone was trying to transfer my domain out. Gord and company has always been there for me!

As for unlocking the domain, you can do that yourself. Just go to your domain list, click on edit the domain, and unlock it. Simple realy

Like I said, I never had any problems with them either and then I tried to transfer domains to enom.

I was threatened to have my account locked and to lose all of my domains if I go and post about my experiences here.

I don't give a fuck domainnamesystems, go ahead and lock my account and we shall see how good that will do to your business and what icann will have to say about that.

8 years with DNS and not a single problem. There is always 2 sides to every story :2 cents:

try to transfer a domain to enom and you'll know what I am talking about

Registrar Problem Report Form @ Internic.net
http://reports.internic.net/cgi/regi...lem-report.cgi

The link above says to also contact the appropriate consumer complaints organizations. Cheapies is "located" in Toronto, so the following may be helpful.

Contact the Consumer Protection branch
http://www.gov.on.ca/mgs/en/ConsProt/STEL02_167786.html

Ministry of Government and Consumer Services
Consumer Protection Branch
5775 Yonge St. Suite 1500
Toronto, ON M7A 2E5

Toll-free: 1-800-889-9768
Call in Toronto: 416-326-8800
TTY: 416-325-3408 or 1-800-268-7095
Fax: 416-326-8665
E-mail: [email protected]
Walk-in service is available.

If you can't get the Whois info for Cheapies, it's available at:
http://whois.domaintools.com/cheapies.com

Thank you for your report. We're sorry that you have experienced trouble with your domain registration. We have sent your problem report to ICANN, which will forward it to your registrar. We hope you will be able to resolve the matter to your satisfaction.

ICANN will review your problem report and use it in establishing long-term registrar policy.

After ten years of great service, now why would I want to do that?

maybe you sold the domain and the buyer is with another registrar?
maybe enom is cheaper?
maybe enom offers free usage of their nameservers?

And maybe when I sell a domain they kown its a free push at DNS, and they like that, plus the expire date stays the same. In ten years I never heard of enom, so sorry if I can't judge their service

the only person that stands up for this company and you haven't even heard of enom? tell me, how many .xxx domains has gord sold to you back in the days??

btw: whois requests are still blocked and my domains are still not transferred.

:helpme:helpme

BUMP

Still no news from domainnamesystems.com / cheapies.com, I am still unable to transfer my domains.

I will keep bumping this until they get the finger out.

Another person who's never had a problem in almost ten years - and Gord and company have always been very helpful when I've needed them....

eNom sucks too. eNom overcharged for ICANN fees and made it near impossible to redeem the credits. I pulled out all of my domains.

The best registrar I have ever used is Moniker, they are top drawer!! I moved all my domains to Moniker. It was a great decision.

If you'd have a domainnamesystems aff ID you wouldn't hesitate to spam that one either, would you?

hey gord, how fucking hard is it to pick up the phone, ring enom and get their whois server IP so I can get my domains transferred, or simply set your system to alow 20 queries per day instead of 1, stop being such an asshole and let me transfer my domains.


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Dear Enom Customer:

Thank you for your recent transfer request. We want to let you know transfer
initiated under login account has been closed.
Below you will find the status of all domains in this order.

The following domain names were not transferred successfully:
Rejection Reason: Canceled - cannot obtain domain contacts from UWhois
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That's interesting because for at least a brief period of time, DNS was using Enom.

Unless something has changed, DomainNameServices isn't even a registrar.

Enom is aware and will help you get this transferred. They can get the whois an alternate way. You just need to let them know, use the Help System when you first request a transfer. They will do it manually for you. DNS/Cheapies is not cooperating.

no, the guy is a fucking asshole, and I hope people will learn from this thread not to do any business with him.

He has no trouble taking your money, but once you need his support he fucks you, probably made a lot of money selling non existing domains when he did his .xxx scam back in the days ...

FUCK YOU DOMAINNAMESYSTEMS !!!

hello gord

After nearly ten years of business on dozens of domains and still having $100 in my account:

This guy an asshole just for the sake of it.

here is what he had to say about this thread:

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I dont respond well to threats, but its going to be interesting that should you do that and we sue you for slander and libel.
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Don't you just like that, instead of helping me he wants to take me to court because he is to fucking stupid to let me transfer my domains. this guy is a joke, stay away.

He lives for a fight. All he had to do is abide by the ICAAN rules and everyone would be happy, but instead, he prefers to sue people, fight, and threaten people's livelihoods.

Wow, is this all over the transfer of 1 name or do you have 100s with him?

used to have 100's ... this is over 4 domains.