penthouse sales down the drain since AFF takeover
 

Hey guys,

dont take this as a bashing thread, as i know this is probably not the place, but I was just going over my Statsremote in depth as i do 1 time a month, and noticed the following trend. I only promote penthouse with some FHG and submissions.

Dec 2007 - 8 sales / 12 rebills - $201.81
Jan 2008 - 10 sales / 13 rebills - $346.27
Feb 2008 - 6 sales / 18 rebills - $358.47
*** Penthouse buys AFF and AFF now manages Penthouse online operations ***
March 2008
In the old program (NATS) - 10 rebills - $99.70
In the new AFF program - 39 "free" members for a wopping $0.90 earned.

Some more details about this. I by no means promote penthouse very heavy, just some FHGs and the odd submission, but stats are stats. I have a linkcode system that I can switch over the sponsor codes with 1 button to point to a new code. So basically any gallery ever submitted for penthouse has the new Penthouse AFF program code. The hosted galleries magically don't track ofcourse, so maybe some sales got lost there. But hummm.. this does not seem quite right. The ONLY membership being "sold" now is the free membership bullshit which just allows an upgrade or something, which well obviously does not seem to be happening. I got one wopping upgrade in april so far ($12 something earned) and already another 9 useless "free" members.

Am I the only one that saw penthouse earnings go through the drain since AFF take over online operations?

Im looking for feedback

thanks.

Steve

Same here steve, I was dissapointed to see that the old did better, looked like the new tour would be awesome, something aint right :(

yup exactly my thoughts.

Hi Steve! Long time no talk - hope you send a few more to me instead again. I wil tak to you laters this week. Greetings

yep i had a dedicated project for that revolved around penthouse awhile back...a site with at least 30% going towards it and now it's all free member sign-ups. given...a few surfers signed up under the yearly program but it seems to be 1 yr members or free members. the new 5 minute clip "tube site" they have may be counter-productive...but hey it prompts aff!

:2 cents:

Fuck Various, Inc. :321GFY

shooting you an icq now or feel free to hit me up

Fuck Various, Inc. :321GFY

Hate to be the guy that says hey promote me. Truth is we are in direct competition and have been working hard to make our affiliates more and more money. if anybody wants to give us a shot or try some of our new (yet to be released) sites hit us up.

I think it pretty much boils down to webmasters not liking content thieves and those that fund them. After all the result is truly the webmasters bottom line on the chopping block.

There I said it, thats right...
AFF would be doing alot better not supporting content thieves and companies like Zango. Penthouse is solid gold no reason why it should not sell but less promotion = less demand as a result of less exposure.

Many equate less exposure = more sales but it is not true.

Well, I recently wrote a review of the site for a client and...I don't think surfers are liking the bait and switch they've got going with the "free membership."

Now I'm not trying to say "oh poor surfers" or anything, but it says free, and, well, it ain't.

I mean sure, I wouldn't expect to get full access to everything for free, but once you're in there, you can't do ANYTHING. I'd be pissed and probably would leave without upgrading too which is a shame because I actually like the site itself.

You show someone some previews and tell them the price to access everything, and they just might sign up. You tell them it's free, put them through the sign up process and then give them nothing and then ask them to go through a second sign up process... well... they might just move along.

shap can you hit me up on icq

Fuck I just had a close look at my stats and they dropped to 25% of what it was!

I say, ALL LINKS DELETED :321GFY

mine too

my sales seem steady............

Penthouse is also my worst converting sponsor... Switched it to MacAndBumble and this site converts like crazy for me :)

I do so already :thumbsup

only one solution.................. (see siggy)

apparently i had another account with them that was auto imported upon the merge which i was not aware of. That accounted for some of the sales, so its not quite as bad as it initially looked. The free members model is not the way to go in my opinion, but at least more or less on track.

Feel free to try us out! :thumbsup

Oh your that guy... :winkwink:

LOLOLOLOLOL

did i miss something. i know that i just sort of scan threads here and there... but i thought that there was some sort of courtesy still in threads that were about a certain program and no question outside of that program that were in that unsaid "dont spam someones thread" sort of thing

I'm glad you were able to get your stats worked out!

http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr...iendfinder.com

Looks to me like they are buying lots of traffic starting in March. Maybe that huge traffic is resetting the stats tracking codes to give AFF credit for the sale instead of the webmaster! :2 cents::2 cents::2 cents:

lol "sexy clipper"

Note to self.. pull all Penthouse galleries and find someone new to replace them

Good Idea :thumbsup

did you really?

So is "Don't shit where you eat", but this is GFY...you should know better.

are you really bitching about someone spamming in a thread about penthouse? You are the same guy that defending the use of companies like zango, megarotic, and torrents. Maybe you should shut the fuck up and stop worrying about thread jacking on gfy and worry more about stolen traffic, sales, and content. Have a nice day and don't let the post reply button hit you in the ass on the way out :2 cents:

My sales are down too. I feel that the change was to lessen sales. The initial affiliate program was just to create a new awareness for Penthouse's internet presence and now that its done, adios webmasters. Penthouse wants all the money for themselves.

I've never pushed penthouse very hard. I'm making about the same now as I used to.

Fuck you, you fucking scumbag. By the way Twisty cash is now powered by NATS http://nats.twistyscash.com/

Tsssss...What a fail comment... I just re-routed my links and dumped you of my sponsor list. For you 10 others. Have a great day!

Actually it looks like you are the FAIL man. That guy doesn't even work for Twistys.

Nice Job!

WOOOOOO WHOOOOOOOOOO

Man, we can't GIVE that tired brand away.

Its summer clean up anyway :321GFY

lol... awesome

I don't work for twistys at all, I just hate scumbags like Irish Pimp that think they can have people play nice with them as they are fucking over people. I'm just a webmaster like yourself and don't work for any programs. I'm sick of scum in this industry. So don't take it out on the sponsor as it was more of a fuck you to Irish Pimp:)

I read :

Originally Posted by Gals4free View Post
apparently i had another account with them that was auto imported upon the merge which i was not aware of. That accounted for some of the sales, so its not quite as bad as it initially looked. The free members model is not the way to go in my opinion, but at least more or less on track.

I see attacks. You think this is a nice way of talking to people on a forum? Why not pick up the phone and shoot your message.
And I would personally never associate myself with a sponsor program as webmaster. You have no idea how many people ( not posting ) read this kind of personal attacks and judge you on it.

You might not represent them, you just associated your self with them. Case closed for me.

No offense but for a full time webmaster you are pretty damn stupid. First you Fail thinking he works for a program he doesn't work for. Then you quote another guy and Fail again at making any sense.

I checked out your site. You are obviously pushing Penthouse hard and you have an interest in protecting them. That's great and fantastic good for you to stand up for them somebody besides irish pimp has to right? :1orglaugh

Good luck at not failing as much next time you post :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

WOOOOOOOOO WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Someone ring the bro alert...

Fuck em... they pretty much fund every thieving asshole on the internet. If they ran a legitimate ship then they'd be a great program, but as it stands I pretty much feel that anyone running that program deserves a baton to the knee caps.

:2 cents:

omg

where are my pop corns ?

wow that's surprising :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

No.....You just can't read.....

Case closed for the rest of us.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

He has nothing to do with Twistys you clueless twit. I'm sure Twistys will miss your 6 hits a day though.

I used to be their #2 or #3 affiliate depending on months with the "good old NATS system" ...

My numbers dropped to something like 25% since the merge too :(

So my thinking is : If it did affected me this bad, I can only imagine how it is for the other ones...

Many of you know where I come from.. Always loved Penthouse, always will, I truly loved working there and everyones from the NYC office, we did parted in good terms due to the merge... But no matter how I can love a company, I have to look at the numbers and numbers are what matters here. Never changed anything from Before and After.. Traffic, galleries, sites and most important, DEDICATION...

I'm just sad to see such a great program becoming what it is now...

Now I guess the ball is in their field :2 cents:

That being said, I still believe it's not too late and they still can make things right ...

The brand is VERY Strong and the name is good to the consumers.