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Halcyon 04-02-2008 10:18 AM

Asian Niche Jackpot? !!! FUCKJAPAN.com!!!
 
FLASHCA$H is proud to present the launch of our BRAND NEW site:
FUCKJAPAN.COM

FuckJapan features 100% authentic Japanese perversions. Made in Japan, featuring all Japanese models.

http://elabs5.com/content/1006292/ha...screen_cap.jpg

The new site is launching with

* 100+ Banners
* 45+ FPA/HPAs
* 150 Hosted WMV Galleries
* 50 Hosted Flash Galleries
* 30 Downloadable Galleries
* 20 Downloadable Content Sets



bump this thread and I'll post hot clips!

~Ray 04-02-2008 10:29 AM

good job again

~Ray

bobby666 04-02-2008 10:32 AM

and how many fucked asians?

commonsense 04-02-2008 10:34 AM

1) Is any of the content exclusive?

2) It will be very difficult to market this to my Japanese traffic. Meaning surfers from Japan. You could have just called it FuckYouJapan.com or FuckOffJapan.com, those are still available :winkwink:

Halcyon 04-02-2008 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by commonsense (Post 14020404)
1) Is any of the content exclusive?

2) It will be very difficult to market this to my Japanese traffic. Meaning surfers from Japan. You could have just called it FuckYouJapan.com or FuckOffJapan.com, those are still available :winkwink:

Ya think?

I would love a site called "FuckPinky.com" ;)

I'll pass on your feedback. thanks!

MichelleB 04-02-2008 11:12 AM

Nice job Hal, looks good.;)

Halcyon 04-02-2008 11:36 AM

FLASHCA$H is pleased to announce the latest addition to its niche site network, FuckJapan.com, featuring authentic Japanese adult videos filmed in, and exported from, the island nation itself exclusively for FLASHCA$H. FuckJapan.com is a video-based site, with embedded Flash video tours to highlight the spectacular (and kinky) content inside this site.

FuckJapan.com is an important site for FLASHCA$H and the adult industry as a whole. It is one of the first times that Japanese content producers have granted a foreign country distribution rights to their content.

The Asian niche is a very popular one, but the Japanese subset of that niche is what the surfers are really looking for. FuckJapan.com is a unique site, focusing on Japanese models and showcasing a range of perversions and pleasures. We know that your surfers will love these videos - they are fresh, unique and very, very hot.

The site launched with over 60 videos that range from 30 to 60 minutes in length and new content will be added every 3 to 4 days.

The new format of the FLASHCA$H sites lends itself to video-based memberships. Our new navigation differentiates inclusions from upsells and our embedded Flash video technology allows us to stream HD quality videos. FuckJapan.com is the perfect vehicle to showcase the new technology and give your surfers the ultimate porn experience.

Contact your Account Rep for more information about this exclusive new site:

Kris: [email protected]
Missy: [email protected]
Netpiddler: [email protected]

LB-69 04-02-2008 11:57 AM

"range of perversions" ? All i see in tour is guys fucking gals and cum on their faces. Please explain.

GAMEFINEST 04-02-2008 12:07 PM

looks good,

Jens Van Assterdam 04-02-2008 12:12 PM

looking good :)

pornguy 04-02-2008 12:19 PM

Nice one Hal. How many pretty pennies did that Domain cost.

MsMaryxxx 04-02-2008 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LB-69 (Post 14020781)
"range of perversions" ? All i see in tour is guys fucking gals and cum on their faces. Please explain.

The first Tour may seem a bit the same, but every video on this site is unique, showcasing each girl's special talents.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 04-02-2008 02:11 PM

Hal, a few comments/suggestions...with a little rant thrown in, since your site hit a raw nerve in me (a personal note: I lived in Japan for five years, still travel there frequently, and my wife is Japanese).

First, you have a Chinese American woman pictured at the top of your site's splash page (and on tour pages). Many English speaking people with an active interest in the Asian niche (whom I assume is your primary target audience) will recognize her immediately as Evelyn Lin (she's one of the biggest porn actresses in the niche). This might cause them to assume that your site is just another one of the knock-off Asian sites with little actual exclusive content (lots of those in the Asian niche).

Your pic:

http://www.fuckjapan.com/front1/images/top_15.jpg

One of my exclusive pics of Evelyn:

http://www.asiandivagirls.com/tour/m...n/evelyn01.jpg

Another issue which may cost you some sales, is the usage of the Kyokujitsu-ki flag:

http://www.fuckjapan.com/front1/images/top_07.gif

In case you were unaware, that is the military flag of the Japanese Navy. It was used by the Imperial Navy during WWII to reflect the Rising Sun (the red disc on the Japanese national flag), stretching out in all directions.

It had very negative imperialist connotations throughout Asia, and was banned for several years after WWII. Many people still have issues with this flag (considering it akin to a Nazi swastika), althought the Japanese Naval Self-Defense Force has re-adopted it.

I personally am offended that FlashCash chose to name the site, Fuck Japan. It sounds like a declarative statement. Japan Fuck, or almost anything else would have been better. As it stands, it sounds racist to me. It would be like naming a site Fuck America, with a Confederate flag, a swastika, or a Soviet star, hammer and sickle, superimposed on the US flag.

I'm also pretty sure the Japanese Navy would take offense at your logo, which consists of your site name, Fuck Japan, splashed over their Ensign (flag), but perhaps FlashCash doesn't care.

Finally, some of the text is patently offensive:

"Horny Jap Pussies Get Stuffed!"

I would assume that you know "Jap" is a racist term.

Of all people, I would have expected more sensitivity from you Hal, although perhaps you had nothing to do with this branding and marketing.

I still love you man, but I will love you more if you can convince your company to make a few changes to the FJ site design, if not come up with an entirely different name.

:2 cents:

ADG

Halcyon 04-02-2008 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 14021299)
Hal, a few comments/suggestions...with a little rant thrown in, since your site hit a raw nerve in me (a personal note: I lived in Japan for five years, still travel there frequently, and my wife is Japanese).

First, you have a Chinese American woman pictured at the top of your site's splash page (and on tour pages). Many English speaking people with an active interest in the Asian niche (whom I assume is your primary target audience) will recognize her immediately as Evelyn Lin (she's one of the biggest porn actresses in the niche). This might cause them to assume that your site is just another one of the knock-off Asian sites with little actual exclusive content (lots of those in the Asian niche).

Your pic:

http://www.fuckjapan.com/front1/images/top_15.jpg

One of my exclusive pics of Evelyn:

http://www.asiandivagirls.com/tour/m...n/evelyn01.jpg

Another issue which may cost you some sales, is the usage of the Kyokujitsu-ki flag:

http://www.fuckjapan.com/front1/images/top_07.gif

In case you were unaware, that is the military flag of the Japanese Navy. It was used by the Imperial Navy during WWII to reflect the Rising Sun (the red disc on the Japanese national flag), stretching out in all directions.

It had very negative imperialist connotations throughout Asia, and was banned for several years after WWII. Many people still have issues with this flag (considering it akin to a Nazi swastika), althought the Japanese Naval Self-Defense Force has re-adopted it.

I personally am offended that FlashCash chose to name the site, Fuck Japan. It sounds like a declarative statement. Japan Fuck, or almost anything else would have been better. As it stands, it sounds racist to me. It would be like naming a site Fuck America, with a Confederate flag, a swastika, or a Soviet star, hammer and sickle, superimposed on the US flag.

I'm also pretty sure the Japanese Navy would take offense at your logo, which consists of your site name, Fuck Japan, splashed over their Ensign (flag), but perhaps FlashCash doesn't care.

Finally, some of the text is patently offensive:

"Horny Jap Pussies Get Stuffed!"

I would assume that you know "Jap" is a racist term.

Of all people, I would have expected more sensitivity from you Hal, although perhaps you had nothing to do with this branding and marketing.

I still love you man, but I will love you more if you can convince your company to make a few changes to the FJ site design, if not come up with an entirely different name.

:2 cents:

ADG

Thanks so much for the info! To be honest, I am painfully ignorant of the niche.

I will make sure the designer and decision makers see your post.

Halcyon 04-02-2008 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 14021299)

One of my exclusive pics of Evelyn:

http://www.asiandivagirls.com/tour/m...n/evelyn01.jpg

ADG


p.s. That pic is HOT!

L-Pink 04-02-2008 02:32 PM

Would be a great name for an all Chinese porn site. Fuck Japan we have better women kind of thing.

stickyfingerz 04-02-2008 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 14021299)
Hal, a few comments/suggestions...with a little rant thrown in, since your site hit a raw nerve in me (a personal note: I lived in Japan for five years, still travel there frequently, and my wife is Japanese).

First, you have a Chinese American woman pictured at the top of your site's splash page (and on tour pages). Many English speaking people with an active interest in the Asian niche (whom I assume is your primary target audience) will recognize her immediately as Evelyn Lin (she's one of the biggest porn actresses in the niche). This might cause them to assume that your site is just another one of the knock-off Asian sites with little actual exclusive content (lots of those in the Asian niche).

Your pic:

http://www.fuckjapan.com/front1/images/top_15.jpg

One of my exclusive pics of Evelyn:

http://www.asiandivagirls.com/tour/m...n/evelyn01.jpg

Another issue which may cost you some sales, is the usage of the Kyokujitsu-ki flag:

http://www.fuckjapan.com/front1/images/top_07.gif

In case you were unaware, that is the military flag of the Japanese Navy. It was used by the Imperial Navy during WWII to reflect the Rising Sun (the red disc on the Japanese national flag), stretching out in all directions.

It had very negative imperialist connotations throughout Asia, and was banned for several years after WWII. Many people still have issues with this flag (considering it akin to a Nazi swastika), althought the Japanese Naval Self-Defense Force has re-adopted it.

I personally am offended that FlashCash chose to name the site, Fuck Japan. It sounds like a declarative statement. Japan Fuck, or almost anything else would have been better. As it stands, it sounds racist to me. It would be like naming a site Fuck America, with a Confederate flag, a swastika, or a Soviet star, hammer and sickle, superimposed on the US flag.

I'm also pretty sure the Japanese Navy would take offense at your logo, which consists of your site name, Fuck Japan, splashed over their Ensign (flag), but perhaps FlashCash doesn't care.

Finally, some of the text is patently offensive:

"Horny Jap Pussies Get Stuffed!"

I would assume that you know "Jap" is a racist term.

Of all people, I would have expected more sensitivity from you Hal, although perhaps you had nothing to do with this branding and marketing.

I still love you man, but I will love you more if you can convince your company to make a few changes to the FJ site design, if not come up with an entirely different name.

:2 cents:

ADG

Yes because Japan is so welcoming of other countries and are not xenophobic racists right? :uhoh pfft. Japan is comparable to the United States in the south in the 50's or 60's. They put up a great front, but sorry the majority of the country are silent racists that believe that Japan is the best race and their laws and customs reflect that. You are worried about a pornsite offending the Japanese? Seriously? You want to be offended go walk in an adult video store in Japan and look at some of the dvds they have there for sale. pfft pfft and pfft. If you lived their for 5 years you should be WELL aware of what Japan is really like.

The Ghost 04-02-2008 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 14021423)
Yes because Japan is so welcoming of other countries and are not xenophobic racists right? :uhoh pfft. Japan is comparable to the United States in the south in the 50's or 60's. They put up a great front, but sorry the majority of the country are silent racists that believe that Japan is the best race and their laws and customs reflect that. You are worried about a pornsite offending the Japanese? Seriously? You want to be offended go walk in an adult video store in Japan and look at some of the dvds they have there for sale. pfft pfft and pfft. If you lived their for 5 years you should be WELL aware of what Japan is really like.

The point is making sure the site sells as well as possible. ADGWD has some very valid points on the styling and text. Simple tweaks that will get more joins.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 04-02-2008 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halcyon (Post 14021335)
Thanks so much for the info! To be honest, I am painfully ignorant of the niche.

I will make sure the designer and decision makers see your post.

Thanks Hal... <hug>

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 14021423)
Japan is comparable to the United States in the south in the 50's or 60's. They put up a great front, but sorry the majority of the country are silent racists that believe that Japan is the best race and their laws and customs reflect that.

:error

Even if your ignorant closet racist observations were correct (and they aren't), that still wouldn't make it right to call a Japanese person a "Jap".

Stinky, I hope you don't call your Japanese wife or your half-Japanese kids, Jap.

In addition to being called out as a liar and thief, you have proven once again that you are an idiot!

ADG

fluffygrrl 04-02-2008 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 14021423)
Yes because Japan is so welcoming of other countries and are not xenophobic racists right? :uhoh pfft. Japan is comparable to the United States in the south in the 50's or 60's. They put up a great front, but sorry the majority of the country are silent racists that believe that Japan is the best race and their laws and customs reflect that. You are worried about a pornsite offending the Japanese? Seriously? You want to be offended go walk in an adult video store in Japan and look at some of the dvds they have there for sale. pfft pfft and pfft. If you lived their for 5 years you should be WELL aware of what Japan is really like.

Seriously, what difference does that make? You want to sell or rave?

stickyfingerz 04-02-2008 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 14021536)
Thanks Hal... <hug>



:error

Even if your ignorant closet racist observations were correct (and they aren't), that still wouldn't make it right to call a Japanese person a "Jap".

Stinky, I hope you don't call your Japanese wife or your half-Japanese kids, Jap.

In addition to being called out as a liar and thief, you have proven once again that you are an idiot!

ADG

I keep forgetting you are a douche bag. Wait no I dont ... You ARE a douche bag I did not forget. Douche bag.:321GFY

stickyfingerz 04-02-2008 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fluffygrrl (Post 14021630)
Seriously, what difference does that make? You want to sell or rave?

Kind of my point. Does he get all up in the grills of people pushing Black sites that use racial terms? Nope. You are selling porn here not trying to be fucking politically correct, and people that try to ACT pc piss me off. :2 cents:

Halcyon 04-02-2008 04:39 PM

Thanks for the write up, AVN!!!

http://avn.com/internet/articles/29359.html

fluffygrrl 04-02-2008 10:42 PM

Yea, but see, you got it ass backwards... nobody's trying to sell porn to black people by calling them hahahahahahas. So how's this guy going to sell anything to the Japanese off a FuckJapan website I have no idea.

Can't believe they're still hahaha-ing that.

NoWhErE 04-02-2008 10:53 PM

Keep in mind that the special thing about fuckJapan.com is the fact that its authentic japanese porn! (without the mosaic censoring!)


Here's a trailer I put together for the site : FUCK JAPAN TRAILER

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 04-02-2008 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoWhErE (Post 14022878)
Here's a trailer I put together for the site : FUCK JAPAN TRAILER

Nice trailer...

Quote:

Originally Posted by fluffygrrl (Post 14021630)
Seriously, what difference does that make? You want to sell or rave?

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 14021823)
Kind of my point. Does he get all up in the grills of people pushing Black sites that use racial terms? Nope. You are selling porn here not trying to be fucking politically correct, and people that try to ACT pc piss me off. :2 cents:

Quote:

Originally Posted by fluffygrrl (Post 14022853)
Yea, but see, you got it ass backwards... nobody's trying to sell porn to black people by calling them hahahahahahas. So how's this guy going to sell anything to the Japanese off a FuckJapan website I have no idea.

LOL, Fluffygirl - I knew you were talking about Stinky's post and not mine, so I figured let him stick his foot in his mouth (again), because gosh darn it, he's just dense that way. :1orglaugh

I don't think the target audience is primarily Japanese, but if it were, then you are correct - I think I would certainly be insulted if I was Japanese.

Honestly, I believe that many English speaking Westerners will also be turned off by some of the language and branding. I have no problem with the porn, I was simply concerned about what I perceived to be racist overtones.

I seriously doubt that very many people would join the site because they are truly racist against Japanese people, so why appeal to that?

Flashcash is certainly not the only site in the Asian niche that has used racist language/attitudes/symbols. Misogynist directed racism (where Asians are expolited by non-Asians) is an even bigger and more prevalent problem in the Asian niche, although the adult industry as a whole could do better than it does to discourage misogyny.

I don't think Hal believes I got up in his grill. I was respectful, as I expected that he would at least take some action on my comments (which he did), since from my experience, he is a sensitive and caring person.

It's not about being "Politically Correct" (the catch-all rightwing pejorative buzzword people like Stinky use to excuse all kinds of bigotry, chauvinism, misogyny, and intolerance).

It's about not coming off as racist.

If FlashCash makes some minor changes to their site, as I suggested, then I think they will make more money.

ADG

NoWhErE 04-03-2008 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 14022984)
Nice trailer...







LOL, Fluffygirl - I knew you were talking about Stinky's post and not mine, so I figured let him stick his foot in his mouth (again), because gosh darn it, he's just dense that way. :1orglaugh

I don't think the target audience is primarily Japanese, but if it were, then you are correct - I think I would certainly be insulted if I was Japanese.

Honestly, I believe that many English speaking Westerners will also be turned off by some of the language and branding. I have no problem with the porn, I was simply concerned about what I perceived to be racist overtones.

I seriously doubt that very many people would join the site because they are truly racist against Japanese people, so why appeal to that?

Flashcash is certainly not the only site in the Asian niche that has used racist language/attitudes/symbols. Misogynist directed racism (where Asians are expolited by non-Asians) is an even bigger and more prevalent problem in the Asian niche, although the adult industry as a whole could do better than it does to discourage misogyny.

I don't think Hal believes I got up in his grill. I was respectful, as I expected that he would at least take some action on my comments (which he did), since from my experience, he is a sensitive and caring person.

It's not about being "Politically Correct" (the catch-all rightwing pejorative buzzword people like Stinky use to excuse all kinds of bigotry, chauvinism, misogyny, and intolerance).

It's about not coming off as racist.

If FlashCash makes some minor changes to their site, as I suggested, then I think they will make more money.

ADG



Note that you have been listened and we will most likely optmize the tour after getting your and other webmaster's feedback.

The target audience is mainly american men with a fetish for Japanese girls. The site includes Japanese girls engaged in all types of sexual activites. Its pure, uncensored porn straight from Japan: something that is a rare find.

Halcyon 04-03-2008 10:04 AM

I just want to mention that SALES, not sensitivity, is the top priority of this (and all) FLASHCA$H sites.

If the tone of the tour/name/imagery does not add to the customer's fantasy and increase sales for our webmasters, then we will make whatever changes needed to maximize everyone's revenue.

Just as "MyDaughterisFucking a _____.com is not geared towards a target market of civil rights activists, neither is FuckJapan intended for Japanese Culture enthusiasts.

But even so, we recognize that the fantasy world of porn allows consumers to explore many avenues of deviance that are not cool in daily life.

I would never say, "Take this, you dirty whore!" at the bank, but it certainly can be okay in the bedroom...and in porn fantasy.

fluffygrrl 04-03-2008 01:01 PM

Incidentally, that always gets a chuckle out of me ... Guy's sticking his cock in.. "Take this you dirty whore" .. takes it out, puts it in again...

Hmm...

Why not just scream out "A pox on you and a wart on anyone stickin it in you" while doing her?

Violetta 04-03-2008 01:25 PM

very nice domain! :)

Halcyon 04-03-2008 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fluffygrrl (Post 14025214)
Incidentally, that always gets a chuckle out of me ... Guy's sticking his cock in.. "Take this you dirty whore" .. takes it out, puts it in again...

Hmm...

Why not just scream out "A pox on you and a wart on anyone stickin it in you" while doing her?


hmmmm.... "Pox Porn!" You may be on to the something!

"A plague upon your vagina!!!!"

Mister E 04-03-2008 02:50 PM

Holy fuck, it's not like Flash Cash invented polio.

Damn, so serious are we!!!

They are a great company, solid people and (truth be told) I willsay or do whatever it takes to seduce Jan (cause she's right upstairs).

Free speech = free thinkers

fluffygrrl 04-03-2008 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halcyon (Post 14025599)
hmmmm.... "Pox Porn!" You may be on to the something!

"A plague upon your vagina!!!!"

A sprout off all your holes and a purple growth upon that ;)

DWB 04-03-2008 03:08 PM

Being that I have made the bulk of my money over the past several years in the Asian niche (online, dvd, broadcast, ppv and vod), I have to agree with some of what AsianDivaGirlsWebDude said IF you want to come off as an authentic site and get a lot of Japanese customers.

With that said, in my experience Japanese customers are some of the best rebillers in the WORLD!!! We have many Japanese customers who have rebilled with some of our sites for 2+ years. You just can't beat that anywhere. So I would at the very least try not to offend them even if they are often racists themselves and have an elitist attitude towards the rest of the world. If sales are the bottom line, don't offend them.

When it comes to Americans and Europeans, fuck us, we will buy almost anything UNLESS they are true Asiafiles. If the latter is the case the Chinese girl in the header is a give away that the site may not be authentic.

To the average Joe, it's a fantastic looking site and all Asians look alike anyway.

Kudos on getting your hands on Japanese content. It's not easy to come by. With a few tweaks I think this will be a killer site. If anyone there wants to shoot the shit offline about how to help tweak it, hit me up, I have a lot of experience selling both Japanese and Thai content. My Thai sites, even though they are older ALWAYS convert under 1:400 and our Japanese site was at around 1:450 until the Chinese got ahold of us. God damn commie mutha fuckas.

Tweak that shit and rake it in man. I personally think the Asian nich is the best.

WWC 04-03-2008 11:54 PM

Great content :winkwink:

viencarl 04-04-2008 04:20 AM

Nice site love the samurai chick :):):)

DWB 04-04-2008 02:21 PM

I think someone from your camp hit me up about fuckjapan.com, but my ICQ crashed and I lost it.

Please try again or send me mail at digitaldopemedia at yahoo dot com

Thanks.

webgurl 04-04-2008 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoWhErE (Post 14024371)
Its pure, uncensored porn straight from Japan: something that is a rare find.

nope not anymore i have 2 japanese sites and the past couple yrs
the japanese market has opened its doors to the american market
and selling the license to their studios . CHeckout WWC they have signed
on with Oriental Dreams now ... WOOT
There are many ilegal japanese paysites that are from jacked content .
Its clear you don't know much about the asian/japanese market but
dont worry about it not alot do .

Anyways , HAL hit me on icq can't find you on my list ....


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