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NKYKev 04-01-2008 07:07 AM

Petition to Adobe and Macromedia for Linux versions
 
For the Linux users out there, here is an online petition asking for them to make Linux versions of Dreamweaver, Flash, Premiere, etc. I agree with the sentiment there - it is the lack of creative software such as this that is holding back Linux adoption.

beta-tester 04-01-2008 07:32 AM

i agree either.... will sign petition for sure

the alchemist 04-01-2008 08:04 AM

Signed :thumbsup

tony286 04-01-2008 09:01 AM

I wonder how hard is that for them to do?

Yoni 04-01-2008 09:15 AM

add one more request: licenses for Adobe products should be transferable. As far as I know, you need to get new ones if switching to another platform like from PC to Mac.

candyflip 04-01-2008 09:16 AM

Using Crossover or Wine, all of these are able to be run on Linux if you are really wanting them and don't want to wait for Adobe.

woj 04-01-2008 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 14007347)
Using Crossover or Wine, all of these are able to be run on Linux if you are really wanting them and don't want to wait for Adobe.

There is too much jumping through hoops, I guess that's what part of being a linux user is about... but going through 20 steps so I can fire up dreamweaver just to find out some of the features don't even work and cause dreamweaver to crash isn't really my thing...

candyflip 04-01-2008 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj (Post 14007488)
There is too much jumping through hoops, I guess that's what part of being a linux user is about... but going through 20 steps so I can fire up dreamweaver just to find out some of the features don't even work and cause dreamweaver to crash isn't really my thing...

I had no issues using a "portable" version of DW and wine. Had to jump through a few hoops, but like you said...that's part of being a Linux user. While it's not the best solution, it is viable. I don't think Adobe will be doing anything with Linux anytime soon.

Jace 04-01-2008 10:14 AM

but wait, every linux user I ever talk to says they don't need it because linux has such great built in apps, or the open source apps are so amazing? haha

tony286 04-01-2008 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jace (Post 14007803)
but wait, every linux user I ever talk to says they don't need it because linux has such great built in apps, or the open source apps are so amazing? haha

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:thumbsup

candyflip 04-01-2008 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jace (Post 14007803)
but wait, every linux user I ever talk to says they don't need it because linux has such great built in apps, or the open source apps are so amazing? haha

For 99% of anything I've tried to do on Linux, this is definitely the case. But, there are just a few apps that you just can't really duplicate (ie. Photoshop, Flash, Dreamweaver, etc)...if you're resourceful and have some patience, you can manage.

baddog 04-01-2008 10:59 AM

Yeah, I am sure they will get right on that.

SuzzyQ 04-01-2008 11:42 AM

Signed and Crossover works great with all the above. I am using Dreamweaver, Flash CS3 and Photoshop under Fedora with Crossover. Works great. No Problems getting them to work

:thumbsup

Jim_Gunn 04-01-2008 11:47 AM

Just get yourself a cheap Win XP pc and network it to your Linux pcs if possible. Why jump through hoops to try to make it work with Linux or convince Adobe to make it work with Linux which they can't be bothered with?

TheLegacy 04-01-2008 11:48 AM

Yep nothing like a petition with no seed money to get a program off the ground

payd2purv 04-01-2008 11:50 AM

Anyone who thinks they are going to port to linux is bonkers.

I don't even know where to begin on that one.

GrouchyAdmin 04-01-2008 12:05 PM

Haahaaahahaaa. Oh man, April is always awesome.

NKYKev 04-01-2008 06:27 PM

Well, Adobe has just joined the Linux Foundation and has announced plans to port Adobe Air to Linux. As for other applications, who knows. But it is a start.

Progress takes time. No one thought that a major PC maker would sell Linux desktops and laptops either - but when enough people requested it on Dell's request blog, Dell started selling them. But I guess those people were just wasting their time, huh?

I find it a bit ironic that so many people who almost certainly host their sites on Linux servers are so negative towards it. If you think Windows is so much better, are you using IIS?

Catalyst 04-01-2008 06:35 PM

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woj 04-01-2008 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by socalkev (Post 14012037)
I find it a bit ironic that so many people who almost certainly host their sites on Linux servers are so negative towards it. If you think Windows is so much better, are you using IIS?

Linux is great as a server operating system, for desktop use (for unsophisticated users) it's ok at best... ease of use and compatibility with stuff is not even in the same league as windows...

GrouchyAdmin 04-01-2008 06:50 PM

Look, Kev - I'm a dork, I'm paid to be so.

However, the word is not, and will never adopt Linux for desktop use. It has less of a foothold than Macs, and many companies have dropped Mac because it wasn't worth their time. That they're willing to even bother continue giving us Flash is almost amazing. See also: Java and BSD.

NKYKev 04-01-2008 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj (Post 14012134)
Linux is great as a server operating system, for desktop use (for unsophisticated users) it's ok at best... ease of use and compatibility with stuff is not even in the same league as windows...

I find it pretty easy to use on the desktop, but would agree that Windows is easier as of now. But if major software developers like Adobe are involved, there is a good chance that situation will change. I see no reason why the desktop versions could not be improved.

The alternative is what - buy a Mac or just take whatever Microsoft decides to shove down your throat? Now that Microsoft is attacking Adobe's Flash with their Silverlight product, maybe Adobe is starting to question how much of a benefit it might be to encourage Linux and Apple development. They might remember what happened to Netscape.

bufferover 04-01-2008 07:45 PM

Got my vote :winkwink:

brandonstills 04-01-2008 08:23 PM

We all know Linux users don't pay for anything. lol

Does it work in Wine?

GrouchyAdmin 04-01-2008 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brandonstills (Post 14012611)
Does it work in Wine?

Does anything? SOL.EXE baby!

chelo - adultcopywriters 04-01-2008 09:06 PM

Adobe has not even made a 64 bit version of their flash plugin for browsers. I can't imagine why, since they're not only leaving aside all AMD 64bit processor's users but also those users who use Windows XP or Vista in their 64bit versions and hope to improve their computer's performance using 64bit applications. Of course windows has a way to use the 32bit version of the plugin, something that does not happen in Linux. The use of flash is so widespread today that not having it installed in your browser is a total nightmare, just as an example... you can't even see youtube videos!

So judging from this way of doing things I don't think they'll do CS3 or DW for linux in the near future. Nevertheless you got my vote, as someone said above, if they joined the Linux Foundation, maybe we're witnessing the beginning of a change in Adobe.

Catalyst 04-01-2008 09:38 PM

Yea.. but that is not saying much.. I agree with you.. as a x64 user.. life here sucks.. canon doesn't make may drivers.. Adobe is all x86.. acdsee is all x86.. nero.. x86.. itune ( for xp not vista) is x86.. and the list goes on and on..

however.. nero created an linux version.. symantec made a linux version.. so it may be a back burner project for adobe.. but maybe one day..


Quote:

Originally Posted by chelo - adultcopywriters (Post 14012866)
Adobe has not even made a 64 bit version of their flash plugin for browsers. I can't imagine why, since they're not only leaving aside all AMD 64bit processor's users but also those users who use Windows XP or Vista in their 64bit versions and hope to improve their computer's performance using 64bit applications. Of course windows has a way to use the 32bit version of the plugin, something that does not happen in Linux. The use of flash is so widespread today that not having it installed in your browser is a total nightmare, just as an example... you can't even see youtube videos!

So judging from this way of doing things I don't think they'll do CS3 or DW for linux in the near future. Nevertheless you got my vote, as someone said above, if they joined the Linux Foundation, maybe we're witnessing the beginning of a change in Adobe.


kmanrox 04-01-2008 11:07 PM

signed! thx

GrouchyAdmin 04-01-2008 11:20 PM

WHERE IS DREAMWEAVER FOR GEM DESKTOP!!?!!?!!! Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

GrouchyAdmin 04-01-2008 11:27 PM

Dear Adobe,

Please release a flash player for AmigaDOS 3.1+. Any of the following TCP stacks are fine:

3735, MiamiDX, AmiTCP, EasyTCP, and AmigaDOS 3.5+.

Thank you.

wheaties 04-01-2008 11:35 PM

There is a photoshop-like program native to linux called GIMP, it's very feature rich, except after spending 10 years using photoshop, I don't want to relearn how to do everything!

It would be cool if photoshop would run without wine in linux. If Mac osX is based on BSD, it doesn't seem as daunting a task to port to another POSIX system.

No doubt linux is a strong server platform. As far as the desktop is concerned, linux has lots of potential, but it still needs to hide complexity from normal users before it's ready for the masses.

Check out this Compiz Fusion demo, I had Compiz running, the cube desktop rotation is fun, but now I'm using a super low resource window manager called DWM

youtube.com/watch?v=E4Fbk52Mk1w
suckless.org/wiki/dwm

Kroy 04-02-2008 12:04 AM

I signed it. Just because you make something for Linux doesn't mean you can't charge for it.
As a matter of fact, there are already Linux based editing programs for professionals (like Piranha). But at 5 digit pricing that's just not in everybody's budget.

Many if not most visual effects companies already work on Linux, usually using custom programs, or non-free programs like Combustion, Mental Ray, and Maya. So yes, Linux is a very viable option for creative professionals.

More info on VFX/editing on Linux:
http://linuxgazette.net/147/rowe.html

GrouchyAdmin 04-02-2008 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wheaties (Post 14013242)
There is a photoshop-like program native to linux called GIMP, it's very feature rich, except after spending 10 years using photoshop, I don't want to relearn how to do everything!

Look for 'gimpshop'; the menus and shortcuts have been modified to be familiar; everything I've done in the last year (including this shitty avatar) has been done in GimpShop. It's not PS, but it.. usually works.

D Ghost 04-02-2008 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Catalyst (Post 14012087)
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:thumbsup

ucv.karl 04-02-2008 01:39 AM

I am using debian and this works for me:

apt-get install dreamweaver

If you are using fedora core, you should use yum

e.g.:

yum install flash\ 9
yum install adobe\ premiere

There seems to be a glibc problem when installing Final Cut Pro, but I am sure that will be fixed in a few weeks.

Rorschach 04-02-2008 02:39 AM

Dreamweaver was one of the main reasons I shifted to a Mac after working primarily on linux for a number of years... Yes you can run DW on linux, but it runs like shit, lots of lagging and CPU thrashing, buggy dialogues and shit just not working right. On the Mac, you can still use all the open source stuff, lots of terminals, just like a unix desktop... but dreamweaver and photoshop and all those other handy gui apps work just how they're supposed to, and everything is nicely integrated with the file manager and OS as a whole. My productivity is waaay higher on my Mac, it was a great investment.

viencarl 04-02-2008 06:14 AM

I'm not a Linux user but for the benefit of my friends using Linux I signed in :):):)

bobby666 04-02-2008 09:06 AM

i even haven't yet signed into linux


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