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signupdamnit 03-07-2008 02:36 PM

Which sponsor can you just not convert?
 
Pimproll. All time:

1:5700

And I promote at least a dozen of their sites in some form. Next worse sponsor has a ratio of 1:1500 all time so no one else even comes close. :( Maybe it is just me. I'm thinking it might have to do with most of their sites that I promote being rather vanilla whereas I have more experience converting fetish traffic.

What's yours and do you have an explanation for it (other than shaving accusations unless you have proof as per the GFY rules)?

tranza 03-07-2008 02:42 PM

JuggCash.

I tried pretty much all their sites. There's one site of them that I'm at 1:9000 if I'm not mistaken.

:(

Cash 03-07-2008 03:28 PM

nasty dollars ... and with a bad support.

Twig 03-07-2008 03:32 PM

Odd, I convert NastyDollars easy. JuggCash is pretty bad for me though.

Dagwolf 03-07-2008 03:33 PM

I don't want to give my worst sponsor the publicity. Most people have never heard of them anyway.

baddog 03-07-2008 03:34 PM

Seems to be Melissa Midwest for me.

Socks 03-07-2008 03:34 PM

Weird, didn't rabbits post saying juggcash was one of their top sponsors?

I don't promote them, just never got around to it.. I made a mental note like I should get on that though, but 1:9000? wowzers.. I never seen anything even close to that bad

The Judge 03-07-2008 03:37 PM

1:5000 is the norm these days for tgp traffic but Juggcash and Nastydollars are awesome programs and great general traffic converters.

Dollarmansteve 03-07-2008 03:46 PM

conversion is dependent on traffic source, period. If it weren't, then I would look at the stats every day and each individual affiliates conversion ratio would be within a small margin of error of the average conversion ratio.

This is not the case. Some traffic converts 1:5 and some converts 1:5000 - all 100% because of the source of traffic.

Traffic source can be broken into at least 2 levels. The first level being the general source (SE (organic, paid), TGP(galleries), exit consoles, etc). Then each of those sources is broken into each unique stream (ie the individual affiliate).

An affilaites traffic stream is highly dependent on where THEIR traffic comes from. For example, two affiliates could be promoting the same site and both get alot of organic SE traffic.. but it might be for different keywords. Therefore, the conversion ratios are different.

There is no way to disentangle all of the variables that affect conversion ratios on an hourly, daily or long-term time line. The fact that individual traffic streams display consistent behavior is in itself fascinating - especially if each traffic sample is highly unique (like say a site does 100k uniques per day.. and there's less than 30% common elements between daily sets.. yet the conversion ratios are within a small condifdence interval).

What I'm trying to say is - the data speaks for itself. The only thing you can say from your bad conversion ratio with pimproll is that YOUR particular source of traffic does not perform well with their sites.. and you'll never know why. It's such a cop out to think it's the sponsor's "fault" (that's not completely directed at you.. but to every affilaite who assumes they have a god given right to a particular conversion ratio...)

brand0n 03-07-2008 03:48 PM

i dont get it

if you dont convert with a sponsor + your traffic, switch until you find 1 that does.

Brujah 03-07-2008 03:51 PM

Don't rule out preselling the site, and a good filter. If your ratios are too high and your income parallels, try to implement a presell and join form combination if that's possible with your sponsor.

Markul 03-07-2008 03:52 PM

I convert Pimproll fine, but AdultElite I've made like $0.65 with 10K hits... go figure

IllTestYourGirls 03-07-2008 03:53 PM

Payserver 0:11476 and counting. I think I have a few links on some of my blogs somewhere still sending traffic. :(

jollyperv 03-07-2008 04:27 PM

brazzers

signupdamnit 03-07-2008 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Markul (Post 13892447)
I convert Pimproll fine, but AdultElite I've made like $0.65 with 10K hits... go figure

And with Adult Elite (same owners as pimproll) I do 1:650.

Go figure. :1orglaugh

Pokey the Turtle 03-07-2008 04:40 PM

strange how some sponsors do great for you...but others just don't work

although seemingly the content and the tours you send the surfers on are just as good or even better...

Jace 03-07-2008 04:43 PM

Adult Players Club - 0:18,613
and
4 Real Cash - 0:5,5591

I pulled 4 real cash in time, but APC I totally missed until it got to almost 20k

ScareCrowe 03-07-2008 05:02 PM

Great Explanation Dollarmansteve!

I want to throw a twist in there though, see if what I am thinking is along the right lines or not......

I have an affiliate ( no names ) that promotes us on one of his TGPs, and we also have a paid spot in the top 10 on same TGP.

Now, the ratios are:
1:1849 for his referrals (main page, near mid/bottom, and archives)
0:42000 for our topspot listing (main page, very top )

Since both of these are being seen by the exact same traffic, in your opinion, what would cause the ratios to be so drastically different?

kektex 03-07-2008 05:54 PM

PanchoDog for me. Its abysmal.
The girls are smoking hot and I just can´t seem to send a single sale.

Markul 03-07-2008 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 13892623)
And with Adult Elite (same owners as pimproll) I do 1:650.

Go figure. :1orglaugh

Yea lol, I guess we all attract our "own kind of surfers"... :pimp

tabasco 03-07-2008 06:12 PM

Horror ratios from 2008. Take your pick.

Elite Dollars 0:12,009
Adult Empire 1:9,459 (that 1 sale came in the first 50 hits.. yay welcome sale!)
Adult Paymaster 1:9,459
Bad Girl Bucks 1:7,396
Score Cash 0:9,583
Dream Cash 1:12,623
Grooby Bucks 1:14,915 (was doing really well with them, sales came to a grinding halt).

tehHinjew 03-07-2008 06:16 PM

movie profits

baddog 03-07-2008 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tabasco (Post 13893008)
Adult Paymaster 1:9,459

hmmm, when my ratios go higher than 1:50 I have them check to make sure something isn't wrong with the tracking.

Shoplifter 03-07-2008 06:19 PM

Pretty much any of the bigger NATs / Bromaster style programs sell crappy for me. I do better with CCBill.

baX 03-07-2008 06:23 PM

PussyCash (ImLive), SterlingCash and SilverCash all have over 0:5000 for me

Makaveli 03-07-2008 06:37 PM

Slick Cash.

Guys find niche recurring with exclusive content programs on Ccbill or Epoch and pound it. Watch the signs roll in. After a year or so of steady pushing of that site/s that gets joins you be getting paid for it years down the road... All these programs push the same type of content that is everywhere. People blame Tube sites but that's not really the problem with your "down swing" the problem is every site looks the same these days.... Think outside the box, never follow the crowd.

Peace, Im Out....

comeplay 03-07-2008 07:21 PM

I wish one of my fling free joins would switch to paid already.

http://comejerk.com/fling.jpg

Darkhorse 03-07-2008 09:12 PM

Juggcash.com Brazbucks.com panchodog.com all just don't convert for me, it's mainly blog/SE traffic.

GrouchyAdmin 03-07-2008 09:26 PM

FuckMeCash. :(

notoldschool 03-07-2008 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shoplifter (Post 13893025)
Pretty much any of the bigger NATs / Bromaster style programs sell crappy for me. I do better with CCBill.

I find this hard to believe.

Antonio 03-08-2008 01:07 AM

I'm at 1:1258 with pimproll
and 1:538 with Adult Elite

If a sponsor has like 50 sites it's normal that one site will do 1:5000 and another 1:400

with that said judging by my sales this month I'll have to sell oranges in the summer just to get by ;(

BAKO 03-08-2008 02:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by comeplay (Post 13893163)
I wish one of my fling free joins would switch to paid already.

http://comejerk.com/fling.jpg


My fling stats

195716 9229 1:21 858 1:228 :pimp:pimp

Iron Fist 03-08-2008 02:10 AM

BrainCash... 1:7367 all time... those solo girls just don't convert for me at ALL and I love them! Ridiculous.

http://www.nnteenmodels.net/gfy/813443.jpg

Markul 03-08-2008 04:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WWC-Bako (Post 13893928)
My fling stats

195716 9229 1:21 858 1:228 :pimp:pimp

That's some mighty good ratiosimo, I'm on 1:49 free 1:866 paid :Oh crap

mr.K© 03-08-2008 05:17 AM

Perfectgonzo 1:9000

SexPromo 03-08-2008 05:19 AM

Mtree and IWantu :(

HairToStay 03-08-2008 05:53 AM

So far this year with Vixeo
0:20823 (5 rebills, though)

Markul 03-08-2008 05:56 AM

Oh OcCash is at 0:8312 for me :(

Nicky 03-08-2008 07:10 AM

Hollywood traffic 0:4100 last month, that's mostly SE traffic.

Twig 03-08-2008 12:19 PM

haha, AdultPlatform is at like 1:5000 for me.
Does anyone else promote them?


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