LionDollars Program Closes Affiliate Signups Effective Immediately !!!
 

Existing Affiliates Have Already Received This Release by Email

PRESS RELEASE FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

LionDollars Program Closes Affiliate Signups Effective Immediately

CYBERSPACE, February 2008 - The LionDollars webmaster affiliate program has announced that, effective immediately, they will no longer being allowing affiliates to sign up for their long standing and highly successful adult dating, escort directory, solo girl and adult website affiliate program.

For the past 18 months, the LionDollars team has been working feverishly on rebuilding the LionDollars webmaster program from the ground up, and are soon to release Version 4 of their highly successful program, and closing webmaster signups to the existing system in preparation for the transition to the new version is required for maximum effectiveness in the changeover.

"LionDollars V4 represents a fundamental shift in the business model that has underpinned the huge success and growth of LionDollars as a program and brand since it's inception in 2004", said Lindsay (CuriousToyBoy) of LionDollars. "The system has been rebuilt from the ground up, and is a totally separate system to the current system, and will provide some selected extremely powerful promotional tools from outset, but more importantly it provides the platform for the provision of an ever expanding range of new and exciting tools ongoing for webmasters to maximize their income from promoting us".

LionDollars V4 will be a "By Application Only" program, remaining now open application to experienced and newbie webmasters alike from anywhere, but with the approval process being vetted much more carefully to ensure maximum fraud prevention and program integrity ongoing.

Existing affiliates can apply to have their existing accounts ported over to the beta of V4 from the old system by sending their affiliate details to john AT liondollars.com for consideration - if applications from existing webmasters are not received before the start of the Beta period, they will be required to re-apply once the full launch is released.

Existing webmaster linking codes from the old system will be valid for six (6) weeks from the date of full V4 launch, to ensure existing webmasters do not lose out on their current links or accounts.

For more information visit www.LionDollars.com or contact CuriousToyBoy on [email protected], ICQ 293-070-684.

wow- you are not going to track the links beyond 6 weeks? that does not sound like an upgrade- it sounds like heist. we still are compatible with links from august of 1998 and it is not hard to track past links when you want to... did i misread that release?

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Does this mean you won't be spamming GFY as often as you guys do as non sponsors?? =]

This should be an interesting thread.

This should be a long thread

Well ..................

Risky move...... :2 cents:

If I was an affiliate I am not sure I would be happy with the 6 weeks limit.

well that explains my my account was never activated :disgust signed up like a month ago

I could touch this one Evan, but I won't.

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If you change over links there is no issue.

:2 cents:

That would probably mean we contacted you and you never replied to our email.

Always has been the way.

:2 cents:

Easier said than done with Gals....

Bottom Line - we will not be trying to be everything for everyone and we will be focussing our efforts on working closely with those people we can work with.

It's called targeted application of resources ;-)

We will not ever be able to make everyone happy all the time, or even most of time and probably not even some of the time.

So we CHOOSE to be all we can be for those that we are able to be all we can be for.

A quite logical repose if you think about it.

2c

hmmm you might be right. might have gotten sent to spam since i just searched thru there and saw the press release :1orglaugh

damn, oh well

Hit me on ICQ 293070684 and we'll see what we can do to get you through when we launch Beta.

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will do. thanks :)

I think thats a highly irresponsible take on the issue when it would not be that hard to implement on your side for version 4 so that your affiliates are not left holding the bag going back to change thousands of links and some of those in the case of galleries are not changeable.

If this is your take now, then whats to stop you from screwing over all your new affiliates once you decided version 4 is not good enough and its time for version 5?

Take the small hassle for you to get a programmer to properly back track the old links and keep everyone happy.

Always a pleasure ;-)

Now I am just about to go home to my family for the evening .. it's Wednesday night here, but I will be back bright and early in the morning to answer any questions or issues or comments anyone may have.

LionDollars never "run and hide" as others have been known to do :winkwink:

Anyone can contact me anytime on [email protected] or ICQ #293070684, [email protected] on MSN, GMM Toy Boy on AOL, CuriousToyBoy on Skype or GMMtoyboy on Yahoo.

(If I am not here when you message, just leave your questions/issues and I will respond as soon as I am back).

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I posted these response below elsewhere, but they are as pertinent here as anywhere else...

If we wanted to rip people off, we would just cut out all old sites and not provide any grace period for links to be adjusted now wouldn't we ? MANY have done just that in the past, we are not. 2c.

All of our old system links are individually encrypted for fraud protection. The ONLY way to continue tracking the old links to is to keep the ENTIRE old system side-by-side to the new one. Not viable and not logical. 6 weeks from the launch of Version 4 (not from NOW, from actual new system launch, so longer than 6 weeks in effect).

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If there are ANY affiliates of LionDollars out there that will have significant problems/loss associated with gallery links SPECIFICALLY, please hit me up direct and we will address on a case by case.

No one who has a reasonable and viable case will lose out.

I can personally guarantee that.

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lindsey, does this this mean you're also closing the 'free gay cyber sex for affiliates' program????? if so lmk so i can find some place else that offers this gratis

Good luck with the transition :)

Dude, for someone who has used galleries to promote you that just isnt possible, damn I would be gutted in the extreme.

OK, you posted whilst I did so that possibly addresses the concern.

Keith, THAT particular program will always remain open for those who know where to find it.

New link sent BTW ....

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Good now v4 is done so get back on my stuff! :pimp

Sorry mate.

Bottom line on the linking codes vs. galleries complaint is that pretty much EVERY existing affiliate that would have had any major problem or key concern with link code changes on galleries we have ALREADY spoken with and sorted arrangements to everyone's benefit.

If we missed anyone, and I do not think we did, I apologize, but hit me up now - or post away here, I doubt there will be anyone.

That is why we cut 6 weeks grace, and PLANNED all of this and COMMUNICATE freely.

I've been around a little longer than most ...

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Not done quite yet, but VERY close.

He he

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I ***REALLY*** am going home now ;-)

yeah umm not liking that one. you guys seem to be trying hard to turn away money :2 cents:

are those feeds ready ???

I actually did answer that issue in a post above...

Sorry mate.

Bottom line on the linking codes vs. galleries complaint is that pretty much EVERY existing affiliate that would have had any major problem or key concern with link code changes on galleries we have ALREADY spoken with and sorted arrangements to everyone's benefit.

If we missed anyone, and I do not think we did, I apologize, but hit me up now - or post away here, I doubt there will be anyone.

That is why we cut 6 weeks grace, and PLANNED all of this and COMMUNICATE freely.

I've been around a little longer than most ...

And the escort feeds will be available for Beta VERY shortly.

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I'll be in Costa Rica to discuss this with anyone who's coming.

You can absolutely be guaranteed that noone will lose out on this 6 week limit. If an issue exists with a webmaster who's sending traffic and making $$, we will make it right, no matter what it takes. That's what we do and what we've always done.

Hippy, the feeds aren't ready. But like we discussed...when they are, they'll be right. Unlike many of the programs who roll it out as is and then fix the problems as they go along, we're going to do it right the first time and that means testing it, smashing it, re-building it and then testing it again.

See y'all in CR tomorrow, if you've got questions...you know where to find me.

Awesome Z !

And for the benefit of Hippy and others...

"By Application" means exactly that, and part of our process is that full, complete and real details will nee to be provided by applicants as part of that process.

If you try and apply using ANY BS details, it of course will not be approved, AND it is LIKELY that any further application from you would also be denied.

We did not spend time, money and resources building a new business model to circumvent it at the first opportunity.

:2 cents:

I should just clarify that the escort feeds WILL be ready with V4 Beta launch in the next couple of days.

All this step that this thread is about is closing Version 3 and making that transition to V4.

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Making old links only last for 6 weeks is a blatant money grab. What could it possibe hurt to pay for those links, nothing except it means you have to pay for them. Countless other programs have switched programs and backends but their old links work to this day.

I have referal links from most sponsors listed in all 3 engines and a move like this would be theft in my eyes. I have a page 2 referal code listing to a site for a massive term and its been there for 3 years, they changed to nats midway, and those links still payout to the old links, why not, its my sales my traffic.

I'm sure its something you considered, but man, there is no reason at all to shut them links off after 6 weeks. Stuff like this is what makes me even wonder why i send sponsors traffic.

Definately add Lion Dollars to the "non search engine friendly" list.

Just read above about getting with the existing affiliates that would see a loss, i missed that, and my opinion was based befor seeing that, i still disagree with it i will add..lol

having my name brought up in regards to this, i think i should clarify what this is about so i do not come off as a shady webmaster in regards to details.

as many of you here at gfy have seen, info security with affiliate programs isn't top notch - i'm not saying this is the case with lion dollars. we've seen leaks, and we've seen the repercussions from the leaks. it isn't good or pretty, and to be honest it's a pain in the fucking ass for all parties involved.

that said, i requested a "test account" in so many words so i could verify will be LD providing me everything i needed in order to make myself, and them, cash with escorts. if the tools i need to promote aren't available, i wouldn't be signing up. this is simply to protect my own information - if i am not promoting, or working with a sponsor/company, they do not need my information. the application process would be the same, nothing would change, i would only verify i can actually work with the said program.

i would have preferred not to explain myself like this, publicly, but since my name was brought up in a light that seems to make me come off bad, i think it's warranted.

i personally do not feel this request is way out in left field. maybe it's an adult industry thing, and i'm a mainstream guy not use to these practices or rules.

again this wasn't meant as an attack, drama, or anything. i just want to clear things up.

take care, and good luck with v4 if we can't resolve things :thumbsup

and what will happened to the old links? will they just go dead, redirect, etc...? i don't see a reason why old links can stay online.

I'll make your version 1-2-3 links all compatible with "version 4" for free. LMK if you're interested. No catch, just hate seeing morons claim there is no way to make old links compatible when it's as easy as fuck.

We welcome diverse opinions but reverse the right to do as necessary and continue to do the right thing where we are able.

Like I said, we are ceasing trying to be all things for all people - the ones that we can work with shall reap the benefits of better focus and resorucing being more specific to THEIR needs.

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As I told you 15 ways already, we are not in the business of developing news systems just to immediately circumvent at the whim of someone who has NEVER done any business before.

As a "By Application Only" program we will ONLY work with webmasters WE want to, on a basis that WE want to.

If you think that is unreasonable, go somewhere else.

if you try us on and use BS details, you will get caught, and we will terminate forthwith all of current and future accounts.

How do you like them apples?

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I outlined the reasons above vis-avis the old system vs. the new system.

Like I said, ANYONE who would be affected has been contacted, and if we missed you, hit us up.

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how many ref links can one get in a post?

Thanks for the offer, but we use proprietary systems, with EACH link for EACH site for EACH affiliate generated and encrypted on the fly.

Hence the move to the new system.

Our decision is made, we stand by it, and we have no trouble communicating it and responding to your issues.

I have YET yo hear in any thread anywhere from a webmaster who currently sends us traffic that is going to lose out.

???

THEY are the only ones affected by this, and I will say again, we are confident we have contacted EVERY affected webmaster and sorted things to mutual satisfaction.

If we missed anyone - hit me up ASAP.

Otherwise, all arguments are really moot - if we are not hurting anyone who is a current affiliate, and new affiliates on the "By Application" process are not affected at all, where is the whole point?

If we were screwing 100's of people left right and centre I could fully understand.

We are not, so there is no REAL issue, just smoke and mirrors.

Go ahead, prove me wrong.

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I am yet to stretch that to tolerance, but will try harder next time.

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why do you insist on attacking me? i understand how your application system works. i understand the need for it, screening affiliates is always good.

would you buy a car without looking under the hood? it's the same thing. i would like to verify you guys have the tools i need to make YOU money. yes, it's an insane request, wanting to be sure of a product before using it, who would have thought! and i'm batshit crazy for wanting to protect my personal info in the adult industry, another insane notion! i think in these days a request like this isn't too left field, nor would it any extra effort to accommodate it. am i alone in the adult industry in thinking this?

c'mon now. i really don't want to turn this into a drama or anything like that. i'm not here to make enemies. i'm here to make money. so let's stop with the negative attitude, it doesn't get anyone anywhere.

Nice one mate. Got the email yesterday, including the line that I have been pre-approved to come aboard version 4.

A reminder for me to start sending you dating joins again. :)

-N

Good, I am glad you understand the system and need for it and why we won't circumvent it.

If you apply using real information and then are approved, YOU can decide whether to promote or not, that is always up to you, no question.

Links to example feeds and what not will be posted generally on launch of course, as they always would have been.

But remember we have designed a system specifically for our business needs and the needs of the affiliates that want to and are able to work with us.

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Awesome my friend.

Expect the next email announcing V4 Beta launched so you can login and play around VERY soon.

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i'm glad we're being more civil now. though i do not see how it is circumventing: if everything is on the up and up and it's a go with me, i WILL be signing up with my real info to go through the application process. i apologize if i did not make that clear, and you though i would be using a name like jim bob for the account.

viewing the feed link will most likely be enough for me to make a decision, but i would feel much better viewing the affiliate system as a whole.