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Temperature Monitors Report Widescale Global Cooling
I wonder if this will put an end to all the global warming hysteria. Probably not. :1orglaugh
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Fuck. I wonder if I can get a refund on the llama I just bought on ebay
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they're using the fear of environmental collapse to accelerate globalization and take away countries sovernity, so don't count on it
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Uv5cqh26CC0 |
It seems that at least one blogger's forgetting his Physics 101 lessons in thermodynamics.
To simplify things a bit: as the polar caps melt, they release cold air and currents, which affect the average global temperature. When the polar caps stop melting... lemme know. :2 cents: |
And to the OP:
next time, try linking matters such as these to peer-reviewed articles. Nothing else really has any credibility in scientific matters.... especially blogs. :2 cents: |
Global What??? Like anyone knows for sure what is happening. In the mean time people crying wolf will panic the sheep.......
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I'm waiting for it to be on FOX so I can believe it
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I'm old enough to remember in the late 1970's when I was in High School that all the scientists predicted we were headed for an Ice Age. It was even on the cover of TIME magazine. I guess they just sort of conveniently forgot about all of that. LOL! Anything to keep that grant money rolling in I suppose. A scientist has to make a living!
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If/when that view changes, my stance on the matter probably will along with it. Until then, I don't get why so many people pay attention to the latest blogger vying for attention over hundreds of articles that (for each article published) dozens, if not hundreds of independently oriented researches have scoured over to come to scientific agreement on. It really is enough to cause one to lose confidence in the intelligence of one's fellow man. |
Blogs ...... hahaha
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See you soon btw ;) Global warming is hours away now woot! hehe |
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Global warming does not mean that the entire earth is getting warmer but the average temp is getting warmer. In any one location it can get much warmer, much colder or no change at all. |
To be less wasteful and to get off the oil nipple. Even is it was total bullshit how is that bad?
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Nothing climactic or even really on a global scale.. just one winter in the U.S. Things tend to become more clear when you don't just look at the pictures, and actually stop and read the words, ya know. :2 cents: Even so, the whole global climate change (aka, "Global Warming") discussion has been going on steadily since the 1980's. That's 30 years worth of focused research. Go to your local library and check it all the info... lots of peer-reviewed stuff to read on the subject. Not sure if they have any picture-books, though. |
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Even if you think it is all complete bullshit then how anyone can think that humans can continue to destroy this planet faster than ever before and it not have dire consequences is beyond me. |
I'm all for solar power and anything else...But how do you know the model they are using NOW isn't "flawed". They were pretty damn sure about the Ice Age in the 1970's too.
Let me tell y'all a quick story about how concerned the world is... I had a solar energy company out to my home. I have an acre of land right beside my house that is empty. I just fenced it in and let my dogs run it. So I had seen that episode of Extreme Home Makeover where they installed one of those new solar power setups that follows the sun. It's completely capable of powering everyones' homes He came out measured everything...told me I live in a region that would work just fine and with my big empty field I could power my whole house AND sell power back to the power company. The price? FIFTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS. Folks, if the govts. around the world were serious about this...then why is it so expensive that it is completely out of reach for the average person? I asked the guy the same question. He told me that the oil companies own the patents. But still...We hear politicians talk all this bullshit about this is the "gravest danger facing civilization" Do you think they really believe that? And if they do, and they know there is a solution already available...then why don't they do something about that? Why isn't every home and business in the U.S. solar powered right now? I'll tell you why....because it's all bullshit and about the money baby! And I don't have a problem with that at all...I just am shocked that people buy into the "global catastrophe" theories so easily. Trust me...we're all being manipulated for money. That's the way the world works. Back when we went into WWII the entire country was mobilized by the federal govt. Cars were NOT made and Detroit manufactured jeeps and tanks for the military instead. Rubber wasn't even allowed to be used for civilian purposes. And that was just to fight a war. So no matter what kind of horseshit they try to feed us...just remember this: WWII was more of a priority than this "global catastrophe" Otherwise they would mandate the solar power. Speaking of solar power...I read a report that said a grid of solar panels 100 square miles in the desert of New Mexico would generate enough electricity to power every home and business in the U.S. That way nobody would even have to buy individual solar units. But yet....nothing is done. But the icecaps are melting and it's the end of the world? I don't think so. |
so funny ... to see such an important issue divided by US politics ....
I am a repukeblican, so I say global warming is a myth ... I am a democrack, so I believe blindly in global warming .... You guys are really pathetic :2 cents: |
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Not many people are saying it's right around the corner. some are - but not many. Whatever their beliefs, people like drama, it seems... take a look at this thread, for example. The current theory is a model built steadily over the last 25 years, and involves the concept of "geological time." If the existence of the universe could be expressed in the life of a 35-year-old man... the Big Bang happened when he was born, the solar system formed when he was in his teens... the earth formed (start of geological time) when he was at about drinking age... and the earliest humans started walking the earth a month ago... and Jesus Christ was born (?) late yesterday. Wrap your head around that one for a bit, and I'll try to remember to this this thread up later tonight before I hit the sack. |
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And I don't understand where you get "blindly" from... explain. really gotta run now. |
Thanks for being a jerk to me D. I'll remember that one. By the way...That isn't the cover I was thinking of. There was a story that was predicting an oncoming ICE AGE in either TIME or NEWSWEEK. I was only 17 years old back then and can't remember which. But scientists WERE convinced through years of study that we were heading into an ice age. I don't have time to hunt everything down but here is one article in TIME from the 1970's:
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...944914,00.html Here is one of their end of the world quotes: "Whatever the cause of the cooling trend, its effects could be extremely serious, if not catastrophic. Scientists figure that only a 1% decrease in the amount of sunlight hitting the earth's surface could tip the climatic balance, and cool the planet enough to send it sliding down the road to another ice age within only a few hundred years. The earth's current climate is something of an anomaly; in the past 700,000 years, there have been at least seven major episodes of glaciers spreading over much of the planet. Temperatures have been as high as they are now only about 5% of the time. But there is a peril more immediate than the prospect of another ice age. Even if temperature and rainfall patterns change only slightly in the near future in one or more of the three major grain-exporting countries—the U.S., Canada and Australia —global food stores would be sharply reduced. University of Toronto Climatologist Kenneth Hare, a former president of the Royal Meteorological Society, believes that the continuing drought and the recent failure of the Russian harvest gave the world a grim premonition of what might happen. Warns Hare: "I don't believe that the world's present population is sustainable if there are more than three years like 1972 in a row." " I have no idea why you went on the attack with your picture book comment to me. I was just discussing the subject and then you went all nasty on my ass. Not cool. I was interested in the topic. Not having you insult me. |
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someones been reading drudge
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Shut up Bush cocksucker. You probaly believe in creationism too. |
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You would think if this problem which is described over and over as the biggest global catastrophe in history that is going to wipe us all off the face of the earth were real....well, why don't all these governments around the world take action? Nothing stopping anybody from implementing that technology right now. It works, it will power your home, it won't burn a bit of fuel. But yet for some reason...they don't lift a finger. My only conclusion is that they are deceiving us again in pursuit of money and power. Otherwise they would take action. Fuck, they take very real action against seemingly "smaller" problems than "global catastrophe". But they do nothing about this? I'm just saying that I don't trust govt. and I don't trust scientists who...when it comes down to it are just people trying to make money. I'm not a scientist and I have no "proof" of anything one way or another. But don't you think that the leaders around the world (not just the U.S.) DO have any and all "proof" that they need? Hell we invaded Iraq without any real proof and we've spent more money than it would cost to outfit every home and business with solar power. Yet we don't. Makes me wonder how real this "catastrophe" really is. Cause it don't matter if you're Republican or Democrat or the owner of an oil company. If the world is really coming to an end as we know it...and you have proof of it, then you would act. No money or politics has any value if we're all dead. My only conclusion is that the people in power know it's not true. |
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On to your points: I think that there's certainly a long way to go in bridging the cooperation between politicians and the scientific community. Our current executive is arguably one of the most anti-scientific in history, and it seems to me that our representatives worry more about appearances or getting elected to the next term or landing a cushy consulting job after their time in office than actually doing right. Then there's the actual science - which isn't perfect, but even so, the peer-reviewed publication process is probably one of the best feet forward that we have going on... and nearly everything that's coming from them in the last 50 years says what we're tossing into the atmosphere on a regular basis is screwing things up - as you appear to agree with. I think it's cool that you were looking to convert to solar power.... if I owned my home, I'd probably be looking to do the same. I've read the article you listed, and a bit more on the subject over the last hour, and it appears that the idea arose from a greater understanding of global climate systems in the 70's paired with a decrease in temperature from the 40's to 70's. It was a new science working with recent data. The idea of "global cooling" was hyped by the media though it never gained any real scientific support. In example, to quote Dr. B.J. Mason of the Royal Meteorological Society as written in the QJRMS, 1976, p 473 (Symons Memorial Lecture): Quote:
And, for the record, I don't think any of this mess means 'the end of the world'... just maybe the end of anywhere from thousands to millions of currently extant species... and I, personally, don't even think it'll mean the end of humankind (we're too adaptable) - but even if it does, the 'world' will certainly be here long after we're gone. Quote:
And who says "ignorance" on any particular subject has anything to do with age? I'm 34, and ignorant of many things.... and I think it quite likely I'll leave this world remaining ignorant about things like interior decoration.... I'm just hoping you'll eventually smarten up about this particular topic... issues of morality and honesty aside, you seem a bright guy - when you choose to be. I do understand what you're saying about the sensationalization, though... but, I think that's, sadly, just how our modern media works: 'The scientific community is saying that the world is due for massive changes over the next 200 years - how can we sell that?!' The fact is, it's quite possible we won't see _massive_ changes in our lifetimes (give or take the polar bears going extinct, etc) - but the real message is that our children's children probably will (give or take 500 years), which is in the blink of an eye in that "geological time" I was referring to earlier. |
When is the next Extinction Level meteor going to hit the planet? WE NEED A NEW CRISIS DAMMIT!
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Lets put it this way, Im not too worried about "global climate change" lol |
Plenty of links here on the new global cooling:
http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.c...e-9e32747616f9 |
"Peer reviewed" -- ahh, brings me back to university. Good times.
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if the world continues cooling will Canadians invade America
and will Mexicans re invade Mexico ? |
shit who even knows
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