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Porn Farmer 02-15-2008 04:34 PM

How do you "defeat" terrorism?
 
I was on a ultra conservative forum I lurk at and was reading some of the posts by members rationalising why they are going to vote for John McCain, even though they hate him. One of them said, "He will pursue the War on Terror to a victory over Islamofascist terrorism."

I'm just wondering... how do you "defeat" terrorism... and if he does becomes POTUS what could McCain do in his term that Bush hasn't already done that would bring about a "Victory"?

Sounds like more trillions of dollars down the shitter and creating a new generation of terrorists to me.

Cherry7 02-15-2008 04:42 PM

Switch from military spending to aid. Give aid for free secular education for the whole of Muslim world, promote woman's rights, stop supporting dictatorships, leave Iraq, promote cultural exchange, export US culture, import foreign culture,
Closed down Murdoch's newspapers and Fox.

who 02-15-2008 04:44 PM

Terror is an emotion. You can't 'beat' it. The whole thing is fucking ridiculous.

pornguy 02-15-2008 04:49 PM

Do unto others as they do unto you.

xmas13 02-15-2008 04:52 PM

It's just marketing, their way to raise more funds for the Military.

McCain is basically an unofficial fundraiser for the Pentagon.

buzzy 02-15-2008 04:54 PM

You defeat by terrorism by defeating the cause of terrorism. America and Israel are the causes of terrrorism so they can either get heir fucking act together or face the consequences as they are doing right now in iraq. Don't get me wrong i support the troops but they should not be sent to foreign countries like it's a video game.

Damian_Maxcash 02-15-2008 04:59 PM

Whatever we do there will always be someone fighting for the opposite...

For example - If gays went on a bombing spree and got everything they wanted there would be 100 religious groups planting bombs because they dont want it.

The only way it is possible is to take the weapons away from them, but that would put us back in the dark ages.

We cant win. We can only 'reduce the risk'.

xmas13 02-15-2008 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buzzy (Post 13788553)
Don't get me wrong i support the troops but they should not be sent to foreign countries like it's a video game.

Yes, we know video gaming is your field of expertise. :thumbsup

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Dagwolf 02-15-2008 05:04 PM

To defeat them you would have to stop giving them news coverage.

buzzy 02-15-2008 05:04 PM

That isn't me buddy. Nice try though, fucking freak.

StarkReality 02-15-2008 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherry7 (Post 13788470)
Switch from military spending to aid. Give aid for free secular education for the whole of Muslim world, promote woman's rights, stop supporting dictatorships, leave Iraq, promote cultural exchange, export US culture, import foreign culture,
Closed down Murdoch's newspapers and Fox.

That's a truth many people don't want to hear. Fundamentalism needs poverty to exist, so the best weapon against terrorism, long term, is education and economic growth.

DaddyHalbucks 02-15-2008 05:18 PM

The Islamofascists want to forcefully convert the world to their religion. If you don't believe me, read their own writings and listen to their own tapes.

The only known antidotes are democracy and a strong defense policy, exactly what GWB and the Republicans have been trying to do. By my estimate they are on track, and their solutions are working. It will take a long time for it to work, decades. It is amazing how short sighted our society is today.

It took 50 years to defeat the Nazi (and then Soviet) fascists in Eastern Europe. The global jihad is even more dangerous because of its worldwide base, funding via narcotics/ oil /and "charity" groups, and because of advances in WMD technology. If you don't believe me, wait for the next attack.

The smart people woke up on 9/11.

It is a full on scandal what the Democrats did to undermine our troops and our country for their political purposes. The founding fathers would not hesitate to call it treason.

theking 02-15-2008 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Porn Farmer (Post 13788431)
I was on a ultra conservative forum I lurk at and was reading some of the posts by members rationalising why they are going to vote for John McCain, even though they hate him. One of them said, "He will pursue the War on Terror to a victory over Islamofascist terrorism."

I'm just wondering... how do you "defeat" terrorism... and if he does becomes POTUS what could McCain do in his term that Bush hasn't already done that would bring about a "Victory"?

Sounds like more trillions of dollars down the shitter and creating a new generation of terrorists to me.

Easy answer...you change the mindset. There are multiple ways to accomplish this...and one of them is overwhelming crushing force...such as was used against the Japanese. Their culture/religion was as different to ours as the muslim culture/religion is to ours. No quarter given...in the form of unconditional surrender...overwhelming crushing force...changed their mindset and they ultimately meekly surrendered. Force does work.

One country at a time...and time itself...multiple generations of time. Iraq was mishandled due to Rumsfeld primarily...but also due to others. If the Powell doctrine of engaging our troops would have been used many of the problems that took place in the early stages of the conflict in Iraq would not have happened or at the least would have been greatly diminished and Iraq would in all probability be reasonably stable at this point...but from the beginning the Admin knew or should have known that we would have a military presence in Iraq for generations to come just as we still have a military presence in Germany and Japan and many other countries around the world.

GatorB 02-15-2008 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Porn Farmer (Post 13788431)
How do you "defeat" terrorism?


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GatorB 02-15-2008 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 13788693)
The Islamofascists want to forcefully convert the world to their religion. If you don't believe me, read their own writings and listen to their own tapes.

The only known antidotes are democracy and a strong defense policy, exactly what GWB and the Republicans have been trying to do. By my estimate they are on track, and their solutions are working. It will take a long time for it to work, decades. It is amazing how short sighted our society is today.

It took 50 years to defeat the Nazi (and then Soviet) fascists in Eastern Europe. The global jihad is even more dangerous because of its worldwide base, funding via narcotics/ oil /and "charity" groups, and because of advances in WMD technology. If you don't believe me, wait for the next attack.

The smart people woke up on 9/11.

It is a full on scandal what the Democrats did to undermine our troops and our country for their political purposes. The founding fathers would not hesitate to call it treason.


Anyone that says anything Bush does is working is a TARD. OFFICALLY on IGNORE. Good grief I have better things to do than to read the writings of the mentally handicapped.

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J. Falcon 02-15-2008 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherry7 (Post 13788470)
Switch from military spending to aid. Give aid for free secular education for the whole of Muslim world, promote woman's rights, stop supporting dictatorships, leave Iraq, promote cultural exchange, export US culture, import foreign culture,
Closed down Murdoch's newspapers and Fox.

This must be the smartest non-adult related post I've ever read on gfy.

D Ghost 02-15-2008 05:41 PM

You don't, there is no war on terrorism

Damian_Maxcash 02-15-2008 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theking (Post 13788711)
Easy answer...you change the mindset. There are multiple ways to accomplish this...and one of them is overwhelming crushing force...such as was used against the Japanese. Their culture/religion was as different to ours as the muslim culture/religion is to ours. No quarter given...in the form of unconditional surrender...overwhelming crushing force...changed their mindset and they ultimately meekly surrendered. Force does work.

One country at a time...and time itself...multiple generations of time. Iraq was mishandled due to Rumsfeld primarily...but also due to others. If the Powell doctrine of engaging our troops would have been used many of the problems that took place in the early stages of the conflict in Iraq would not have happened or at the least would have been greatly diminished and Iraq would in all probability be reasonably stable at this point...but from the beginning the Admin knew or should have known that we would have a military presence in Iraq for generations to come just as we still have a military presence in Germany and Japan and many other countries around the world.

The Islamic Facists will just be replaced by somebody else - its human nature.

We can not agree on everything - communism yesterday and religion today - who knows what is next.

The next lot may be even closer to home - what then?

Doctor Dre 02-15-2008 05:50 PM

You stop giving them so much attention.

theking 02-15-2008 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damian_Maxcash (Post 13788870)
The Islamic Facists will just be replaced by somebody else - its human nature.

We can not agree on everything - communism yesterday and religion today - who knows what is next.

The next lot may be even closer to home - what then?

If you are saying that there will always be conflict...I agree. The human animal has only been out of the caves for 30,000 or so years...and will in all probability become extinct before they maturate...to being docile animals. In the meantime one fights battles as they are presented.

GregE 02-15-2008 06:32 PM

Whatever you do you never, that's never ever, give in to a terrorists demands. That's number one.

You also, to the best of your ability, ensure that nothing they, or their sympathizers, might see as a "good thing" results (directly) from their actions.

Most importantly, you never give them any reason to think that they’ve intimidated you. Terrorists by definition feed on fear.

Lastly, using covert means, you hunt down and take down their top leaders.

That’s pretty much all you can do.

Starting dumb ass wars like the one in Iraq is most definitely not the answer.

Damian_Maxcash 02-15-2008 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theking (Post 13788903)
If you are saying that there will always be conflict...I agree. The human animal has only been out of the caves for 30,000 or so years...and will in all probability become extinct before they maturate...to being docile animals. In the meantime one fights battles as they are presented.

Did TheKing and me just agree on wording?

Copy and paste and we may have a winner!!

needlive 02-15-2008 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregE (Post 13789045)
Lastly, using covert means, you hunt down and take down their top leaders.

Their will be another leader eventually. If fanatics believe in someone, something so much that they die for the case, they will have other people among them to control the whole group.

theking 02-15-2008 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damian_Maxcash (Post 13789078)
Did TheKing and me just agree on wording?

Copy and paste and we may have a winner!!

Hmmmmmm.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 02-15-2008 10:49 PM

It really is to bad the only guys that seem to understand just how fucked the Islamic Facists agenda's are Republicans.

Democrats think the whole lets talk policy and negotiations, diplomacy etc will work on them fucked people. I am not liking Republicans to much but I am hesitant to put some Pacifist Democrat in the White House that thinks Terrorists and terrorist supporting countries can be negotiated with.
Thats going to be a big big mother fucking mistake resulting in more 9/11's for not only America but other nations as well.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 02-15-2008 10:58 PM

The Islamics only understand a couple things and to defeat them there is only one way.

Serious serious fucking destruction, it is what they want. they need to die and die fucking so hard they forget what the teaching of there fucked religeon has told them in new generations.
Them fucks do not want peace, they do not even know the meaning.

They are teaching kids to be suicide bombers, literally they got children shows in Islamic countries glorifying suicide bombers, and teaching kids to hate at very early ages.

The Islamics need to be exterminated in thier entirety and whole.

J. Falcon 02-15-2008 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ (Post 13789737)
Thats going to be a big big mother fucking mistake resulting in more 9/11's for not only America but other nations as well.

Whats going to result in more 9/11's is the fucked up shit you are currently doing.

tony286 02-15-2008 11:08 PM

employment people are not as open to blow themselves up when they have shit.

Redrob 02-15-2008 11:23 PM

The real problems are lack of opportunity and fundamentalism.

When you live in shit, your kids are going to live in shit, and are told it is the fault of the "Great Satan", your world view will be more than a little biased.

Just my opinion.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 02-16-2008 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redrob (Post 13789853)
The real problems are lack of opportunity and fundamentalism.

When you live in shit, your kids are going to live in shit, and are told it is the fault of the "Great Satan", your world view will be more than a little biased.

Just my opinion.

But who gives a shit what "Thier view" is at this point?
Fact is Islamic Fundamentalists pick and choose any reason to blow something up or kill someone and usually innocent someones...

And the reason can be for what ever suits them to justify it no matter how trivial. SO whether they are biased about "The Great Satan" or a picture of there fucked up god, a reason will be found to preach hate and bring on the destruction of peoples lives.

I tell you one thing this American is quite tired of hearing "It is All America's Fault Bullshit"...

This shit is not America's fault...
Remember them fuckers declared war against America first.
They fired the first round.

It is our job to Sweep and clear every single one of the fuck heads at this point.

tony286 02-16-2008 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ (Post 13790080)
But who gives a shit what "Thier view" is at this point?
Fact is Islamic Fundamentalists pick and choose any reason to blow something up or kill someone and usually innocent someones...

And the reason can be for what ever suits them to justify it no matter how trivial. SO whether they are biased about "The Great Satan" or a picture of there fucked up god, a reason will be found to preach hate and bring on the destruction of peoples lives.

I tell you one thing this American is quite tired of hearing "It is All America's Fault Bullshit"...

This shit is not America's fault...
Remember them fuckers declared war against America first.
They fired the first round.

It is our job to Sweep and clear every single one of the fuck heads at this point.

You know I respect you but learn your history before making these statements.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 02-16-2008 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 13790092)
You know I respect you but learn your history before making these statements.

OH what??? Yeah America taught them how to fight off the Russian's, we funded them to fight...

This makes America a bunch of Ass holes? We gave them money! We Taught them to fight, we buy thier fucking oil and what? What? We are the fucking bad guys?

Jeesus...

Sooo tired of the whole history thing...
The history America has had with these fuck's since the beginning has basically put them in some pretty good positions only for them to squander it and blame everyone around them.

Wanna talk about Isreali support? Jesus christ Isreal is no fucking bigger than San Francisco and them fucks got thousands and thousands of fucking miles to live. One little tiny small fucking infantisimal peice of land in the great scheme of things...
The fuckers agreed about an Isreali state after WWII.
THEY AGREED!

What did they do? They started attacking Isreal since then. Isreal takes Gaza, Palstine in retaliation. Fuck Gaza fuck Palestine them spots are nothing never have been never will be anything.

Yet America is the bad guy saving the Jews...

This shit makes me sick...
Many of you are so fucking washed thinking some sort of peace can be reached with Islamic fruit cakes and sorry.. It won't happen ya know why?

Thier religeon does not allow it!
SO untl that fucking book is changed up some these people can not be negotiated with.
They do not negotiate or have you people not figured that out yet?

Paul Markham 02-16-2008 02:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buzzy (Post 13788553)
You defeat by terrorism by defeating the cause of terrorism. America and Israel are the causes of terrrorism so they can either get heir fucking act together or face the consequences as they are doing right now in iraq. Don't get me wrong i support the troops but they should not be sent to foreign countries like it's a video game.

Will a boy become a terrorist if you killed his father, stole his land and were trying to keep him in poverty?

Will a boy become a terrorist if you educate him, treat him in hospital and allow him to grow olives where his family have grown olives for generations?

Hate breeds terrorists. The US were once terrorists, they won that one so became freedom fighters fighting for Independence. Look back at why they wanted to be free and see why they became terrorists.

Fap 02-16-2008 02:33 AM

Oooh which forum? please post links

Paul Markham 02-16-2008 02:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theking (Post 13788711)
Easy answer...you change the mindset. There are multiple ways to accomplish this...and one of them is overwhelming crushing force...such as was used against the Japanese. Their culture/religion was as different to ours as the muslim culture/religion is to ours. No quarter given...in the form of unconditional surrender...overwhelming crushing force...changed their mindset and they ultimately meekly surrendered. Force does work.

One country at a time...and time itself...multiple generations of time. Iraq was mishandled due to Rumsfeld primarily...but also due to others. If the Powell doctrine of engaging our troops would have been used many of the problems that took place in the early stages of the conflict in Iraq would not have happened or at the least would have been greatly diminished and Iraq would in all probability be reasonably stable at this point...but from the beginning the Admin knew or should have known that we would have a military presence in Iraq for generations to come just as we still have a military presence in Germany and Japan and many other countries around the world.

You have to be drunk, drugged or both to think that will work. Force does not work, never has and never will. It breeds hatred. Unless you're talking about doing to the Muslims what the Americans did to the American Indians.

Which would make you even more stupid than I think you are. Small difference in numbers and the Muslims will not be taking blankets infected with typhoid as easily as the Indians did.

Paul Markham 02-16-2008 02:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ (Post 13790140)
OH what??? Yeah America taught them how to fight off the Russian's, we funded them to fight...

This makes America a bunch of Ass holes? We gave them money! We Taught them to fight, we buy thier fucking oil and what? What? We are the fucking bad guys?

I'm afraid you are, otherwise they would not be blowing you up.

You spent half a billion dollars arming the Afghan freedom fighters. Then you thought it was all over and you let the crazies take over. For the cost of a few schools, hospitals, tractors you could of had a friend. Instead you let the Taliban and Bin Laden take over and now spend billions when a few million would of saved the day.

theking 02-16-2008 03:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 13790622)
You have to be drunk, drugged or both to think that will work. Force does not work, never has and never will. It breeds hatred. Unless you're talking about doing to the Muslims what the Americans did to the American Indians.

Which would make you even more stupid than I think you are. Small difference in numbers and the Muslims will not be taking blankets infected with typhoid as easily as the Indians did.

Clueless...force worked quite well with the Germans and the Japanese...now didn't it...and I am not aware of any German or Japanese terrorists attacking the USA.

L-Pink 02-16-2008 04:01 AM

Think Muslims would fall for the old small-pox-blanket trick?

zetah 02-16-2008 06:31 AM

Politicians are all the same in every country, they just try to earn money as quick as they can.
No matter the population then...

Violetta 02-16-2008 06:37 AM

there are very few terrorists here in norway..

raven1083 02-16-2008 07:32 AM

Stop giving them coverage news so that you will be able to defeat them.

jalami 02-16-2008 07:41 AM

The "War On Terror" will be just as successful as other Wars that the U.S. has waged on ideologies as if they were nation-states. Yeah, we're doing great on the War On Poverty and especially the War On Drugs.

Paul Markham 02-16-2008 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theking (Post 13790823)
Clueless...force worked quite well with the Germans and the Japanese...now didn't it...and I am not aware of any German or Japanese terrorists attacking the USA.

You see how stupid you are. You prove it over and over again. Keep going.

Now the others here can look at the money that was poured into Germany and Japan after WW2 by the US to rebuild their country, economy and win the people over. If the US had spent 1% of the money it pours into "defending itself" on building schools, hospitals, roads, water plants and other basics in life the US economy would be be better off by the other 99%.

But as there is more money for the politicians in arms, fools like you who get off on the size of your gun and the need to keep you in fear of the big bad bogey man who's coming to get you. Nothing will change.

J. Falcon 02-16-2008 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 13791182)
You see how stupid you are. You prove it over and over again. Keep going.

Now the others here can look at the money that was poured into Germany and Japan after WW2 by the US to rebuild their country, economy and win the people over. If the US had spent 1% of the money it pours into "defending itself" on building schools, hospitals, roads, water plants and other basics in life the US economy would be be better off by the other 99%.

But as there is more money for the politicians in arms, fools like you who get off on the size of your gun and the need to keep you in fear of the big bad bogey man who's coming to get you. Nothing will change.

Nothing will change indeed. Things will only get worse, more and more terrorist and terrorist groups will form, and Americans will continue living in fear.

Cherry7 02-19-2008 12:51 PM

When you all talk about 9/11 is this the 9/11/1973 ?

When the Chilean military, backed by the CIA, overthrew the democratic Chilean Government and introduced a state of terror?

aico 02-19-2008 12:57 PM

I stopped watching TV and listening to Bush talk, and *poof* terrorism was gone from my life.

goldmine 02-19-2008 01:08 PM

porn is the answer.
 

Terrorist: a very angry person who hasn't watched porn in his lifetime.

Solution: Spread the porn and see the terrorism stats plummet to the ground. :thumbsup

Vick! 02-19-2008 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherry7 (Post 13788470)
Switch from military spending to aid. Give aid for free secular education for the whole of Muslim world, promote woman's rights, stop supporting dictatorships, leave Iraq, promote cultural exchange, export US culture, import foreign culture,
Closed down Murdoch's newspapers and Fox.

:2 cents:

The Sultan Of Smut 02-19-2008 02:04 PM

What the hell is an Islamofascist? Seems just like a new buzz word that some will use to categorize/demonize an identifiable group so I looked it up:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamofascism

Fundamental Islamists and European/South American/South East Asian fascists seem to have only cursory similarities so yup, it's a new buzz word used to provide people a focus for their fear and hatred.


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