Zorgman & Tevs: I have serious question about your software
 

You have made a statement saying that you will terminate anyone's license that is using your software for illegal tube action...

I need to know the answer to a question, since i have been looking at your HTML and can tell you are spying on everyone who has installed this software, by you purposely putting html code in there with blind image calls so you can track where its being run and all that....

While I feel this is a childesh mve on your end, it really is none of my business, but what I do need to know, that is my business, is this software dependent on your end? Is this software going to malfunction if you/your server dissappears?

How could you terminate my license if this was not the case? Sorry, but I can not have one of my investments fail or be hindered by such software in control by a third party licensing system. Therefore if it is controlled I must dump it immediately... let me know ASAP.

I will also be installing a firewall as your software in my mind is construed as spyware, for all i know you could be reading in all the imports im doing and everything.. I dont think you are like that, but i really dont want you to know what my personal itnernal business ip's that are using this software either...
thats my security i need to protect. So basically anything to DNS bigdotmedia will be redirected to 127.0.0.1 and your known ip's, if this is a problem then again sorry but I must go in a new direction with different software will be firewalled.

Popcorn anyone?

think ill take a seat here as ive been putting some research into this script :2 cents:

I'm not even gonna post in this thread.

very good points raised

:Oh crap
Why didn't you wait and ask him first before posting?
I really can't see him doing such things as this, but then again it is the adult biz! :(
:pimp

don't use it... he created it he can do with it as he may, if you don't like it, don't purchase it :2 cents:

I think it uses Zend - The server being up issue is always a problem.

BUT - Unless you want to pay 1000's for a custom job its the only way Zorg can do business.

If I was in his shoes I would offer an invite only source code version to my most trusted customers at a premium.

well, i got it because the front end was source there, enough to satisfy me, but now I am worried about backend, i was unaware it might be dependent on something other than my domain name and the zend engine itself.. however if it is checking with his end, then i do have a problem... and to the idiots who are saying he can do what he wants, he can, and as I stated, i will have to dump it... Didnt particularly care to see those other snoop things, just makes you curious what else could be there, i will run packet sniffers on it later.

It is Zend encoded, which means you need to have the Optimizer installed in order to run the program. Has nothing to do with being tied to his server or needing his server to be up in order to run it.

hmm interesting topic

Dosnt it check the licence server evey time?

I could be wrong - but I thought that was the point?

some questions should be out in the open so people can make informed decisions.

I suppose it would be possible that's built into the code, but the Zend program just encodes the PHP so that you don't have access to the code. I believe it would all be done via PHP and Zend has nothing to do with the process apart from encoding and protecting said code.

With zend you can generate a license for a copy of a script that is tied to a domain or even a mac address. Uptime on the author's server doesn't matter.

If anyone has a problem with that script, there will be an alternative available very soon for much, much less money and no linkback required. That's what I hear anyway. :winkwink:

Interesting.

and

Interesting.

interesting thread.......although it makes my balls itch......

I can see for the smaller guys who want to start a tube site, but for anyone that has any amount of money or resources why not have your own system built, it can't be that expensive or hard to do ?

I love TEVS

teksonline,

I'm not going to go into blue prints on how TEVS works. That is my business and nothing I wish to share publicly.

However, I like to know who is using my software to ensure that the domain name is licensed.
If our server was switch off then all TEVS sites would run 100% without us. But we're not going anywhere.

If you don't agree with the TEVS license agreement then please do NOT purchase TEVS. There are many other tube scripts out there.

You say spyware? Please provide proof! We have no spyware in TEVS. We do not read any information from your server except the domain it is used on.
We have no interest in your galleries, videos, links, ips or other information.

You can use whatever firewall you want to protect yourself. I know a few webmasters that have done this already and im fine with it.
However, doing so puts your on a higher level of security as I would think you have something to hide by blocking us.

Please contact me if you have any further questions regarding these issues.

it is a common practice with scripts.... I don't see anything wrong with what TEVS is doing. The main thing is that its not tied to his server being up. MOST scripts have a call home device that checks to make sure the license is valid. The only thing to be concerned about is what can happen if your license is cancelled, there are certainly plenty of alternatives... Hell buying TEVS just to have it build you a DB to use with some other tube software its still worth the price paid for it ;)

I develop a tube script and any of you that think that it "can't be that hard" are dead wrong, its a bitch to get everything just right.

Any of you designers skin a tevs site yet?

oh come on basic youtube clone, it can't be that hard. what type of features does the one you create have that made it so complex ?

You get more and more arrogant by the day....

:1orglaugh

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Mechanical Bunny Media has started making skins and code changes for TEVS. You can find his contacts here. http://www.bigdotmedia.com/services.php

Zend encoding doesn't require any checks back home. It is a license file you place on your server that is locked to your domain.

This is true, most scripts that people think are a ton of work are actually quite easy... I threw together most of a tube site in an afternoon.

You know what takes the time in programming a script? A bulletproof yet easy to use user interface for the purposes of selling the script to less-technical users like your average webmaster :winkwink: Adding control panels to do everything imaginable is what takes all the time.

:thumbsup

Not to mention supporting the end-user.

And Video tutorials. It took me so long to take the "sexy" out of my voice in those tutorials. I almost went insane. :1orglaugh

If there is any programmers out there, I can only suggest that you make video tutorials that explaines your software. I know my tutorials answer almost 95% of the webmasters questions. This gives me more time to give it to those that need the support.

Damian_maxcash disagrees and went on a tirade on how I could say something so arrogant and wrong.

I was asking how hard could it be for the basic setup, i dont know but just guessing it isn't that hard. Ofcourse if you add tons of good features then I would imagine it would make it a lot more complex and harder to do.

Both of which, in my opinion, are what stand out about TEVS and Zorgman.

Whooooooo Whooooooooooo

Yes, but that is the reason people buy the script to begin with.

I can write a script for myself in a week but it takes 2 months to make it
a sellable product.

I have to put a function in for every little thing that I would just FTP and do myself because the buyer doesn't know what files are involved in the functions. Also, the buyers don't want to know that stuff, they just want to start making money.

Exactly, but the question was "is it an easy/quick script to make :winkwink:

Neither am I.

I wouldn't say a tube script is something easy/quick to make unless someone
is just patching code from other sources.

Maybe some wiz kid can knock out a decent tube script in two weeks but for most people they better allocate 2 months to making something worth a crap.

I spent 10x more time dumbing down a feature so more people people can use it than it takes to make the feature for me.... recently I spent 5 or 6 hours drinking myself into a stupor trying to come up with some things so simple even someone wasted could figure it out... That is the kind of market research I enjoy doing ;)

It took roughty 6 months to plan and execute TEVS. Im glad i took my time creating it too because webmasters seem to love the script, which is great news. :D

i definetly agree and i wasn't insulting what anyone here has made. My comments where people with resources and money, why wouldnt they want to get something made for them opposed to using a license copy, and that I didnt think it would be that hard to make a basic clone system.

Sure if you setting up tons of features especially for other people to use, or you are decking out your own version for yourself then I wouldnt doubt it taking you months to do and it not being an easy thing.

Yeah, I have to give him credit there. He clearly has more patience with customers than I do/did. LOTS more patience. That's what it takes.

It's like Randall said in Clerks: "This job would be great if it wasn't for the fucking customers."

Thanks for your kind comments guys. I do appreciate it.

Any other questions regarding TEVS?

yes, i just sent you a question thru the members area on what may be going wrong with my mass FHG importing... thanks in advance

Hi Easton. I replied to your email. Lets chat. :D

i have no complaints with the program... easy to implement, and as someone stated, maybe this is geared more for the smaller user... i fall into that category, but it has been successful at creating a professional looking tube site for me that i am very proud of

nothing but love for TEVS !!

Thanks Campimp, did you see the latest addon for the pre-approve system?

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