FACT: Nolan Ryan is the only pitcher to throw 100mph without HGH or other drugs
 

FACT!!!!

He is also the only 46 year old to beat the fuck out of a 26 year old in the middle of a game.

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I remember that. He fucked that dude up lol

Best regular season game ever, lol.

I think Robin Ventura lost a tooth in that fight. What a lame ass.

nolan ryan was the shit :thumbsup

FACT!:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

...Zumaya

Nolan Ryan is the man.

But lots of people pitched > 100mph... and not all with drugs, I wouldn't think.

Mark Wohlers 103.0 mph 1995 Spring Training
Armando Benitez 102.0 mph 2002 Shea Stadium
Randy Johnson 102.0 mph 07-09-2004 SBC Park
Robb Nen 102.0 mph 10-23-1997 Jacobs Field
A.J. Burnett 101.0 mph 05-31-2005 PNC Park
Rob Dibble 101.0 mph 1992 Candlestick Park
Kyle Farnsworth 101.0 mph 05-27-2004 Minute Maid Park
Eric Gagne 101.0 mph 04-16-2004 SBC Park
Jose Mesa 101.0 mph 1993 Cleveland Stadium
Guillermo Mota 101.0 mph 07-24-2002 Qualcomm Stadium
Billy Wagner 101.0 mph 06-11-2003 Yankee Stadium
Nolan Ryan 100.9 mph 08-20-1974 Anaheim Stadium
Josh Beckett 100.0 mph 10-12-2003 Pro Player Park
Daniel Cabrera 100.0 mph 05-09-2005 Camden Yards
Roger Clemens 100.0 mph 10-10-2001 Yankee Stadium
Francisco Cordero 100.0 mph 07-07-2004 Jacobs Field
Jorge Julio 100.0 mph 09-16-2004 Skydome
J.R. Richard 100.0 mph 1976 Candlestick Park
C.C. Sabathia 100.0 mph 2002 Jacobs Field
Ben Sheets 100.0 mph 07-10-2004 Miller Park
Derrick Turnbow 100.0 mph 05-27-2005 Miller Park

Randy Johnson?

edit-didn't see the post above me.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joel_Zumaya

"The official record according to the Guinness Book of World Records is 100.9 mph by Nolan Ryan in 1974. Ryan's pitch was clocked using coherent infrared radar.

The reliability of radar guns used at MLB games more recently has been questioned. USA Today columnist Mike Lopresti reported that FOX was using radar guns which recorded speeds 3 to 4 miles an hour faster than the readings on the McAfee Coliseum radar guns in Game 1 of the 2006 American League Championship Series."

Those people you listed above Ryan came 21 years or more later when everyone cheated and the radar guns are rigged to be impressive. Guinness doesn't lie.

Agreed.

Not to mention alot of minor leaguers have touched 100mph on the radar gun over the years.

spoken like someone that knows nothing about baseball history.

aside from many current and recent pitchers that have broken 100 MPH, bob feller and several other pitchers of that era, were known to have thrown over 100 MPH, but radar gun technology was not what it is today. most say that feller would regularly throw 103 MPH

Joba Chamberlain and I believe Papelbon have also hit the 100 MPH on more than a few occassions

I'm going to go ahead and trust Guinness and Wikipedia more than you last 3 posters.

From same page.

"Despite the accuracy of radar guns being in question, it is likely that Zumaya throws some of the fastest pitches in baseball. By contrast, other pitchers have reached 100 mph on television radar guns, but do not usually reach 103 mph (this group includes Bobby Jenks, Kyle Farnsworth, and Billy Wagner, among others). If the readings are in fact inflated by 3 to 4 miles per hour, then Zumaya would really feature a 100 mph fastball"

"After the 2006 season, The Bill James Handbook published a list of pitchers and the number of their pitches thrown at 100 mph or more. Zumaya led the Major Leagues with 233, while Kyle Farnsworth was second with 26. The National League leader was Billy Wagner, with 5. Zumaya's average fastball was an astonishing 98.6 mph, with 100+ mph fastballs coming every 1 out of 6 pitches."

theres no proof that he or anyone for that matter never juiced.

never caught is the adjective to describe anything i can't see.

i don't trust anything concerning anyone, ever.

From the same page.

"former Tigers pitcher Denny McLain stated that he believed the numbers on stadium and television radar guns were inflated. However, he also claimed that Zumaya had the most consistently fast pitches he had seen in person since Nolan Ryan and former Houston Astro J.R. Richard."

FACT: This thread is OPINION. But thats ok, it stirs the pot.

Tell ya my opinion.. baseball is very unimportant. Certainly not important enough for gavel to gavel coverage on every cable news network in the US. Ridiculous circus event.

Walter Johnson All The Way!

greatest ball player of all time

Well, I loved Nolan Ryan. Spectacular career. I also liked JR Richard.

"Consistently fast". Even if a statement of fact it would not in any way preclude Zumaya from having thrown over 100 mph on occassion. 233 readings over 100 mph. Well, then.

It's not really about baseball, it's about drug use. I think it is important if for no other reason than to TRY and show kids that drugs aren't the way to go. There's enough problems in the world already that we don't need an entire generation of kids growing up with roid rage.

I'm not naive enough to believe it hasn't been going on forever, but with the salaries players are making these days, the incentive to take them is even greater then it once was. With the lack of parental influence and GROWING influence of the media, maybe for once the media can do something worthwhile. :2 cents:

the only fact is that your thread is not a fact,

I just heard this on CNN and WOULD agree it's a waste of time...if they were to hold senate hearings on "Spygate". That should be an NFL matter, not a government matter.

Must be that whole, "Texas T", lore

daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaang

Fact: Most threads beginning with "fact" are anything but. This one is a fine example.

Well.. WE ALL KNOW you are a DRUG ADDICT, COLIN, from adult RAPE link...

That said, your statement doesn't look promising.

He's got a great arm,that's for sure..

nolan ryan was badass but i think he mighta done roids towards the end of his career....if you look at numbers he got better as he passed his prime and shoulda been on a downswing:2 cents:

can't prove a thing