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rowan 02-12-2008 02:00 PM

FTV receive c&d from Mercedes
 
Haven't seen it mentioned here yet, FTV received a C&D from Mercedes so they have to pull every image with the S..L#&&(*R in it (hey, wouldn't want the M/erce&des lawyers to find this thread :winkwink: )

Where will it stop? C&D from Coke? C&D from your TV manufacturer? C&D from the company that made your kitchen sink?

ADL Colin 02-12-2008 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by rowan (Post 13771410)
Haven't seen it mentioned here yet, FTV received a C&D from Mercedes so they have to pull every image with the S..L#&&(*R in it (hey, wouldn't want the M/erce&des lawyers to find this thread :winkwink: )

Where will it stop? C&D from Coke? C&D from your TV manufacturer? C&D from the company that made your kitchen sink?

Nahhh. everything BUT the kitchen sink

aico 02-12-2008 02:03 PM

heh, I made a thread too. Pretty much same questions.... ;)

Deej 02-12-2008 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ADL Colin (Post 13771414)
Nahhh. everything BUT the kitchen sink

dont piss off kohler...

$tandaman 02-12-2008 02:05 PM

that's fucked up :/

Roald 02-12-2008 02:06 PM

heard stories before about BMW doing the same

tigermtb 02-12-2008 02:06 PM

Seriously, what kind of "damage" can be done to Mercedes by having pornstars pose with their cars?

"Damn, that chick is hot... and for some reason, now I want to buy a Mercedes." -- lol..

I wonder how many pornstars and industry people own Mercedes compared to other brands.

aico 02-12-2008 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by tigermtb (Post 13771429)
Seriously, what kind of "damage" can be done to Mercedes by having pornstars pose with their cars?

"Damn, that chick is hot... and for some reason, now I want to buy a Mercedes." -- lol..

I wonder how many pornstars and industry people own Mercedes compared to other brands.

People who own & buy stock in the company probably don't like the idea of it.

rowan 02-12-2008 02:10 PM

I wonder if that guy in a red teddy with his dick stuck up a Range Rover received a C&D.

Jet - BANNED FOR LIFE 02-12-2008 02:10 PM

pull the images or what?

they own the car, they can do whatever they want with it

shermo 02-12-2008 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by pornopete (Post 13771438)
Can they do that? They bought the car.

But unfortunately not the rights to use it in commercial photography. :(

Fap 02-12-2008 02:11 PM

Thats why you get the dolorean

tony286 02-12-2008 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by sherm (Post 13771446)
But unfortunately not the rights to use it in commercial photography. :(

Yep alot people dont realize that.

Max Cheese 02-12-2008 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by pornopete (Post 13771463)
What I cant take pictures of my car?

if you are going to sell those pics, no...unless you get permission

pr0 02-12-2008 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by sherm (Post 13771446)
But unfortunately not the rights to use it in commercial photography. :(

what if the membership was sold under the premise of obtaining access to a blog inside the members area....& the photo's were "just there" :winkwink:

pr0 02-12-2008 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Max Cheese (Post 13771474)
if you are going to sell those pics, no...unless you get permission

then i wonder why paparazzi photo's don't blur out brand names...i mean someone sold the shot of paris getting out of a 500k mercedes with her twat flapping around

rowan 02-12-2008 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by sherm (Post 13771446)
But unfortunately not the rights to use it in commercial photography. :(

If that's the case then we should all be shooting in a bare studio, since every manufacturer with a unique product could sue us.

Make sure the backdrop has no texture, the manufacturer might recognise it. :winkwink:

tony286 02-12-2008 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by rowan (Post 13771499)
If that's the case then we should all be shooting in a bare studio, since every manufacturer with a unique product could sue us.

Make sure the backdrop has no texture, the manufacturer might recognise it. :winkwink:

it is the case in the usa.

GTS Mark 02-12-2008 02:26 PM

Man that sucks, they must have a ton of pics with their chicks beside their fine rides.

»Rob Content« 02-12-2008 02:27 PM

This is quite common on the DVD video side of adult. People get c/d often. It's why when you watch a video you'll never see any type of logo in it.

SimonScans 02-12-2008 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by rowan (Post 13771499)
If that's the case then we should all be shooting in a bare studio, since every manufacturer with a unique product could sue us.

Make sure the backdrop has no texture, the manufacturer might recognise it. :winkwink:

And no shooting models with Playboy logo tattoos. Imagine finding out someone else owns the copyright to your ass?

tony286 02-12-2008 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DrinkingHARDEST (Post 13771524)
Man that sucks, they must have a ton of pics with their chicks beside their fine rides.

there is no excuse making that much money not having lawyer on staff or pretty close to on staff.

Tom_PM 02-12-2008 02:28 PM

Yes. Associating sex and cars is lower than low. When I go to a car show, I've never seen sexy women there at all.

"When you turn on your car, does it do the same for you?"

Pure filth. Shame shame shame.

end orgasm. I mean sarcasm.

Max Cheese 02-12-2008 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowan (Post 13771499)
If that's the case then we should all be shooting in a bare studio, since every manufacturer with a unique product could sue us.

Make sure the backdrop has no texture, the manufacturer might recognise it. :winkwink:

every major studio I have worked for took extra special precautions to blank out any labels before the camera was ever turned on

even when I was at a Hustler shoot and they wanted porn magazines on the coffee table, they made sure the names of the porn magazines could not be seen

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 02-12-2008 02:30 PM

If I recall right the only thing that would have to be removed is the Mercedes Logo, not the car, however even that may be in question really.

FTV could get an attorney and fight it.
Besides that would be excellent publicity.

tony286 02-12-2008 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 13771543)
Yes. Associating sex and cars is lower than low. When I go to a car show, I've never seen sexy women there at all.

"When you turn on your car, does it do the same for you?"

Pure filth. Shame shame shame.

end orgasm. I mean sarcasm.

but thats their right and if you want to use their product in a commercial venture you need their permission.

lagwagon 02-12-2008 02:36 PM

Yes we have removed all images from all our hosted promo. We are asking affiliates to please do the same. =/ Its a shame to have to pull the pics of hot girls with such beautiful cars.

kmanrox 02-12-2008 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by banthis (Post 13771448)
Thats why you get the dolorean


hahaahahaaaa

TheSwed 02-12-2008 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by rowan (Post 13771442)
I wonder if that guy in a red teddy with his dick stuck up a Range Rover received a C&D.

This one? :1orglaugh
http://free6site.com/banner/tailpipe.jpg

Max Cheese 02-12-2008 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ (Post 13771553)
If I recall right the only thing that would have to be removed is the Mercedes Logo, not the car, however even that may be in question really..

very true, just removing the logo and any "brand" mention would probably be fine

L-Pink 02-12-2008 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by rowan (Post 13771442)
I wonder if that guy in a red teddy with his dick stuck up a Range Rover received a C&D.

I think of that image whenever I see a friends Rover :1orglaugh

L-Pink 02-12-2008 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SimonScans (Post 13771537)
And no shooting models with Playboy logo tattoos. Imagine finding out someone else owns the copyright to your ass?

I shot a girl with a Playboy logo tattoo on her ass, she has since become a Hustler cover girl and is big on their web advertizing ...... lazered off I guess :1orglaugh

Mutt 02-12-2008 02:47 PM

i have always thought this was the stupidest fucking law ever - you buy a product it's yours to do what you want with it - but that's not how it works - the clothes manufacturers could do the same thing.

funny thing is that until the movie E.T. all motion pictures and tv shows would have to tape up the logo on any product or make some dumb fake like SuperCola rather than CocaCola - THEN came E.T. and the use of Reece's Pieces - sales of that candy exploded and now manufacturers of everything from candy to Mercedes PAY to get their products into a movie. Product placement.

unfortunately porn still has a stigma.

I would think that Rob's lawyer would have come up with the obscure the Mercedes logo fix if that would do the trick. Maybe because automobiles have body shapes that are instantly recognizable versus something like a soft drink can where if you cover up the Coke logo it could be any one of a hundred different brands.

sorry to hear about this Chris - it sucks.

aico 02-12-2008 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by pr0 (Post 13771494)
then i wonder why paparazzi photo's don't blur out brand names...i mean someone sold the shot of paris getting out of a 500k mercedes with her twat flapping around

Because Mercedes doesn't mind their car being associated with what rich people drive. Which is why most celebs get shit for free from the companies, so that they will be seen driving or wearing the products. Many Celebs are even paid to order certain brands of liquor in clubs just so people will over hear what they are ordering and order it also to be like them.

Jimmy Rock 02-12-2008 02:52 PM

Tell Mercedes to fuck themselves...if you don;t want your brand out there make your shit generic

Evil E 02-12-2008 02:54 PM

There are lot's of other brands than Mercedes.

cherrylula 02-12-2008 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by pr0 (Post 13771494)
then i wonder why paparazzi photo's don't blur out brand names...i mean someone sold the shot of paris getting out of a 500k mercedes with her twat flapping around

But who would they sue? Paris? Different scenario altogether.

let's use our brains and not be silly..... FTV makes $$$... you think they'd sue some dumb amateur girl site with a pic of her cheap bmw that only has 25 members? :winkwink:

It will be interesting to see how it plays out though... go FTV. :upsidedow

....and if the cars are in his COMPANY name.... ouch.

aico 02-12-2008 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Max Cheese (Post 13771549)
every major studio I have worked for took extra special precautions to blank out any labels before the camera was ever turned on

even when I was at a Hustler shoot and they wanted porn magazines on the coffee table, they made sure the names of the porn magazines could not be seen

yep, I have been on shoots where we had to put black tape on neon beer signs to make it say something other than "Budweiser" for example.

Twig 02-12-2008 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 13771623)
i have always thought this was the stupidest fucking law ever - you buy a product it's yours to do what you want with it - but that's not how it works - the clothes manufacturers could do the same thing.

funny thing is that until the movie E.T. all motion pictures and tv shows would have to tape up the logo on any product or make some dumb fake like SuperCola rather than CocaCola - THEN came E.T. and the use of Reece's Pieces - sales of that candy exploded and now manufacturers of everything from candy to Mercedes PAY to get their products into a movie. Product placement.

unfortunately porn still has a stigma.

I would think that Rob's lawyer would have come up with the obscure the Mercedes logo fix if that would do the trick. Maybe because automobiles have body shapes that are instantly recognizable versus something like a soft drink can where if you cover up the Coke logo it could be any one of a hundred different brands.

sorry to hear about this Chris - it sucks.

The usual Mercedes body style is also copyright. You see it mentioned in some of their commercials.

Finike 02-12-2008 03:00 PM

It shows the arrogance of this company

L-Pink 02-12-2008 03:01 PM

Mercedes will say the cars image was used to help sell the product.

Vegas Ken 02-12-2008 03:03 PM

What is the world coming too?

L-Pink 02-12-2008 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Finike (Post 13771678)
It shows the arrogance of this company

Actually, if you don't vigorously protect your companies logo/copyright/trademark you can lose future rights to that copyright.

After Shock Media 02-12-2008 03:06 PM

Welcome to the world of greeking.
It is all about the copyright itself, which typically is the logo and such, rarely if ever can an object itself be copywritten. Does not mean they still can not sue the living fuck out of you and waste your time and cash. Afterall many of these companies have a lawyer or a floor of them already on payroll getting paid if they are working or not so tread lightly.

rowan 02-12-2008 03:17 PM

Mercedes isn't the only car company to bully people trying to make a buck

http://www.nissan.com/Digest/The_Story.php

Rochard 02-12-2008 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 13771679)
Mercedes will say the cars image was used to help sell the product.

Bull fucking shit. If anything, Mercedes should be paying them for free advertising!

No one is going to see a Mercedes and say "Hey, I should sign up to Lia19". But I'm willing to bet people are seeing Lia 19 on that car and saying "Wow, that's a good looking car".

L-Pink 02-12-2008 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 13771790)
Bull fucking shit. If anything, Mercedes should be paying them for free advertising!

Calm down, everyone knows the cars were used to help sell the product. Were the girls posing with used Yogo's? Of course not. And nobody is going to buy a new Benz because a girls tits were on the hood.

Rochard 02-12-2008 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 13771803)
Calm down, everyone knows the cars were used to help sell the product. Were the girls posing with used Yogo's? Of course not. And nobody is going to buy a new Benz because a girls tits were on the hood.

Not bitching at you......

If this rule applies to FTV, then it should apply to every major movie studio also - meaning that Mercedes Benz can never have their car displayed in a movie.

Note that Ford has a habit of getting their cars all over movies. I noticed "I Am Legend" was all Ford products, as well the last James Bond movie. All car companies should embrace this, not fight it.

stevo 02-12-2008 03:38 PM

Then how come Pepsi can have a commercial bashing Coca Cola (with a Coca Cola bottle in the scene)?

Another example would be Miller vs Budweiser.

How do these companies get away with showing other logos? I seriously doubt the competition would give permission for these companies to use their logos to bash their own products...

JP-pornshooter 02-12-2008 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by cherrylula (Post 13771662)
But who would they sue? Paris? Different scenario altogether.

let's use our brains and not be silly..... FTV makes $$$... you think they'd sue some dumb amateur girl site with a pic of her cheap bmw that only has 25 members? :winkwink:

It will be interesting to see how it plays out though... go FTV. :upsidedow

....and if the cars are in his COMPANY name.... ouch.

paparazzi photography is different than commercial photography, thats why you dont need a release form for the britney pussy pics, they are considered editorial/news worthy...
i dont think it matters if the cars are in his name or his company name.
btw, i think Harley Davidson did something similar and to me that was quite shocking..


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