Where do you draw the line between pedophile and....
 

teen sites? personally i am sickened by sites that promote underage looking girls when the site owner knows godd and damn well that the girl looks like she is under 18... personally, i dont give a fuck if you have 2257.. if you are shooting, promoting, or marketing, a site that caters towards the pedo crowd, you should be killed or jailed...

what do you think?

I personally think you are gay or retarded or both.

lets really cut the bullshit right here right now in this thread on GFY.

Any man who says he dosent enjoy the beauty of a young lady is gay or full of shit.

I see sexy females...under the age of 18 all the time and I am not afraid to admit it. I would proably fuck the living shit out of a sexy 17 yo and a mature 16 could serve as dinner

I guess this is the fun side of being financialy secure... I can be completely honest and don't give a shit


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i appreciate your honesty, but the law is the law... in the US it is illegal to have sex with a minor... are you saying that sex with a minor is ok?

that's not what I said..

I said I would fuck the giddy out of a 17 and eat mature 16 like it were the last meal

the same people who made most of those laws are hypocrits

I say the age of consent should be 16

Age of consent in most States is 16 I seem to recall as it is in most Western European countries

The idea of 'minor' is a concept. It is a concept which needs to be reviewed, as people in the modern world start becoming sexually active at a younger age with each generation.

The western world and U.S.A. in particular is terrified of their own sexual interests. Anything to do with sex is taboo and causes all manner of people to go insane and start quoting religious texts and so on. The same 'objective' people pay to watch videos such as two girls one cup when nobody is observing them. It's a phobia. These people censor themselves to hide the shame of their own desires. Shame which should not exist, and desires which are perfectly natural. Or, desires which are only the result of self-censorship. We want what we can't have. It's a basic and damaging human instinct.

What I'm saying is, that all this self-censorship is utterly insane. Laws preventing minors from engaging in sexual activity doesn't stop the sexual activity, it just makes people feel guilty about it, which then compounds the 'problem' if there is one.

Meanwhile I have lost my train of thought entirely, but what I wanted to say is that the concept of 'minor' should start a lot younger than it does. Not 17 years. Most 17 year olds have been fucking for several years, drinking, having just as many evil thoughts as every other 'adult'. When we censor our own desires, they warp into even more disturbing ones...

To me a pedo is someone who wants and is attracted to kids who have yet to hit puberty and much younger. Typically a pedo is moving on from the 12 year old to the younger 4 year old where he started at with the first kid.

They are not interested in teenagers with lollypops and pigtails holding teddy bears. That is just catering to the barely legal crowd which is far from what a pedo seeks.

eh if theyre 18 whats the harm?

i see your poiont, but i have to disagree... the legal consent age in the US is 18... any site that tries to portray girls that are under that age (18) are imho just trying to entice the pedo crowd...

i could name several sites and site owners, but i won't...

i am merely staing my own personal opinion and soliciting other opinions...

the harm is facilitating or encouraging sex or sexual fantasies with minors...

where do we draw the line?

sex with a minor in the US will get you jail time and a label as a sex offender..

if the govt sets the bar at 18 y/o... and under that age is illegal, then the law is clear and concise..

i have no issue with that..

what i do have an issue with, is sites that cleary try to incinuate that their models are under 18...

to be frank, no 18 y/o should or would have an interest in stuffed animals or child like surroundings in a photo shoot...

i have a real prob;lem with producers or site owners trying to profit in behaviour that they know caters to pedophiles or parties interested in underage sex...

No the legal age to be on film is 18. Here are your legal ages of consent and keep in mind the national average is 16 and this is for male on female intercourse. Also keep in mind the ages of consent for male on male and female on female is often much lower. Now here are your ages.

Alabama 16
Alaska 16
Arizona 18
Arkansas 16
California 18
Colorado 16
Connecticut 16
D.C. 16
Delaware 16
Florida 16
Georgia 16
Hawaii 16
Idaho 16
Illinois 17
Indiana 16
Iowa 16
Kansas 16
Kentucky 16
Louisiana 17
Maine 16
Maryland 16
Massachusetts 16
Michigan 16
Minnesota 16
Mississippi 16
Missouri 16
Montana 16
Nebraska 17
Nevada 16
New Hampshire 16
New Jersey 16
New Mexico 17
New York 16
North Carolina 16
North Dakota 18
Ohio 16
Oklahoma 16
Oregon 18
Pennsylvania 16
Rhode Island 16
South Carolina 16
South Dakota 16
Tennessee 18
Texas 16
Utah 16
Vermont 16
Virginia 18
Washington 16
West Virginia 16
Wisconsin 18
Wyoming 16
Traveling Citizens 18
Military personnel 17

My opinion is...the legal age of consent in the States varies between 16 to 18 with a minority of States in the 18 camp

UK is 16 - in fact pretty much everywhere it is 16 - and bollocks to the 'ooh I fancy a 17 y/o with big tits and cute arse which has been banged consistantly since she hit 15 therefore I must be a pedo'.

It doesn't.

Anyway back in the real world here is a news update. 16 y/o girls are having sex. Deal with it.

The age of consent in the US is closer to 16 than 18, but varies by state.

Pedophilia, tradionally speaking is a sexual attraction to children. Not youths, or developed teenagers. There are girls who are pretty much fully developed at 16 years old. Not that I advocade adults being attracted to 16 year olds either mind you.

So dressing up a girl with developed breasts etc in pig tails and a cheerleader outfit does not a pedo make.

i agree with the fact that 16 y/o are having sex, but would you own or promote a site thst clearly tries to make the girls seem younger than they actually are?

what about a flat chested 18 y/o?

I think you think way to much.

Oh I forgot a quasi non states.
Puerto Rico 14

Now I posted the male ages, the vast majority have same age for female and those that are like at 14 for male are at like 16 for female. (Not including the one in this post) So typically as long as female is 2 years older than the male your safe in every state assuming they have a difference at all which many do not. Though the gay male on male is wierd as they have age differences so well use your imagination when it says 14/16

its not about being safe, imho its about doing the right thing...

instead of making money the number one, how about making the welfare of the industry number one...

Hey wait now in Japan she must be 18 to legally get pounded by a 13 year old boy. Just the law and a FYI.

PS I really do not promote such sites. I just am willing to defend them even though I personally find them sick using my own morals and ethics.

I am going back in time and moving to Japan...

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You sure about those numbers? Ive always been told 18 and im from NY..

And military personnel 17? That doesnt make sense considering you cant enlist until 18...

see to me quote #19 pics and quote #20 pics are too young. yes, i am sure they are over 18, but to me, both pics represent girls that appear to be closer to 15 or 16 y/o...

so, imho, why promote girls that appear to be younger than they actually appear....

i see plenty of teen models that appear to be over 18 y/o, why not just use them and not models that appear to be under the age of 18?

Because dirty old men and 18 year old guys want chicks that look barely legal.

thats what i am talking about... you "find them sick using your own morals and ethics"...

this is not a free speech issue or legal issue, this is more about doing the right thing....

somehthing the adult world seems to care little about.....

if a model is 18, she's 18, but why would you market a girl just because she looks underage?

whether we like it or not, this is going on everyday and persoanlly i disagree with it.....

legal or not, i think anyone can see what the overall goal is and target audience...

so that makes it right?

Age of consent in whole world:
http://ageofconsent.com/ageofconsent.htm
It differs from 12 to 21 throughout the world.
Homosexuality still illegal in many US states...

Bit harsh on a model who is of age to be excluded on the grounds she looks too young!

Do I or would I promote sites that portray girls as say looking 12 to 14? No not personally as I would not be comfortable with it Equally though I am not going to get worked up over someone who chooses to do it either. Same rule applies to scat sites or beastility. I don't like it so I don't do it but I won't condemn those that do.

A whole lot of shit does not make sense when it comes to sex and specially age of consent in assorted US states and countries. BTW I was wrong with the military stats, its actually 16 but they can be charged with breaking state laws. I.E. a 30 year old could fuck a 16 year old in many states. Also NY in reality is 15/17 with some legal jargon attached.

I went on a google search just now for you and here is a breakdown by country and by state and by gender, etc.
http://www.avert.org/aofconsent.htm

Actually no on that homosexuality law in the US, most have been overturned unless your in the military of course. So they either have set ages, its been overturned, or it has been repealed.

Funnily enough I have yet to meet an American who did not swear blind that the age of consent is 18. Even when faced with the evidence that it varies between States and is commonly 16 they are still unconvinced.

Question is who, and why, is it drummed into American kids it is 18 when it isn't for the most part?

then where do you set the bar?

i am not saying that adhering to the law is wrong, but what i am saying is that the adult industry as a whole should take the higher road...

having models that clearly look underage and having them pose with stuffed animals and pigtails, etc, gives a bad name to adult and needs to be addressed...

i get the feeling that people in the "teen' market are more interested in making money that doing what the normal person would seem as the right thing to do...

that is my point and i will continue to fight for the industry to do the "right thing'....

IMO, 16 is no where near the leagl age (in terms of being able to make a rational decision) nor is 18 y/o...

IMO, the age of consent should be 21 or older (of course this varies based on the age of their partner and whether consenting or not)...

IMO, an 18 y/o having sex with her boyfriend is far different than having sex on camera, especially when the cameraman or producer is 25 y/o +....

the disconnect here is the difference between having sex and being taken advantage of...

maybe the lawas need to change...

i have no problem with a 16 y/o having sex with a 16-18 y/o boyfriend, what i have an issue with is an 18 y/o girl doing hardcore sex or even a solo site when the producer is 21 + y/o...

I refuse to think that. Otherwise it must also be applied to everything else I find repulsive or degrading. So lets take the high road and remove the following please.
Cum swapping
Ass to mouth
All forms of male on male sex
Penetration of both the pussy and ass at same time as I also find this gay.
Vomiting
Slapping the face of a girl
Showing a mans ass from behind while he is fucking something with his brown eye exposed and his balls swinging too and fro.
Transexuals fucking women or being fucked by men or by other trannies.
Most forms of S and M.
Object insertion.
Squirting/pissing.
Bald pussies
Hairsuit
Granny porn
Old on young
Gagging
Degrading the females in any shape or form.
Tit fucking as it falls under degrading.
Double dildo usage since its just fucking pointless and rarely hot in real life.
Fake plots
Unprotected sex
Not posting disclaimers in regards to anal sex and prior douching.
And well I could go on and on.

hmmm... you make a good point.. i guess i am just sensitive to the whole teen genre... reading what you posted makes me realize that there are other genres that i may not find offensive, but others might..

i guess at the end of the day i would just wish that people might use better judgement or at least more thought process when choosing to shoot, distribute, or host content, whether teen related or not....

Morals are imposed by government as laws. USA is not the holy grail of what is right and what's not.

In Canada age of consent is 14. That's right. A 14 year old can make a decision to have sex with a 40 year old.
http://www.justice.gc.ca/en/dept/clp/faq.html

So .. Canadian lawmakers are pedos? And once again according to whom? The USA has been known for babying its kids. 21 years old to drink? For fucks sake. I think 19 to drink in Canada is too high, it should be 16 like in European countries. Even though kids start drinking at 14 anyway.

So the law here is 15, does it make it right for me to go after 15 year olds?

IMO no, 15 year olds are not to be preyed on by 50 year olds. Other 15 year olds is fine.

The problem with the law on sex is it's an guessing game. As we reach puberty our bodies change in many ways, not just pubic hair but glands inside us produce chemicals that make us want to have sex. Do you make someone a criminal for doing what nature intended?

Adults who prey on younger people are after far more than sex. As the person they prey on gets younger it gets more about control than sex.

Guys who get turned on driving pass a 6th formers are remembering their first sexual experiences and arousals. A totally different thing. What you have to prove is the sites catering for them stimulate the desire or provide a release valve. Sexual crimes have usually dropped as more porn becomes available.

That kinda says it better than me.

And even though I shoot teens my thing is girls in stockings and suspenders, 25 year olds who will seduce me. Teens, unless they are very naughty and sure of themselves. Look at my work and you see few scared teens. That is what Pedos want, someone to dominate.

Underage is a legal term. Pedo is a medical term.

There is difference. I think WHO defines pedophilism as attraction to prepuberty.

Rest is morality.

You don't know what you're talking about...The average age of consent in the united states is 16...If you don't believe me, google it.

Let the processing companies decide that.

Yet it's perfectly ok for a 50 year old to prey on a girl only three years older at 18?

um hummmmmmmmmmm.

i think CP should be legalized.. shrug

So if the producer is 19 years old and sells the content that will be seen by a bunch of horny 50 year olds, it's okay?

Damn some of you people in here are slow.

Is that why you reside in 3rd world countries? So you can have sex with little kids?

You're an idiot...

Stuffing two black dicks into a 21 year old's ass and ejaculating into her will not make the adult industry look any better to outsiders just because you waited until she was 21 to do it...

Your argument is invalid and your 'fight' will go nowhere.