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Danny B 02-01-2008 03:38 AM

Dutch reporter cracks Holloway Case!
 
Yup! Peter R. de Vries is coming for you van der Sloot!
Haha ain't carma a bitch?

His report wil be broadcasted in Holland on sbs6, Sunday, 21.30 hrs

Vid where van der Sloot throws a glass of wine at Peter R. de Vries
https://youtube.com/watch?v=_mqdBSFwpyw

After a Dutch journalist declared that his private investigation had solved the mysterious disappearance of American teenager Natalee Holloway, the chief prosecutor in Aruba announced today that he is reopening the case.

Reporter Peter R. de Vries said he used a sophisticated network of hidden cameras in what he called an "undercover operation" to obtain evidence that he claimed "has solved the mystery" of Holloway's disappearance on May 30, 2005.

The mystery behind the disappearance of the blond teenager has eluded efforts by the Aruba police and even the FBI for more than two years.

This information may shed a new light on the mode of which Natalee Holloway has died and the method by which her body disappeared," Mos said today.

He credited de Vries with uncovering the leads and said, "This information may help considerably in the solution of the mystery of Natalee's disappearance."

De Vries said that he and his team had been conducting an undercover operation for several months, and that he would broadcast his findings in a special program on Dutch television this Sunday.


ABC News will air a 90-minute special edition of "20/20: The Final Hours of Natalee Holloway" on Monday, Feb. 4, at 9:30 p.m. ET

Full story:

http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/story?id=4222253&page=1

k0nr4d 02-01-2008 03:39 AM

http://www.mechbunny.com/funny/1201860558498.jpg

Who's holloway?

Danny B 02-01-2008 03:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 13726471)

And your point is......?

SmokeyTheBear 02-01-2008 04:21 AM

i dont know why media sites even give these stories any cred.

if he had some sort of credible evidence why not just tell us, why the mystery wait.. seems like whenever there is some mystery wait the news is always overblown.

theres really only 2 things that would "blow the case wide open" , that would be a clear confession or the body.

obviously he doesnt have the body , so it has to be a confession of some sort . if it was a clear confession then the story would be "hear joran CONFESS to the muder of natalie holloway", that would make headlines everywhere. but of course if he doesnt have a clear confession that would be illegal to say, so that only leaves some vague confession that won't mean a thing.

i could be wrong though , its happened before.

Enemator 02-01-2008 04:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 13726514)
i dont know why media sites even give these stories any cred.

if he had some sort of credible evidence why not just tell us, why the mystery wait.. seems like whenever there is some mystery wait the news is always overblown.

It's very simple: Peter R de Vries (the investigator) has a TV show. He's broadcasting this stuff on Sunday. He's done stuff like this before and he ALWAYS airs his show, so really, you'll see it won't just dissapear.

Why wait so long? Money. All the TV stations want to buy his story.

It's called: hyping things up.

So there you have it.

Enemator 02-01-2008 04:28 AM

The material he has is undercover footage.

Danny B 02-01-2008 04:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Enemator (Post 13726519)
It's very simple: Peter R de Vries (the investigator) has a TV show. He's broadcasting this stuff on Sunday. He's done stuff like this before and he ALWAYS airs his show, so really, you'll see it won't just dissapear.

Why wait so long? Money. All the TV stations want to buy his story.

It's called: hyping things up.

So there you have it.

Exactly. And he had done numurous investigations in the past. These are some of his bigger stories: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_R._De_Vries

He has done a lot of good work. And by making such an announcement, he has to be able to back it up. Otherwise he just dug his own grave.

This is going to be HUGE. Mark my words.

SmokeyTheBear 02-01-2008 04:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Enemator (Post 13726519)
It's very simple: Peter R de Vries (the investigator) has a TV show. He's broadcasting this stuff on Sunday. He's done stuff like this before and he ALWAYS airs his show, so really, you'll see it won't just dissapear.

Why wait so long? Money. All the TV stations want to buy his story.

It's called: hyping things up.

So there you have it.

all that may be true , but if it is about hype and money dont you think "hear jorans confession" would bring alot more hype ?

we have already established that the only 2 things that could blow the case open would be a confession or a body ..

unless there is something else , but what else could he have found that would convince you he was guilty.

SmokeyTheBear 02-01-2008 05:04 AM

he is obviously sensationalizing it

" Beth reacted deeply shocked by the pictures that proved Natalee was no longer alive. "

cmon now , anyone would think that meant he had pictures of her dead. i just don't find this very plausible.

charlie g 02-01-2008 05:13 AM

Sounds like PR for a shitty way to ear a buck!

Danny B 02-01-2008 05:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 13726566)
he is obviously sensationalizing it

" Beth reacted deeply shocked by the pictures that proved Natalee was no longer alive. "

cmon now , anyone would think that meant he had pictures of her dead. i just don't find this very plausible.

Perhaps it's not pics of her body, but some pics that give her enough reason to assume she's dead.

Anyway, speculating about the content of the show isn't getting us anywhere, but I'm pretty sure he will have a stong enough case to get van der Sloot in very big trouble.

I wil report to this thread right after the show.

Quote:

Originally Posted by charlie g (Post 13726582)
Sounds like PR for a shitty way to ear a buck!

I would of done the same after months of hard work, a glass of wine thrown at you on national TV...

ServerGenius 02-01-2008 05:42 AM

Peter is a funny dude.....I'll be watching sunday fosho

VicD 02-01-2008 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ServerGenius (Post 13726622)
Peter is a funny dude.....I'll be watching sunday fosho

Same here, maybe it can beat "Farmer looking for wife" :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

The Duck 02-01-2008 06:08 AM

sophisticated network of hidden cameras????????

VicD 02-01-2008 06:09 AM

https://youtube.com/watch?v=2nuStETkoio

https://youtube.com/watch?v=8X-n9moEbc4

Go Peter Go

nico-t 02-01-2008 06:28 AM

he can back it up for sure, the guy always does. Although i do think this case has gotten way too much rediculous coverage internationally, we all know it was the perfect temporary smokescreen for the US government to diverse the attention from the huge ongoing fuckup in iraq.

ServerGenius 02-01-2008 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vicd (Post 13726650)
Same here, maybe it can beat "Farmer looking for wife" :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Damn I love that show too.....Yvonne Jaspers is HOT and the blonde who
has the hots for Farmer Frans is also HOT! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Fletch XXX 02-01-2008 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 13726514)
i dont know why media sites even give these stories any cred.

if he had some sort of credible evidence why not just tell us,

no money in info, only money in commercials and ads

ServerGenius 02-01-2008 06:38 AM

b.t.w. Peter de Vries isn't just a reporter he was an law enforcement
investigator for many years before he became a crime reporter. Also this
isn't going to be the first case that he will crack.....he has done it several
times very successfully before and he sure won't run his mouth unless he's
sure he has a case

Danny B 02-01-2008 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ServerGenius (Post 13726710)
b.t.w. Peter de Vries isn't just a reporter he was an law enforcement
investigator for many years before he became a crime reporter. Also this
isn't going to be the first case that he will crack.....he has done it several
times very successfully before and he sure won't run his mouth unless he's
sure he has a case

Cheers Hans that's what I've been trying to say.

Joran is about to get

http://youreowned.yo.funpic.de/i/owned2.jpg

ServerGenius 02-01-2008 06:45 AM

The tape is already confirmed usable in court.....strike 1

ServerGenius 02-01-2008 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny B (Post 13726727)
Cheers Hans that's what I've been trying to say.

Joran is about to get

http://youreowned.yo.funpic.de/i/owned2.jpg

that has got to hurt....still grinches me when I see it :helpme

Fletch XXX 02-01-2008 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ServerGenius (Post 13726710)
b.t.w. Peter de Vries isn't just a reporter he was an law enforcement
investigator for many years before he became a crime reporter. Also this
isn't going to be the first case that he will crack.....he has done it several
times very successfully before and he sure won't run his mouth unless he's
sure he has a case

nothing worse than a pig who turns into a "crime reporter"

he is in it only for the money, and no matter what he says, he is an ambulance chaser

ServerGenius 02-01-2008 06:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 13726742)
nothing worse than a pig who turns into a "crime reporter"

he is in it only for the money, and no matter what he says, he is an ambulance chaser

Yes he's in it for the money....but in a different way tha US style T.V making.
Our law enforcement DOES suck....he doesn't take advantage of victims
at least not in a ruthless way and he does get cases solved, lost people and/or
bodies found and criminals behind bars.....but yes he makes a good living from
it too

:2 cents:

Fletch XXX 02-01-2008 06:59 AM

A lawyer gave me some advice once and I will never forget it: "never trust what a cop says, they lie all the time, and its my job to prove they do. It is proven in court rooms all the time."

I would rather have a lawyer as a friend than a cop any day.

My younger brother is on his way to becoming one. :)

ServerGenius 02-01-2008 07:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 13726757)
A lawyer gave me some advice once and I will never forget it: "never trust what a cop says, they lie all the time, and its my job to prove they do. It is proven in court rooms all the time."

I would rather have a lawyer as a friend than a cop any day.

My younger brother is on his way to becoming one. :)

I wouldn't want either as a friend they both screw you up....AND both
take your money......Lawyers don't give a fuck about their client....they
only give about their clients money and not losing face in court

Fletch XXX 02-01-2008 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ServerGenius (Post 13726767)
I wouldn't want either as a friend they both screw you up....AND both
take your money......Lawyers don't give a fuck about their client....they
only give about their clients money and not losing face in court

The lawyer I quoted was a friend and I never had to pay him for advice.

ServerGenius 02-01-2008 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 13726771)
The lawyer I quoted was a friend and I never had to pay him for advice.

There's exceptions to every rule of course.:winkwink:....there's also good cops I just
have never met one yet

Enemator 02-01-2008 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 13726559)
all that may be true , but if it is about hype and money dont you think "hear jorans confession" would bring alot more hype ?

Why are you assuming Joran has made a confession? Nobody claims he has.

So until Sunday, it's going to be speculation.

camchoice 02-01-2008 08:08 AM

the pr is done perfect.. even the big us channels are buying his story.. so you can't say anything wrong about that. i give a lot of credit to the pr man of peter r. de vries..

about the story..
well let's wait and see we can all speculate what he discovered but untill sunday we have to wait and speculate some more..

danny.. i hope you keep this thread updated and announce here sunday what he discovered etc etc.

ServerGenius 02-01-2008 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by camchoice (Post 13726926)
the pr is done perfect.. even the big us channels are buying his story.. so you can't say anything wrong about that. i give a lot of credit to the pr man of peter r. de vries..

about the story..
well let's wait and see we can all speculate what he discovered but untill sunday we have to wait and speculate some more..

danny.. i hope you keep this thread updated and announce here sunday what he discovered etc etc.

ABC already bought sunday's show and will broadcast it aswell :winkwink:

SmokeyTheBear 02-01-2008 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Enemator (Post 13726891)
Why are you assuming Joran has made a confession? Nobody claims he has.

So until Sunday, it's going to be speculation.

im assuming it because if they found a body we would have heard about it already right ?

so if there is no body , what other "PROOF" that natalie is dead could there be.. ?

all i can think of is a confession, but like i said i could be wrong..

pocketkangaroo 02-01-2008 10:09 AM

Does it really matter though? I mean everyone knows the 3 kids had something to do with it. And even if they had videotaped evidence of her actually dying, the Dutch police would fuck it up somehow. I've never seen a more incompetent group of law enforcement in my life.

ServerGenius 02-01-2008 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo (Post 13727383)
Does it really matter though? I mean everyone knows the 3 kids had something to do with it. And even if they had videotaped evidence of her actually dying, the Dutch police would fuck it up somehow. I've never seen a more incompetent group of law enforcement in my life.

You are aware that this didn't take place in Holland. Apart from the fact that the Dutch
Antilles are a Dutch colony they are self ruling with their own government,
own justice system, own police force.

That besides.....yes also the Dutch police force suck....but in this case they
have NOTHING todo with this whole case.

:2 cents:

ServerGenius 02-01-2008 10:20 AM

that was some proper engrish.....sorry about that :Oh crap

pocketkangaroo 02-01-2008 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ServerGenius (Post 13727422)
You are aware that this didn't take place in Holland. Apart from the fact that the Dutch
Antilles are a Dutch colony they are self ruling with their own government,
own justice system, own police force.

That besides.....yes also the Dutch police force suck....but in this case they
have NOTHING todo with this whole case.

:2 cents:

Didn't the Dutch come in a year later and try to solve it? Either way, a lot of people got played by a few 17 year old kids.

BV 02-01-2008 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ServerGenius (Post 13726767)
I wouldn't want either as a friend they both screw you up....AND both
take your money......Lawyers don't give a fuck about their client....they
only give about their clients money and not losing face in court

everybody hates lawyers until they need one :(

ServerGenius 02-01-2008 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo (Post 13727512)
Didn't the Dutch come in a year later and try to solve it? Either way, a lot of people got played by a few 17 year old kids.

No a few people on personal account perhaps but defenitely not government
officials or law enforcement.....we simply fund the Dutch antilles which is already
is bad enough......:1orglaugh

ServerGenius 02-01-2008 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BV (Post 13727530)
everybody hates lawyers until they need one :(

Yeah like taxes, politics, law enforcement and legal systems they are a necessary evil :thumbsup

JFK 02-01-2008 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ServerGenius (Post 13726710)
b.t.w. Peter de Vries isn't just a reporter he was an law enforcement
investigator for many years before he became a crime reporter. Also this
isn't going to be the first case that he will crack.....he has done it several
times very successfully before and he sure won't run his mouth unless he's
sure he has a case

btw, will this be broadcast in North America ?

Dirty F 02-01-2008 10:46 AM

AMSTERDAM - Joran van der Sloot heeft inderdaad een bekentenis gedaan in de zaak van Natalee Holloway. Het Openbaar Ministerie op Aruba bevestigde vrijdag dat een eerder uitgelekt interview van Peter R. de Vries met hoofdofficier van justitie Hans Mos klopt.

ServerGenius 02-01-2008 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFK (Post 13727576)
btw, will this be broadcast in North America ?

Yeah ABC bought the rights of a 2 hour documentary about this whole case :thumbsup

directfiesta 02-01-2008 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 13726695)
he can back it up for sure, the guy always does. Although i do think this case has gotten way too much rediculous coverage internationally, we all know it was the perfect temporary smokescreen for the US government to diverse the attention from the huge ongoing fuckup in iraq.

looks like it :

Quote:

Friday February 1, 2008 8:46 PM

By MARGARET WEVER

Associated Press Writer

ORANJESTAD, Aruba (AP) - Aruban prosecutors said Friday that they are reopening their investigation into the disappearance of Alabama teenager Natalee Holloway after seeing secretly taped material from a Dutch journalist.

``The recordings made available to the Public Prosecutor have given the Public Prosecutor a reason to reopen the investigation,'' the public prosecutor's office said in a statement.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlates...275582,00.html

TroubleTonya 02-01-2008 03:12 PM

Everyone knows these boys had something to do with her death. I can't believe that no one was able to prove it up to this point. Lets all hope that this journalist has his shit together and can really prove something. I'll be waiting with bells on my heels to see what this is all about.

justsexxx 02-01-2008 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo (Post 13727383)
Does it really matter though? I mean everyone knows the 3 kids had something to do with it. And even if they had videotaped evidence of her actually dying, the Dutch police would fuck it up somehow. I've never seen a more incompetent group of law enforcement in my life.

Haha how are you doing mister clueless:)

Enemator 02-01-2008 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 13727361)
im assuming it because if they found a body we would have heard about it already right ?

so if there is no body , what other "PROOF" that natalie is dead could there be.. ?

all i can think of is a confession, but like i said i could be wrong..

A confessions doens't necesarily mean it's Jorans confession.

Enemator 02-01-2008 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo (Post 13727383)
Does it really matter though? I mean everyone knows the 3 kids had something to do with it. And even if they had videotaped evidence of her actually dying, the Dutch police would fuck it up somehow. I've never seen a more incompetent group of law enforcement in my life.

Lol..and what do YOU know about the Dutch police?

Oh, that's right: fuck all! :1orglaugh

pocketkangaroo 02-01-2008 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Enemator (Post 13729407)
Lol..and what do YOU know about the Dutch police?

Oh, that's right: fuck all! :1orglaugh

I know three 17 year old kids made the police look like clowns.

Enemator 02-02-2008 05:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo (Post 13729423)
I know three 17 year old kids made the police look like clowns.


So by one single incident you can draw that conclusion? Wow, you are awesome.

Luckily the US police force is always on top of things. Yeah, they are awesome guys and they solve every single crime and/or murder case. Really. Good for them!

kmanrox 02-02-2008 05:19 AM

there's another guy to cross off my list of people i'd assisinate in the final months of any terminal illness i may be diagnosed with in the future..

right now there's just OJ Simpson and the Ramsy's


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