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DaddyHalbucks 01-24-2008 03:42 PM

CBS 60 Minutes: Saddam Interrogator: Saddam faked WMD to prevent invasion by Iran
 
I rarely START political threads on GFY, but this is too good to pass up...


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CBS 60 Minutes: Saddam Interrogator: Saddam faked WMD to prevent invasion by Iran, and was prepared to re-constitute his WMD programs

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/...n3749494.shtml

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Wow, this makes the Bush haters and the "Bush lied about WMD" liberal wackos look pretty dumb.

:1orglaugh

xmas13 01-24-2008 04:15 PM

The Fifth Estate - Dick Cheney: The unauthorized biography (CBC)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...77454771915005

Porn Farmer 01-24-2008 04:25 PM

So lets sum up here:

1. Saddam had no WMD and was no threat to anyone.
2. Bush lied about 'evidence' that Saddam had WMD.
3. Bush lied about pursuing all diplomatic and inspection paths to their end.

In the end, it really was all about oil.

Wow... what a revelation. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Kevsh 01-24-2008 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 13693500)
Wow, this makes the Bush haters and the "Bush lied about WMD" liberal wackos look pretty dumb.
:1orglaugh

That's one way to look at it ... or, what really happened:

Bush (via the CIA) said there was WMD.
Then, Inspectors found no WMD.
Saddam caught and interrogated, says he claimed he faked WMD.

None of Bush's claims were made based on his interrogation (they were made long before), and was entirely based on faulty "intelligence" that had nothing to do with faked evidence, from Saddam or otherwise.

So how does that get Bush off the hook?
Plus, the decision to go into Iraq was made long before they "found" WMD. This was verified both by George Tenet and Bob Woodward's books on the subject. Clearly, the Bush administration was going to "find" WMD one way or another to support their policy to overthrow Saddam.

So clearly, not one Liberal "wacko" has anything to apologize for. Bush and his Administration lied, period, and *none* of the reasons they went into Iraq were based on Saddam's faked WMD.

GITZINGER 01-24-2008 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 13693500)

Wow, this makes the Bush haters and the "Bush lied about WMD" liberal wackos look pretty dumb.

:1orglaugh

Nope, still makes Bush and you look pretty dumb.

Doesn't change the fact that the terrorist Bush Administration lied, and has killed more americans (soldiers) and innocent civilians (hundreds of thousands of Iraqis) than Al Qaeda.

xmas13 01-24-2008 04:46 PM

On a side note, Osama Bin Laden declined any responsability for 9/11, and no evidence has been found linking the events to him.

It's not the type of guy to decline responsability for his actions, unlike George Walker B.

Bin Laden is a wanted fugitive for terrorist bombings in 1998 in Africa.
http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/topten/fugitives/laden.htm

xmas13 01-24-2008 04:53 PM

We don't find Osama because we don't want to find him, and we didn't find any WMDs because there were none in the first place.

It's as simple as that.

D 01-24-2008 04:53 PM

Bush did lie.

Circumstances aside, he said they were there, and they weren't there.

It's really that simple, imho.

With the resources of this country at his disposal, I expect our Commander and Chief to know what the hell's really going on before he commits us to war. The lack of WMD's wasn't the only falsehood projected by his administration during those months he prepped us for invasion into Iraq, but it probably was the most blatantly false.

papill0n 01-24-2008 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 13693500)
I rarely START political threads on GFY, but this is too good to pass up...


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CBS 60 Minutes: Saddam Interrogator: Saddam faked WMD to prevent invasion by Iran, and was prepared to re-constitute his WMD programs

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/...n3749494.shtml

==============

Wow, this makes the Bush haters and the "Bush lied about WMD" liberal wackos look pretty dumb.

:1orglaugh

Even if Saddam did lie to prevent invasion that is infinitely better than lying to justify an invasion.

directfiesta 01-24-2008 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 13693500)
I rarely START political threads on GFY, but this is too good to pass up...


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CBS 60 Minutes: Saddam Interrogator: Saddam faked WMD to prevent invasion by Iran, and was prepared to re-constitute his WMD programs

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/...n3749494.shtml

==============

Wow, this makes the Bush haters and the "Bush lied about WMD" liberal wackos look pretty dumb.

:1orglaugh

get a brain transplant ... it is an emergency .

Phil 01-24-2008 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 13693500)
I rarely START political threads on GFY, but this is too good to pass up...


==============

CBS 60 Minutes: Saddam Interrogator: Saddam faked WMD to prevent invasion by Iran, and was prepared to re-constitute his WMD programs

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/...n3749494.shtml

==============

Wow, this makes the Bush haters and the "Bush lied about WMD" liberal wackos look pretty dumb.

:1orglaugh

wow, this defiantly makes Bush look so much smarter! Are u retarded or just related to pussyserver guy?

tony286 01-24-2008 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevsh (Post 13693776)
That's one way to look at it ... or, what really happened:

Bush (via the CIA) said there was WMD.
Then, Inspectors found no WMD.
Saddam caught and interrogated, says he claimed he faked WMD.

None of Bush's claims were made based on his interrogation (they were made long before), and was entirely based on faulty "intelligence" that had nothing to do with faked evidence, from Saddam or otherwise.

So how does that get Bush off the hook?
Plus, the decision to go into Iraq was made long before they "found" WMD. This was verified both by George Tenet and Bob Woodward's books on the subject. Clearly, the Bush administration was going to "find" WMD one way or another to support their policy to overthrow Saddam.

So clearly, not one Liberal "wacko" has anything to apologize for. Bush and his Administration lied, period, and *none* of the reasons they went into Iraq were based on Saddam's faked WMD.

excellent post:thumbsup

directfiesta 01-24-2008 06:31 PM

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh 2/27/03 :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Biggy 01-24-2008 06:42 PM

you guys must've missed the CNN article yesterday..

a study showed Bush and his aides lied 935 times up to the run up of the war.

theking 01-24-2008 09:02 PM

Just a reminder. Every intell agency in every major country...and some not so major...all were in cosenus agreement about Iraq's search for and possesion of WMDs. The UN itself was in agreement. Not one single intell agency anywhere was in consensus disagreement. What all of you are calling lies were based upon the consensus intell provided by all of the intell agencies...ours and foreign.

tony286 01-24-2008 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theking (Post 13694694)
Just a reminder. Every intell agency in every major country...and some not so major...all were in cosenus agreement about Iraq's search for and possesion of WMDs. The UN itself was in agreement. Not one single intell agency anywhere was in consensus disagreement. What all of you are calling lies were based upon the consensus intell provided by all of the intell agencies...ours and foreign.

Joe Wilson disagreed and they went after his wife.

theking 01-24-2008 09:05 PM

FYI the interpretation of intell...is as more of an art than it is a science...and is far from being exact.

sortie 01-24-2008 10:14 PM

Open Letter :

Dear Stupid Brain Washed Person,

Your government is in the process of doing anything it can to look like they were not a bunch of lying fucking idiots leading up to the Iraq war.
Including producing imaginary people who have statements from a man named Sadam who is now dead and therefore cannot refute the statements.

But because you are a loyal idiot, you will eat this crap up just like you ate the previous fucking lying crap up. You will continoulsy fail to use common deductive reasoning like the rest of us because you are nothing more than an ignorant fool wrapped in a flag. Please do the world a favor and jump off the edge of the earth and make room for progress.

Thanks you for your patronage

theking 01-24-2008 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 13694698)
Joe Wilson disagreed and they went after his wife.

Ahh...Joe Wilson was never a member of any intell agency. He was a private citizen.

DaddyHalbucks 01-24-2008 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theking (Post 13694694)
Just a reminder. Every intell agency in every major country...and some not so major...all were in cosenus agreement about Iraq's search for and possesion of WMDs. The UN itself was in agreement. Not one single intell agency anywhere was in consensus disagreement. What all of you are calling lies were based upon the consensus intell provided by all of the intell agencies...ours and foreign.

But that's not politically correct to remind people of that now.

"Bush lied" sounds so much better in the sound bites.

:Oh crap

Porn Farmer 01-24-2008 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theking (Post 13694694)
Just a reminder. Every intell agency in every major country...and some not so major...all were in cosenus agreement about Iraq's search for and possesion of WMDs. The UN itself was in agreement. Not one single intell agency anywhere was in consensus disagreement. What all of you are calling lies were based upon the consensus intell provided by all of the intell agencies...ours and foreign.

1. What was the 'intel' based upon?

2. If you do not know, could it have been manufactured?

3. Could other nations intel agencies have been privately told to toe the Bush administration line?

Perhaps then this 'intel' never actually existed?

theking 01-24-2008 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Porn Farmer (Post 13694943)
1. What was the 'intel' based upon?

2. If you do not know, could it have been manufactured?

3. Could other nations intel agencies have been privately told to toe the Bush administration line?

Perhaps then this 'intel' never actually existed?

Hmm...I am not now and have never been a member of any intel agency inlcuding when I was in the military...but I have been on the receiving end of bad intel. Anything is possible...now isn't it...but I seriously doubt that Russia and France among others would have toed the line and both intel agencys were in consensus agreement. I also doubt that the UN would have toed the line. FYI...there have been major intel failures in the past...multiple times... during multiple administrations.

spacedog 01-24-2008 11:12 PM

The criminal mastermind's gonna pardon himself :1orglaugh

https://youtube.com/watch?v=jHQ7Prwh7Gc

D 01-24-2008 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spacedog (Post 13694999)
The criminal mastermind's gonna pardon himself :1orglaugh

https://youtube.com/watch?v=jHQ7Prwh7Gc

I hadn't heard about that.

Did it get passed?

Megafoo 01-25-2008 12:09 AM

Personally, i dont think it was about wmds or oil. Bush is a rich kid riding on his daddy's legacy. He was born in a life of priviledge and 'family honor'. This was just a personal vendetta between the 'Bush' family and Saddam. Nothing more. If it was just oil we were worry about there are others ways to accomplish that. We did it with the Saudias and everyone else, just throw money at it. Saddam embarrased his father and tried to assassinate him. Now rich boy does what any rich boy would do. Throw money at it and have someone else (U.S. citizens) to do his dirty work.


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