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notoldschool 01-23-2008 08:57 PM

Firefighter: Giuliani 'ran like a coward on 9/11'
 
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Firefi...d_on_0122.html

Fucking Puss.

Spunky 01-23-2008 09:05 PM

Probably panicked like many people did in that situation..human nature

stickyfingerz 01-23-2008 09:11 PM

I dont like Rudy much for Pres, but comeon. Sounds like utter horseshit. Can't exactly lead anyone if you are under debris. They were still close enough to be in a building that was covered by the dust from the towers. Sounds like more Ron Paul supporter bs. :2 cents:

notoldschool 01-23-2008 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 13690093)
I dont like Rudy much for Pres, but comeon. Sounds like utter horseshit. Can't exactly lead anyone if you are under debris. They were still close enough to be in a building that was covered by the dust from the towers. Sounds like more Ron Paul supporter bs. :2 cents:

You really are an idiot. He refused to listen to anyone and planned that the city disaster headquarters was actually inside the twin towers. He had to nowhere to set up shop so they ran through the streets like idiots with no where to go. he panicked allright. Only a tool would associate Ron Paul with this article. :321GFY

Fat Panda 01-23-2008 09:14 PM

he was a mayor....it wasn't his job to run into any burning building...useless thread....those firefighters will think we owe them something forever....we dont owe them shit...i give them props and do respect them for doing their JOB but no one owes them anything

stickyfingerz 01-23-2008 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notoldschool (Post 13690098)
You really are an idiot. He refused to listen to anyone and planned that the city disaster headquarters was actually inside the twin towers. He had to nowhere to set up shop so they ran through the streets like idiots with no where to go. he panicked allright. Only a tool would associate Ron Paul with this article. :321GFY

Ya two buildings no one expected to fall crashed to the ground. You are bashing one of the candidates Ron Paul is running against... has NOTHING to do with that though... :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

:uhoh :uhoh :uhoh :uhoh :uhoh

tony286 01-23-2008 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 13690093)
I dont like Rudy much for Pres, but comeon. Sounds like utter horseshit. Can't exactly lead anyone if you are under debris. They were still close enough to be in a building that was covered by the dust from the towers. Sounds like more Ron Paul supporter bs. :2 cents:

no they actually hate him, he fucked them pretty hard. Firefighters died because of his incompetence.

directfiesta 01-23-2008 09:17 PM

Fred Thompson for president :thumbsup







:winkwink:

stickyfingerz 01-23-2008 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 13690106)
no they actually hate him, he fucked them pretty hard. Firefighters died because of his incompetence.

Doesn't matter if they hate him. The basis of the argument that he "ran" away is what is bs. He was the Mayor, not the Capitan of a sinking ship. Why would he stay someplace in direct harms way in order to run the operation of helping the City that day? Thats just retarded. Ya he should of been down at the base of the Twin Towers deflecting large chunks of debris away from any citizens with his super powers. Whole premise is just silly.

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 13690110)
Fred Thompson for president :thumbsup







:winkwink:

Wow you are witty. He dropped out. Yet he was doing better than Ron Paul in many of the polls hmmm.

LiveDose 01-23-2008 09:25 PM

It's no secret the firefighters don't like Giuliani but blaming him solely for their radios. I would say many people would share blame for that. Congressmen, Fire Chiefs & SENATORS for example.

Fap 01-23-2008 09:34 PM

good timing to announce that..

MetaMan 01-23-2008 10:02 PM

LOL all politicians are crooks, how do you figure out who is the least crooked? is it even possible?

notoldschool 01-23-2008 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 13690121)
Doesn't matter if they hate him. The basis of the argument that he "ran" away is what is bs. He was the Mayor, not the Capitan of a sinking ship. Why would he stay someplace in direct harms way in order to run the operation of helping the City that day? Thats just retarded. Ya he should of been down at the base of the Twin Towers deflecting large chunks of debris away from any citizens with his super powers. Whole premise is just silly.



Wow you are witty. He dropped out. Yet he was doing better than Ron Paul in many of the polls hmmm.

You really are the most ignorant person to grace this board since minusoneshit.

baddog 01-24-2008 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 13690106)
Firefighters died because of his incompetence.

Really? How so?

Zango 01-24-2008 02:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spunky (Post 13690075)
Probably panicked like many people did in that situation..human nature

If huge skyscrapers were falling around me, I would run like a little girl myself. No shame in that.

I can't imagine how horrifying that morning was for those at the scene.

Odin 01-24-2008 02:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 13690575)
Really? How so?

Maybe not his incompetence, but certainly because of incompetence. I remember studying the 9/11 response at University here and comparing it to how Australian protocol would dictate the situation *should* be managed. Unfortunately on 9/11 many brave men bolted up the stairs, rather than waiting for a proper base command to be established and a more informed decision to be made about a response.

Malicious Biz 01-24-2008 03:12 AM

Yeah could've keep himself and the rest of the new york city government directly in the path of destruction "for some reason". Or, like he wisely chose to do, he did his fucking job and preserved the continuity of the NYC government and pulled out.

TheSenator 01-24-2008 05:01 AM

FACT: Giuliani is a liar about the events of 9/11
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Video_...lies_0530.html


Wake up people... Giuliani is not your friend.

12clicks 01-24-2008 05:23 AM

its really sad that his opponents would use these obviously emotionally and mentally damaged firefighters and families to attack Rudy.

Blaming him for them not having the proper radios? when was the radio invented again and how many mayors have been in office since then and how many other high rise fires have been fought?

its pathetic and the people using these firefighters as puppets to attack Rudy should be shot. I guarantee you these people are not paying their own way to be in florida.

Michaelious 01-24-2008 05:30 AM

What did they want the guy to do, stand there at stare or get out of the way and then help.

Wouldn't anyone else run?


As far as i'm aware if you aren't a trained fireman you'd be in everyones way, or be at risk yourself so he kinda has to be away from danger.
That and the fact he needs to still be alive to coordinate stuff.

stickyfingerz 01-24-2008 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notoldschool (Post 13690261)
You really are the most ignorant person to grace this board since minusoneshit.

Yes ignorant because I dont tongue fuck Ron Paul and his followers. Mmkay. I dont like Rudy.. Did you not catch that? I wont vote for him, but trying to say he should of stayed in harms way just cause he was mayor is beyond fucking ridiculous. He was part of the team that was making decisions that day. He did not need to be climbing the stairs rescuing people. That wasn't his fucking job.

Anyone asinine enough to think like that is ignorant. :2 cents:

Tom_PM 01-24-2008 10:24 AM

I praise firefighters for their heroic work. But let me tell you, I dont give a rats ass who firefighters endorse for president, or anything else.

Giuliani was so visible on TV on and after 9/11 because someone else wasn't.

notoldschool 01-24-2008 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 13692023)
Yes ignorant because I dont tongue fuck Ron Paul and his followers. Mmkay. I dont like Rudy.. Did you not catch that? I wont vote for him, but trying to say he should of stayed in harms way just cause he was mayor is beyond fucking ridiculous. He was part of the team that was making decisions that day. He did not need to be climbing the stairs rescuing people. That wasn't his fucking job.

Anyone asinine enough to think like that is ignorant. :2 cents:

I actually could care less if he ran and jumped in the ocean on 911. I just posted a link to a story and you attack Ron Paul because hes in my sig. EVERYONE knows Rudy Guliani is a horrible leader, not because of 911, but because he sucked as mayor of new york, period. He is a scum bag who would run this country farther into the ground, but thats not why I posted this story. if you think Ron Paul sits around making these stories to hurt Guliani you are proving how big of an ass hat you really are.

If guliani had any thing other than fake leadership during 911 you would see it in his commercials, but his campaign people cant come up with one good policy or platform to stand on other than ...I can save you from terrorists..:1orglaugh:1orglaugh Atleast Ron Paul stands for something. Guliani is a Bum. :2 cents:

TubeTitans_SusieQ 01-24-2008 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spunky (Post 13690075)
Probably panicked like many people did in that situation..human nature

true:thumbsup

Karupted Charles 01-24-2008 10:38 AM

If you think Rudy is bad did any of you live in NY under Dinkins?

justsexxx 01-24-2008 10:42 AM

Yeah we need ARNOLD there! He woudld have stopped all planes himself, and killed the bad guys

notoldschool 01-24-2008 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karupted Charles (Post 13692115)
If you think Rudy is bad did any of you live in NY under Dinkins?

And that proves what? That because the previous leader sucked we should be happy with an equally shitty leader. Good try, but no prize.

stickyfingerz 01-24-2008 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notoldschool (Post 13692103)
I actually could care less if he ran and jumped in the ocean on 911. I just posted a link to a story and you attack Ron Paul because hes in my sig. EVERYONE knows Rudy Guliani is a horrible leader, not because of 911, but because he sucked as mayor of new york, period. He is a scum bag who would run this country farther into the ground, but thats not why I posted this story. if you think Ron Paul sits around making these stories to hurt Guliani you are proving how big of an ass hat you really are.

If guliani had any thing other than fake leadership during 911 you would see it in his commercials, but his campaign people cant come up with one good policy or platform to stand on other than ...I can save you from terrorists..:1orglaugh:1orglaugh Atleast Ron Paul stands for something. Guliani is a Bum. :2 cents:

Guliani is a bum, and Ron Paul is a kook with less of a chance of winning than Ross Perot would have if he ran today...

Sorry but anyone with a VOTE RON PAUL sig that posts dirt on the opposing candidates didnt do it just to post a current news story. Where did you find this story? Hmm I wonder. Was it posted on the Ron Paul forums? :1orglaugh

Hmm ya no Ron Paul retards are trying to use this to help out the "Ron Paul Revolution" :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

http://www.ronpaulwarroom.com/?p=2794

And forums? Cant post links but here is a google search.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...ul&btnG=Search

Just sad...

baddog 01-24-2008 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief (Post 13690803)
Maybe not his incompetence, but certainly because of incompetence. I remember studying the 9/11 response at University here and comparing it to how Australian protocol would dictate the situation *should* be managed. Unfortunately on 9/11 many brave men bolted up the stairs, rather than waiting for a proper base command to be established and a more informed decision to be made about a response.

Right, so blame the mayor. Good idea. Hindsight is 20-20


Quote:

Originally Posted by notoldschool (Post 13692103)
I actually could care less if he ran and jumped in the ocean on 911. I just posted a link to a story and you attack Ron Paul because hes in my sig. EVERYONE knows Rudy Guliani is a horrible leader, not because of 911, but because he sucked as mayor of new york, period. He is a scum bag who would run this country farther into the ground, but thats not why I posted this story. if you think Ron Paul sits around making these stories to hurt Guliani you are proving how big of an ass hat you really are.

If guliani had any thing other than fake leadership during 911 you would see it in his commercials, but his campaign people cant come up with one good policy or platform to stand on other than ...I can save you from terrorists..:1orglaugh:1orglaugh Atleast Ron Paul stands for something. Guliani is a Bum. :2 cents:

Guliani may be a bum, but he is Donald Trump and Arnold Einstein combined compared to you.

Karupted Charles 01-24-2008 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notoldschool (Post 13692141)
And that proves what? That because the previous leader sucked we should be happy with an equally shitty leader. Good try, but no prize.

Thats not my point. My point is if you lived in NY under Dinkins and saw the damage he did to the city you would realize how good of a leader guiliani is. He came into a really bad fucked up situation much like our government is in now. He made NY safe for families, got people working again, held NY together under the worst terrorist attack on US soil.

It's easy to be a monday morning quarterback and dis on him for this or that but plain and simple NY is better off after having him as leader then before.

Tom_PM 01-24-2008 11:04 AM

No biggy. It'll be McCain anyway (if it's Romney.. then "lol"), and he'll lose to whichever democrat runs.
Gotta remember that America votes like a student driver drives; overcorrecting. We went from dem. pres/rep congress to rep pres./rep congress to rep pres/dem congress.. so you can guess whats next... dem pres/dem congress.. then we'll bitch and moan and put the reps back in control of congress. Ah.. the cycle of life.. from poop to poop.

Pleasurepays 01-24-2008 11:13 AM

what a strange thing to do ... to wake up everyday, obsessed with a particular viewpoint... then spend the whole time trying to dig up anything and everything, no matter how silly, irrational or questionable and post it as more "evidence" that your own views are right. you have to be pretty insecure, paranoid and god only knows what else to actually think and behave like that (i guess "like that" will be taken to mean "huh? what the fuck are you talking about... i'm just telling the truth and your brainwashed").

FACT: GFY makes people dumber.

LiveDose 01-24-2008 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karupted Charles (Post 13692115)
If you think Rudy is bad did any of you live in NY under Dinkins?

Oh my god. I was living there while that idiotic clown was destroying NYC bit by bit. It makes me laugh whenever I hear libs and dems praise that piece of garbage.

Anyone who was in New York while that dope was mayor saw an unbelieveable decline in quality of life. Absolutely pathetic.

pizzaid 01-24-2008 01:00 PM

would you have ran in there...:321GFY

baddog 01-24-2008 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 13692768)
Arnold?

Albert's lesser known cousin.

Quagmire 01-24-2008 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAC (Post 13690100)
he was a mayor....it wasn't his job to run into any burning building...useless thread....those firefighters will think we owe them something forever....we dont owe them shit...i give them props and do respect them for doing their JOB but no one owes them anything

How dare you bring logic and reason in to this thread?? Who the fuck do you think you are? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

EZRhino 01-24-2008 02:53 PM

Not 100% sure if the radio issue is true or not but 5 Blocks from the south tower isnt very far. I've walked 5 blocks from the WTC, takes only a few minutes in good weather. Holy shit what did you want the Mayor and city managers to do? Did he want the city leaders to stand in debris and in a building that was damaged, no water, electrical, or phone service? Sounds like that kind of person who suffers and wants everyone to suffer with him. If I was going to run, I think I would atleast run 6 blocks.

stickyfingerz 01-24-2008 03:05 PM

http://adamfuckedsteve.com/threadbackfire.jpg

OY 01-24-2008 04:13 PM

Better or worse reaction than this: http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/bushbook.mov ?

directfiesta 01-24-2008 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 13693327)

Stick with Fred ...:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Do you want me to quote your " mark my words " thread .... of Thompson being president ...

As for backfire, you are a specialist ...... :)

stickyfingerz 01-24-2008 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 13694042)
Stick with Fred ...:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Do you want me to quote your " mark my words " thread .... of Thompson being president ...

As for backfire, you are a specialist ...... :)

Omg I was wrong. Fred gave up. He shouldnt of. Things should of been run differently. Ill live with it. You however will always be a fuck stain. :2 cents:

notoldschool 01-24-2008 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 13692195)


Guliani may be a bum, but he is Donald Trump and Arnold Einstein combined compared to you.

And I am god compared to you.



Hey I can play this game. lol. Guliani licks cow balls.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1333/...78eecf.jpg?v=0

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2157/...8a8b23.jpg?v=0

http://abowlofstupid.com/wp-content/...2/Giuliani.jpg

Doctor Dre 01-24-2008 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spunky (Post 13690075)
Probably panicked like many people did in that situation..human nature

Yes but you don't want a president panickign do you ?

notoldschool 01-24-2008 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doctor Dre (Post 13694358)
Yes but you don't want a president panickign do you ?

U got a point there. I also think the president should have served in the military.

stickyfingerz 01-24-2008 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doctor Dre (Post 13694358)
Yes but you don't want a president panickign do you ?

Is it really panicking to move 5 blocks away from huge falling debris? Seriously what universe do you expect a Mayor to stay in the footprint of a falling building. Some of you people watch too many action movies... lmao


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