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Jenny S. 01-08-2008 10:53 AM

Anybody knows how to nuke Spambots?
 
I'm starting to pick up more and more spam bot signups on my PHPBB forums. Most of them simply register, include a website link and a few keywords in location, occupation and signature, and never activate. The sign-ups seem to be automated, or are there really trolls out there that sit on the computer spamming on 12/31/07 at 11.51 pm EST? They do somehow manage to read out the activation code which is provided as a jpg.

Sole purpose of theses sign-ups seems to be to boost an URL for Viagra, Cellphones, etc. in google rankings by creating many back links. These signups typically have

- no referer or user agent
- a bogus ICQ number
- bogus email account (.uk, .de, .com, .au, etc.)
- a changing proxy IP

I actually didn't mind this as long as it was happening in moderation, but lately some asswipe signs up with 15-20 different addresses every day, which is too much.

Can someone explain to me how that spam-biz works, what do people get really out of it doing this, and how it can be avoided?

mrwilson 01-08-2008 10:55 AM

are you running the latest version of phpbb? later releases normally include fixes to prevent it.
There are also possibly mods/addons you can install.

martinsc 01-08-2008 11:04 AM

since i installed phpbb 3 - all spam was gone... totally... not even one bot user, not even one spam message... I have tons of them before the upgrade....

Jenny S. 01-08-2008 11:04 AM

Well, it's true, whenever we upgrade the forum the problem seems go away for about 4-6 weeks, then it starts all up again. They seem to find a backdoor quickly. Haven't tried version 3 yet.


We've been dealing with this shit for 2 years now.

martinsc 01-08-2008 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jenny S. (Post 13623943)
Well, it's true, whenever we upgrade the forum the problem seems go away for about 4-6 weeks, then it starts all up again. They seem to find a backdoor quickly. Haven't tried version 3 yet.


We've been dealing with this shit for 2 years now.

When I was running v2 - i had the same problem
I have 3 running since BETA - half a year without spam...
you might give it a try...

another thing that can always help is adding a human input box in the sign up form (i did that on v2 and it helped a lot). something simple...

Jenny S. 01-08-2008 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by martinsc (Post 13624016)
another thing that can always help is adding a human input box in the sign up form (i did that on v2 and it helped a lot). something simple...

We did exactly that, a code is displayed as a JPG and needs to be put in manually into a dialog box. It did take care of the problem for about 4 weeks, now they must have figured out a way to automatically read out the JPG.

It is a bot, I am sure. No matter how geeky you are, you're not sitting on Christmas and New Years Eve all night signing up for forums and putting codes into dialog boxes, and that was exactly the time when I go lots of sign-ups. (Even the most relentless GFY posters, guys that apparently never sleep, with a message count of 2 posts/hr. over a 3 year time period, seemed to give it a rest on New Years Eve.)

k0nr4d 01-08-2008 02:32 PM

Can you post a sample of your CAPTCHA jpg? Might just a better captcha

ichauch 01-08-2008 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jenny S. (Post 13623878)
on my PHPBB forums

There's your problem. You should consider switching to vbulletin.

Jenny S. 01-08-2008 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 13625026)
Can you post a sample of your CAPTCHA jpg? Might just a better captcha

OK

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/5818/kapwo8.jpg

OzMan 01-08-2008 04:54 PM

Been broken for months...very easy captcha to break, same font, all caps, no distortion etc etc.. even the "are you human?" was a dumb idea

They do it, as you said, for backlinks and traffic...do the upgrade as suggested.

Jenny S. 01-08-2008 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OzMan (Post 13625677)
Been broken for months...very easy captcha to break, same font, all caps, no distortion etc etc.. even the "are you human?" was a dumb idea

They do it, as you said, for backlinks and traffic...do the upgrade as suggested.


OK, I will.

k0nr4d 01-08-2008 05:03 PM

Yeah that captcha is pretty weak


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