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minusonebit 01-02-2008 01:37 AM

Hey John, Your Attorney is an Idiot, Too.
 
If this is the kind of legal hot shots I am gonna be defending against, I am not worried - at all - about my chances of success.

First off, here is the docket sheet in 3:06-CV-04079, TMM, LLC v NR Media, Inc. apparently, TMM sued XclusiveCash before XclusiveCash sued them. Notice how at the bottom of the page, on the very first line, John's attorney sent the wrong filing fee to the Court. Isn't an attorney supposed to know what the then-current filing fee is for the court he practices in? Never mind, its a rhetorical question: yes he is!

And now, here is the Complaint from that case. You don't start a complaint off with "Count 1". You don't list the counts you are charging until you have alleged the facts upon which you rely on for those counts. If anything, you start it with "Complaint" and then "Facts of the Case" and then "Count I", etc and finally a "Prayer for Relief", -or- you can also do "Introduction", then "Parties" then "Jurisdiction", then "Facts of the Case" and then "Count I", etc and finally a "Prayer for Relief", if you want to go the long way. Most professionals do it the second way because it gets rid of a month worth of BS jurisdiction issues motions back and forth BS at the start.

I have NEVER seen a style manual that says you start off with "Count I" as the lead of your complaint, and I have read and own copies of them all.

Its clearly novice hour over at John's counsel's office. I can't wait to be served with my summons written on the back of a dinner napkin.

pip 01-02-2008 01:41 AM

If you were smart you would not comment on the lawsuit on a message board, its only going to hurt your case

L-Pink 01-02-2008 01:42 AM

Passing the bar isn't proof that someone is smart. It is however proof they're not stupid. I'd worry about something else.

dav3 01-02-2008 01:46 AM

<< SEE SIG >>

Zango 01-02-2008 01:48 AM

The element of surprise is a great tool. If you are going to attack someone, do it with a blow so hard and unexpected that they crumble.

Crying about it here and telling the world what you are doing is working against you.

Bojangles 01-02-2008 01:48 AM

<< See Sig >>



:winkwink:

minusonebit 01-02-2008 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pip (Post 13590049)
If you were smart you would not comment on the lawsuit on a message board, its only going to hurt your case

I hope he does print it off and file it as an Exhibit. Judge would read it and agree and that can only work in my favor. :1orglaugh

minusonebit 01-02-2008 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zango (Post 13590062)
The element of surprise is a great tool. If you are going to attack someone, do it with a blow so hard and unexpected that they crumble.

Crying about it here and telling the world what you are doing is working against you.

LOL, I hope you are a fake nic. Zango? Are you kidding me? You guys post here? LOLOLOL

I don't need the element of surprise for something like this. I'm not gonna attack the way John's counsel handled things in another case not related to mine. I'm just having fun here.

dig420 01-02-2008 02:04 AM

do your mom and dad know you like the cock?

Any new craigslist boyfriends?

minusonebit 01-02-2008 02:08 AM

LOL, there is more.

Finally, we have John's lawyer not following Rule 4(d)(1) and requesting a waiver of return of service. As such, the other side had to put it together themselves and file it at their own expense.

Jesus Christ, John. Does your attorney always fuck up 75% the stuff he files? You guys only filed five items in that case, and thats if I give you credit for the proposed order that your counsel put together at the Court's direction, but they are the ones that filed that. Also assumes I count the complaint and the summons as two separate filings (and in fact, they are - and thats another fuckup - the summons get filed with the complaint, not 4 days later).

LOLOLOLOLOL

Funny shit here. We are up to like 75% of the filings in this case having some defective attribute to them. Man, I'd fire my lawyer at this point, John.

dig420 01-02-2008 02:09 AM

There is even MORE!!

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=795095

minusonebit 01-02-2008 02:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dig420 (Post 13590102)

Keep spamming that around, I honestly don't care.

MicDoohan 01-02-2008 03:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by minusonebit (Post 13590123)
Keep spamming that around, I honestly don't care.

hahahaha of course you don't you psychiatric homo thief :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

sued your parents lately ? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

p.s that wise crack earnt you another bump keithy :winkwink:

escorpio 01-02-2008 03:04 AM

Please get psychiatric help before you hurt someone.

fuzzylogic 01-02-2008 03:16 AM

ya? but i bet my keyboard is bigger than yours.

dig420 01-02-2008 03:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by minusonebit (Post 13590123)
Keep spamming that around, I honestly don't care.

Good. I think I'll make that my only reply in every thread you're involved in. Just to make sure that everyone knows you're a 300 lb mentally disturbed individual who sucks dicks from Craigslist. I mean, since you don't care.

minusonebit 01-02-2008 03:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzzylogic (Post 13590295)
ya? but i bet my keyboard is bigger than yours.

I bet my keyboard is cooler than yours...

ShaveBucks 01-02-2008 05:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by minusonebit (Post 13590043)
Its clearly novice hour over at John's counsel's office.

And yet you're not an attorney at all which makes you even less than novice.

pip 01-02-2008 05:56 AM

Im gonna call Keith's mommy today

Enemator 01-02-2008 06:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pip (Post 13590745)
Im gonna call Keith's mommy today

:1orglaugh

Wouldn't that just take the biscuit :1orglaugh

Scootermuze 01-02-2008 08:30 AM

Quote:

Isn't an attorney supposed to know what the then-current filing fee is for the court he practices in? Never mind, its a rhetorical question: yes he is!
Aren't you supposed to know, with all of your Time-Life how-to books, that lawyers submit partial filing fees all the time... it's done for a reason in many cases.. I'm surprised that you being the expert you are, you haven't a clue..

Quote:

I have NEVER seen a style manual that says you start off with "Count I" as the lead of your complaint, and I have read and own copies of them all.
It was accepted as a valid document by the court..That's what matters..
If you look through other such documents, you'll find that formatting isn't as nit picky as you wish they were so you could carry on with your simpleton ramblings..

Keep thinking you're the better person.. I guess someone needs to think that..

FredIsMe 01-02-2008 08:40 AM

I'd worry about your own ass, not the attorney

minusonebit 01-02-2008 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scootermuze (Post 13591246)
Aren't you supposed to know, with all of your Time-Life how-to books, that lawyers submit partial filing fees all the time... it's done for a reason in many cases.. I'm surprised that you being the expert you are, you haven't a clue..



It was accepted as a valid document by the court..That's what matters..
If you look through other such documents, you'll find that formatting isn't as nit picky as you wish they were so you could carry on with your simpleton ramblings..

Keep thinking you're the better person.. I guess someone needs to think that..

Yep, they pay part of the filing fee when they are too broke to afford the whole thing, or when they are too stupid to get it right the first time.

The court will almost accept things on a napkin. That doesn't mean they meet the standards for filing nor does it mean that they are properly formatted according to accept standards, i.e. what the style guides speak of.

notoldschool 01-02-2008 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by minusonebit (Post 13591577)
Yep, they pay part of the filing fee when they are too broke to afford the whole thing, or when they are too stupid to get it right the first time.

The court will almost accept things on a napkin. That doesn't mean they meet the standards for filing nor does it mean that they are properly formatted according to accept standards, i.e. what the style guides speak of.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:error
You calling the owner of tmm or any real lawyer broke is funny. You cant even afford your meds, counseling, or to pay for friends and you call them broke. If you had any money you wouldnt have to auction off your dick sucker on Craigs list. Dipshit.

seeric 01-02-2008 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dig420 (Post 13590318)
Good. I think I'll make that my only reply in every thread you're involved in. Just to make sure that everyone knows you're a 300 lb mentally disturbed individual who sucks dicks from Craigslist. I mean, since you don't care.

i don't get the craigslist thing anywhere i read it. where did that come from?

link please.

TheDoc 01-02-2008 10:43 AM

I have been through my share of legal fights, from a more personal level to the gov. Been through a few law firms, good and bad. All sides screw up all the time, even the best lawyers/firms, from paper work to exactly what should have been filed, even what should or shouldn't be done or was stated to do.

This is one of the big reasons why really good lawyers can pull off a long shot cases and win.

I'm sure John/Tmm hasn't been through a great deal of legal fights. It takes time to learn the ropes, learn a client, learn a lawyer, learn if you need to change council or not. But it doesn't take much to sue someone for making up clear frivolous slander and lies about tmm/nats and all nats clients. You could file that on a napkin and win.

dial 01-02-2008 11:00 AM

well, apparently they are doing something right because xclusivecash is a sinking ship and tmm is about to win that lawsuit

Pleasurepays 01-02-2008 11:07 AM

you will ultimately end up in prison, or dead in the next 5-10 years if you don't get help.

but there is a good side... if you end up in prison, you will be living with like minded idiots who are right about everything, who "get it", who are "just victims of oppression" and you will be surrounded by really cool personalities that you look up to, such as The Unibomber, Timothy McVeigh and other serial killers.


surely your young, white, squishy butt will make a great currency in prison.

JFK 01-02-2008 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FredIsMe (Post 13591285)
I'd worry about your own ass, not the attorney

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:thumbsup

Phil 01-02-2008 11:39 AM

somebody get him off this board

DaddyHalbucks 01-02-2008 11:47 AM

The battles are one thing, the WAR is another.

Pleasurepays 01-02-2008 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 13592405)
The battles are one thing, the WAR is another.

well.... considering this is a bit like a 10 year old retarded kid trying to invade England... i think the notion of "battles" or "the war" are pretty much irrelevant.

dav3 01-02-2008 05:01 PM

need more drama

minusonebit 01-02-2008 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dial (Post 13592152)
well, apparently they are doing something right because xclusivecash is a sinking ship and tmm is about to win that lawsuit

That I somehow doubt. I smelled bullshit when they announced that case, and word has it that the evidence that has come out to date in discovery has not supported that viewpoint.

.~. 01-02-2008 05:36 PM

I don't think this is as funny as you want it to be.

A support staff member usually worries about "filing fees" and it is not uncommon for someone to send the wrong amount to a court clerk. Happens all the time and is easily remedied. Demonstrates nothing.

The rules for drafting a complaint vary from state to state (and from court to court). That might be the reason you haven't seen that particular complaint format. Unless he forgot the essentials, makes NO difference to the case.

The waiver of service was probably a matter of John sending it to the Defense Counsel and they signed and returned it to the court. No expense involved. Normally you might file your waivers with the complaint in Federal Court, but there are MANY reasons why you might not be able to do so. Not an issue at all.


Every single one of these so called "defective attributes" are not really defective and won't affect anything at all regarding the case.

This isn't a game of gotcha - you have a typo in your complaint The court will make sure of that.

baddog 01-02-2008 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 13592477)
well.... considering this is a bit like a 10 year old retarded kid trying to invade England... i think the notion of "battles" or "the war" are pretty much irrelevant.

You never saw 'The Mouse That Roared'?

_Richard_ 01-02-2008 05:45 PM

haha

first of all, that court filing fee was probably because some office clerk made a mistake

second, you don't really know what you're talking about, cause you wouldn't be bragging about how smart you were on a message board lol

GigoloMason 01-02-2008 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by minusonebit (Post 13594119)
That I somehow doubt. I smelled bullshit when they announced that case, and word has it that the evidence that has come out to date in discovery has not supported that viewpoint.

That's probally because people who operate in the real world keep legal procedings private pending a decision.

As for the rest you're more or less 100&#37; wrong. I really think you need to re read what you posted, and then re read the filings because what occured in those inital filings seems to have gone way over your head. Not that it's particularly suprising.

PS: I know Al's track record in the court room, and from all the crap thats gone on aruond here I have a pretty good idea what yours is. Guess which one of you I'd trust with a legal situation. Hint: It's not you.

shunga 01-02-2008 06:01 PM

Best news I've heard for a while. He will still be claiming he's the smart one in a world full of idiots when they're prising the keyboard from his hands.

V_RocKs 01-02-2008 06:14 PM

I almost fell asleep when I got to the end of this mindless drivel.

Pleasurepays 01-02-2008 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs (Post 13594409)
I almost fell asleep when I got to the end of this mindless drivel.

he's either going to change the world we live in for the better (highly unlikely)
or strap a bomb to himself and jump onto a bus full of school kids (highly likely)


either way, its worth paying attention to... out of morbid curiousity and the trainwreck value, or to have a clue as to which school bus, in which town to avoid.

GigoloMason 01-02-2008 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 13594450)
he's either going to change the world we live in for the better (highly unlikely)
or strap a bomb to himself and jump onto a bus full of school kids (highly likely)


either way, its worth paying attention to... out of morbid curiousity and the trainwreck value, or to have a clue as to which school bus, in which town to avoid.

My vote is a school bus micheal moore in team america style.

dial 01-02-2008 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by minusonebit (Post 13594119)
That I somehow doubt. I smelled bullshit when they announced that case, and word has it that the evidence that has come out to date in discovery has not supported that viewpoint.

uh, no...might wanna do a little investigation on the public facts

in fact, I seem to recall one person that was the head of norivals (formerly xclusivecash) stepping down as the guy in charge...this was a few months after the case started

xclusivecash STOLE tens of thousands of dollars from affiliates, there is NO way they can win that case

fatfoo 01-02-2008 11:34 PM

blah blah blah blah

minusonebit 01-03-2008 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dial (Post 13595709)
uh, no...might wanna do a little investigation on the public facts

in fact, I seem to recall one person that was the head of norivals (formerly xclusivecash) stepping down as the guy in charge...this was a few months after the case started

xclusivecash STOLE tens of thousands of dollars from affiliates, there is NO way they can win that case

From what I have heard, the allegations are bullshit and untrue.

Pleasurepays 01-03-2008 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by minusonebit (Post 13595993)
From what I have heard, the allegations are bullshit and untrue.


dial 01-03-2008 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by minusonebit (Post 13595993)
From what I have heard, the allegations are bullshit and untrue.

might wanna ask the hundreds of affiliates that are owed money about that

i know one guy that is owed $10k in REBILLS ALONE


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