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buzzy 01-01-2008 03:12 AM

Bush to veto pay raise for the troops
 
What the fuck?

http://www.americablog.com/2007/12/b...ops-merry.html

spunkmaster 01-01-2008 04:19 AM

You Idiot !

The veto has zero to do with any pay raises and look up Bush's history on Military pay and you'll see it's better then any President in history !

The veto is because the Democrats added 20 Billion to the bill plus a bunch of shit Iraq objected to !

Barefootsies 01-01-2008 04:27 AM

O'Pine Some More
 
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Originally Posted by spunkmaster (Post 13586334)
You Idiot !

The veto has zero to do with any pay raises and look up Bush's history on Military pay and you'll see it's better then any President in history !

The veto is because the Democrats added 20 Billion to the bill plus a bunch of shit Iraq objected to !

Pure comedy...

V_RocKs 01-01-2008 05:08 AM

Pork barrel politics.

minusonebit 01-01-2008 05:16 AM

Good. Maybe the troops will get smart and go on strike and we can be done with this stupid, good for nothing war. Then again, probably not. Smart people would not enlist in Bush's army.

dav3 01-01-2008 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by minusonebit (Post 13586373)
Maybe the troops will get smart and go on strike

:1orglaugh

teksonline 01-01-2008 05:30 AM

troops are getting good money, and you should see the resign bonuses, i seen some $50k checks just for another 4 years in bonuses up front

gideongallery 01-01-2008 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by teksonline (Post 13586387)
troops are getting good money, and you should see the resign bonuses, i seen some $50k checks just for another 4 years in bonuses up front

re-enlist bonus not resign bonus

notoldschool 01-01-2008 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by teksonline (Post 13586387)
troops are getting good money, and you should see the resign bonuses, i seen some $50k checks just for another 4 years in bonuses up front

LOL. Give me a break. Dont get hurt or they take it back in full regardless of what you got left. You obviously have never served.

cykoe6 01-01-2008 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spunkmaster (Post 13586334)
You Idiot !

The veto has zero to do with any pay raises and look up Bush's history on Military pay and you'll see it's better then any President in history !

The veto is because the Democrats added 20 Billion to the bill plus a bunch of shit Iraq objected to !

Quoted for truth :thumbsup

notoldschool 01-01-2008 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by cykoe6 (Post 13586778)
Quoted for truth :thumbsup

qouted for bullshit.

L-Pink 01-01-2008 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by minusonebit (Post 13586373)
Good. Maybe the troops will get smart and go on strike and we can be done with this stupid, good for nothing war. Then again, probably not. Smart people would not enlist in Bush's army.

I wouldn't call the thousands of reservists dumb. I wouldn't call soldiers protecting your right's to be an ass dumb either. These troops could be anywhere in the world, some were ordered to Iraq. If you can't show the average soldier respect at least cut him some slack.

Call his superiors anything you like with my blessings.

FredIsMe 01-01-2008 10:10 AM

“Military men are dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns for foreign policy.”
~ Henry Kissinger

baddog 01-01-2008 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by minusonebit (Post 13586373)
Good. Maybe the troops will get smart and go on strike .

Your idiocy seems to have grown deeper with the new year.

This should be interesting.

baddog 01-01-2008 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by notoldschool (Post 13586834)
qouted for bullshit.

How is it bullshit?

DivaShane 01-01-2008 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by buzzy (Post 13586266)

I had the same thought when I read the article.

notoldschool 01-01-2008 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 13587429)
How is it bullshit?

"The veto has zero to do with any pay raises and look up Bush's history on Military pay and you'll see it's better then any President in history!"

Bullshit.

notoldschool 01-01-2008 12:29 PM

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/wa..._military_pay/

Bush resists Democrats on military pay
White House says 3.5% hike is too costly
By Bryan Bender, Globe Staff | May 19, 2007

WASHINGTON -- The White House is trying to kill a Democratic plan to increase the size of a military pay raise next year, contending it would be too costly and that members of the armed forces are already sufficiently compensated.


Breaking News Alerts In a letter from the White House Office of Management and Budget to congressional committees overseeing the military, OMB director Rob Portman said Wednesday that the administration "strongly opposes" a Democratic plan to bump up military salaries by 3.5 percent instead of Bush's request for a 3 percent jump.

"The cost of increasing the FY 2008 military pay raise by an additional 0.5 percent is $265 million in FY 2008 and $7.3 billion" if similar raises are enacted over the next five years, Portman's office said in a six-page memo outlining concerns about the defense spending bill that was approved by the House early Friday and will be taken up by the Senate this week.

The 3 percent raise proposed by Bush is equal to the increase in the Employment Cost Index estimated by the US Bureau of Labor Statistics. New recruits currently make a base salary of $15,617 but are eligible for various bonuses and receive extensive benefits.

Top Democratic leaders vowed to continue their efforts to enact a larger raise, arguing that members of the armed forces and their families deserve annual pay raises higher than the private sector due to the dangers of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The plan to hike military salaries is part of a larger effort by the Democratic Party to demonstrate its support of troops as it moves to place restrictions on funding for the Iraq war.

House leaders are particularly anxious to dispel the notion that Democrats are unsupportive of the military.

Congress often adds money to the annual White House spending request for military programs. Yet the newly elected Congress, which is controlled by Democrats, has placed more emphasis on increasing funding for military personnel than for weapons programs such as missile defense systems, according to MacKenzie Eaglen , a national security specialist at the Heritage Foundation, a conservative-leaning public policy think tank.

"This bill [passed by the House] promotes the softer spending -- such as healthcare, compensation, and readiness -- rather than equipment and weapons," she said.

She said she worries, like the White House, that too much spending on compensation and other personnel costs could unduly drain funding from vital weapons systems.

Democrats, however, think the higher salaries are justified.

In a letter circulated to Senate colleagues yesterday urging their support for the higher pay raise, Senator John F. Kerry , Democrat of Massachusetts, chided the Bush administration for opposing the measure even as it lobbies Congress to extend tax cuts for some of the wealthiest Americans.

In a separate letter to Bush yesterday, Kerry said he was "extremely disappointed" by the White House position on the pay raise, saying it stands "in direct contrast to the will of the American people who support all the efforts to support our troops."

Kerry previously coauthored the Military Family Bill of Rights, which is now law, that increased the death benefit for surviving spouses and family members of troops killed in action to $250,000. The Kerry legislation also extended the amount of time survivors can remain in military housing after their loved one is killed to a full year.

Kerry's new call for greater military pay was echoed by a group of Iraq veterans yesterday.

"The pay raise in the bill is equivalent to approximately $6 a month in troop pay-raise increases," VoteVets.org, a Democrat-leaning military advocacy group said in a statement.

The group's spokesman, John Bruhns , an Iraq veteran, said that "for President Bush to begrudge our troops a pay raise of [one-half] percentage point is outrageous, appalling, and just unacceptable."

He said more financial compensation is especially needed at a time when Army deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan have been extended from 12 months to 15 months.

The veterans group also urged the White House to support another provision in the House bill that would provide an additional $40 a month for family members of soldiers killed in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The House defense bill authorized $644 billion for the Department of Defense for the year beginning Oct. 1, including $142 billion to pay for operations in Iraq and Afghanistan.

"The bill provides our troops with more than the Bush administration requested, including a pay raise more in keeping with what they deserve," House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said in a statement yesterday.

notoldschool 01-01-2008 12:29 PM

http://www.military.com/features/0,1...tml?ESRC=eb.nl


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