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Barefootsies 12-18-2007 09:55 PM

2257: Content Producers. Step Inside.
 
Just curious how you are handling your 2257 docs since you have to provide them to the people you are selling to?

You provide the I.D. with the model's name and D.O.B., and black out the rest? You providing the model release with all of her info?

I know that some content providers are not providing shit, and tell people to refer authorities to them (like in the case of TGPs) so they are not handing out model's info to the beer money people.

Discuss.
:helpme

Grapesoda 12-18-2007 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 13534773)
Just curious how you are handling your 2257 docs since you have to provide them to the people you are selling to?

as a guy that shoots and shot 'custom exclusive' content it's really not much of an issue. -bmb

Barefootsies 12-18-2007 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by bm bradley (Post 13534852)
as a guy that shoots and shot 'custom exclusive' content it's really not much of an issue. -bmb

True dat player.

If you are not selling semi exclusive, or a content store. Or dealing with selling off assets later down the line, prolly is no concern to you.

AaronM 12-18-2007 10:29 PM

These days I only shoot exclusive and I only shoot for the clients I want to shoot it for....People I personally know and trust. They get all the dcs uncensored.

Barefootsies 12-18-2007 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 13534879)
These days I only shoot exclusive and I only shoot for the clients I want to shoot it for....People I personally know and trust. They get all the dcs uncensored.

Thanks chief.

Was just curious. I see so many debates on here about companies who refuse to hand over uncensored, or anything. Was curious how others handle it.

Jim_Gunn 12-18-2007 10:37 PM

Same for me, I only film custom exclusives for pretty much well known web and DVD companies, so they get all the content and docs as a matter of routine.

Paul Markham 12-18-2007 11:20 PM

Have not changed the way we operate in years, we were always compliant with 2257 and still are.

We provide on the vast majority of our content the following.

Picture of the girl holding 2 2257 compliant IDs next to her face at the beginning of every shoot. The IDs contain a picture of the girl, her legal name, signature and D.O.B. We black out her ID number.

A model release signed on the day the set was shot, signed by her, witnessed and containing any other names she may have worked under and she writes in her D.O.B. We remove her address.

Not changed anything, was and still 2257 compliant.

amacontent 12-18-2007 11:51 PM

I have them sign a piece of paper saying:

ITS OKIE DOKIE for Joe to use this

Lykos 12-19-2007 01:47 AM

You don't black out anything,we provide regular ID and signed model release,all is visible.

Barefootsies 12-19-2007 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Lykos (Post 13535235)
You don't black out anything,we provide regular ID and signed model release,all is visible.

I was referring mainly to model's contact info. Obviously these girls are not going to be working for the company you are providing for, so there is no need for address, e-mail, phone numbers, etc.

Paul Markham 12-19-2007 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 13535300)
I was referring mainly to model's contact info. Obviously these girls are not going to be working for the company you are providing for, so there is no need for address, e-mail, phone numbers, etc.

Exactly, no need for contact info and it's safest not to give it. So if Lykos has a very cute girl, I buy her set and then contact her to work for me. Lykos, save me the trouble and just send the girls phone numbers. LOL

Grapesoda 12-19-2007 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn (Post 13534901)
Same for me, I only film custom exclusives for pretty much well known web and DVD companies, so they get all the content and docs as a matter of routine.

holy crap!! a guy that stills uses film!

Iron Fist 12-19-2007 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by bm bradley (Post 13536313)
holy crap!! a guy that stills uses film!

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Good thread :)

Topher49er 12-19-2007 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 13534964)
Have not changed the way we operate in years, we were always compliant with 2257 and still are.

We provide on the vast majority of our content the following.

Picture of the girl holding 2 2257 compliant IDs next to her face at the beginning of every shoot. The IDs contain a picture of the girl, her legal name, signature and D.O.B. We black out her ID number.

A model release signed on the day the set was shot, signed by her, witnessed and containing any other names she may have worked under and she writes in her D.O.B. We remove her address.

Not changed anything, was and still 2257 compliant.

as a consumer of content, i can honestly say that paul's stuff is always excellent when it comes to 2257 info. always well organized and easy to work with.

kudos paul...

ChefJeff 12-19-2007 10:34 AM

I only shoot exclusive content. The client provides me with their preferred model release. I hand them back the releases, IDs and sometimes a video disclaimer. Basically, whatever the client wants as far as 2257, I give it to them.

Anyone need some exclusive content?

www.WeShootContent.com

Barefootsies 12-19-2007 01:21 PM

Good feedback gents.

For those who deal with multiple companies, just wanted to make sure you were blocking out model info as well.

There is no need for TGP owners, or affiliates, or clients buying content to have contact info on the girls.

AaronM 12-19-2007 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 13537720)
Good feedback gents.

For those who deal with multiple companies, just wanted to make sure you were blocking out model info as well.

There is no need for TGP owners, or affiliates, or clients buying content to have contact info on the girls.


I agree, there is no reason for that....BUT....I trust my clients so if they want that info, they can have it.

Most girls don't even have their current address on their ID's but as ChefJeff mentioned, various clients supply their own releases and some of those releases do request that info.

Barefootsies 12-19-2007 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 13537740)
I agree, there is no reason for that....BUT....I trust my clients so if they want that info, they can have it.

Most girls don't even have their current address on their ID's but as ChefJeff mentioned, various clients supply their own releases and some of those releases do request that info.

I agree wholeheartedly if you are working with one studio, or a handful and do all your work there. You have a trust system in place, and repeat business. I concur 100%.

But if you do not have that rapport, then going through the extra steps to protect the girls are key. Especially when there were talking about every beer bong McDonald's affiliate or TGP owner was going to need copies of the docs.

I do not think so...

dready 12-19-2007 01:32 PM

I go out of my way to make sure all content is compliant. Most, if not all of our docs are unblanked. I don't have any issue with a producer wanting to blank the model's address, but name, photo, DOB, and ID# must always be visible. I leave the decision up to the producers themselves.


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