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Phoenix 12-11-2007 09:53 AM

Has anyone here tried the SMith Manouvre?
 
Anyone here with any experience with this?

the only real benefit i can see is turning a non tax deductible mortgage into a tax deductible one.

Risks, the borrowing of money to invest in a fixed income fund which could be good or turn into shit.

has anyone done this? has anyone thought out all the logic?

k0nr4d 12-11-2007 11:34 AM

I clicked this thread thinking it was some sort of weird sex-move like "the angry dragon" or something. This thread DOES NOT deliver... :(

UFGators2007 12-11-2007 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 13500122)
I clicked this thread thinking it was some sort of weird sex-move like "the angry dragon" or something. This thread DOES NOT deliver... :(

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Phoenix 12-11-2007 12:08 PM

hehe hardy har

im really hoping to find someone who has looked into this or is doing it etc

CDSmith 12-11-2007 12:12 PM

I invented the Smith maneuver.

...but it's a lot different than the one you've described. :D



But with regard to taxes and mortgages, it's worth pointing out that although your mortgage per se isn't tax deductible, your mortgage interest is.

As well, if any part of your home is considered office space (as in work space) you can write off that % of your utilities and other costs and applicable expenses... as I do every year. So in a way albeit indirectly your mortgage is at least marginally covered with write-offs.

But no, I'm not familiar with any maneuver designed to allow one's entire mortgage to become tax deductible.

Got a link?

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 12-11-2007 12:15 PM

I invented CDSMITH Manure.

Phoenix 12-11-2007 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 13500295)
I invented the Smith maneuver.

...but it's a lot different than the one you've described. :D



But with regard to taxes and mortgages, it's worth pointing out that although your mortgage per se isn't tax deductible, your mortgage interest is.

As well, if any part of your home is considered office space (as in work space) you can write off that % of your utilities and other costs and applicable expenses... as I do every year. So in a way albeit indirectly your mortgage is at least marginally covered with write-offs.

But no, I'm not familiar with any maneuver designed to allow one's entire mortgage to become tax deductible.

Got a link?

http://www.smithman.net/home.html

i didnt want to link to a forum but if you look up smith manouvre in google..you will find some people talking about it.

it also brings in some heavy life insurance

CDSmith 12-11-2007 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ (Post 13500312)
I invented CDSMITH Manure.

Careful, it's so toxic I hear it'll blow up a meth lab.

Unconfirmed but I wouldn't chance it.



Phoenix thanks, I'll have a look at those links. :D

CDSmith 12-11-2007 12:49 PM

This here is a pretty good read... http://www.canadiancapitalist.com/20...noeuvre-debate

Still looking at other stuff on this though...

CDSmith 12-11-2007 01:01 PM

In this article: http://www.milliondollarjourney.com/...-manoeuvre.htm
it says "Maxing out your RRSP and investing for the long term will outperform the Smith Manoeuvre."

I tend to agree. One of the most amazing and productive ways of putting your money to better use for you involving RRSP's is this:

Temporary loan strategy:
(How to make a 50% higher RRSP contribution for the same money)

Example --
- Let's say you can afford $1,000 savings and decide to get an RRSP.
- You borrow $536 to go with your usual $1,000 RRSP contribution and you make an RRSP contribution of $1,536
- No payments are due on the loan for 6 months. The rate is 7%.
- You get a tax refund of $545 because of the RRSP.
- You use the refund to pay the loan off including $9 for 3 months interest.
- You have now put $1,536 in your RRSP for only $1,000.
- Your RRSP growth is 50% more than without the Temporary Loan.


I love this strategy, and wish I had of figured it out or been told about it years ago. I only ran across it last year.

msan 12-12-2007 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 13500122)
I clicked this thread thinking it was some sort of weird sex-move like "the angry dragon" or something. This thread DOES NOT deliver... :(

I clicked this thread too thinking the same way. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh


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