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anarchy 11-27-2007 12:15 PM

Question to people that like the current foreign/terrorist policy
 
What do you see as a solution to ending the terrorist threat? Next to the nuking of Iran how far would you like to see it go? Would you prefer the government to mass-exterminate the muslims? Or only the radical ones?

Next to this I would like to know your opinion on securing the homeland. Would you prefer that there are cameras put in every street to prevent terrorism? How do you see this? Do you mind getting a chip implanted so the government can keep track of everyone to prevent terrorism?

Would like to know your vision.

anarchy 11-27-2007 01:19 PM

noone? :P

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 11-27-2007 01:21 PM

Retarded...

L-Pink 11-27-2007 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ (Post 13429233)
Retarded...

Retarded, really is the way to go :thumbsup


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GreyWolf 11-27-2007 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by anarchy (Post 13428926)
What do you see as a solution to ending the terrorist threat?

What terrorist threat?? :1orglaugh

Nope - there is no "solution" to terrorism - just a belief that there may be and no government on this planet can "cure" that problem. If they claim they can - they lie.

Brother Bilo 11-27-2007 01:40 PM

All joking aside, I really don't see what the big deal about putting cameras out on the street. I mean, youre in public, so you aren't looking for privacy, so who gives a shit if the cameras are watching?

anarchy 11-27-2007 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Brother Bilo (Post 13429335)
All joking aside, I really don't see what the big deal about putting cameras out on the street. I mean, youre in public, so you aren't looking for privacy, so who gives a shit if the cameras are watching?

Airport cameras have face recognition software, so they would be able to know where you are, if you are stressed, horny etc.. would that be ok with you?
The essential question would be: Would you mind if the government knows where you are at all times? Yes/no?

raymor 11-27-2007 02:20 PM

The US hasn't been attacked for quite a few years now, so whatever
is being done seems to be working.

puravida 11-27-2007 03:17 PM

fuck naw. why do they need to know what im doing 24/7? fuck them fuckers, and all you sheep that let it happen, too

anarchy 11-27-2007 06:54 PM

more comments?

DaddyHalbucks 11-27-2007 07:04 PM

Address threats before they mature and before thousands of innocents die. That's GWB's post-9/11 strategy, and it makes sense.

anarchy 11-29-2007 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 13431057)
Address threats before they mature and before thousands of innocents die. That's GWB's post-9/11 strategy, and it makes sense.

How do you see this? Please give more details. Put all us-muslims in concentration camps?

kane 11-29-2007 02:37 PM

You should read a book by Robert Baer called See No Evil. He was a CIA agent that worked in the middle east in the 80's and 90's and he really lays into our government about how we just stopped caring about the middle east and how many of the terrorist attacks that have happened could have been stopped if they would have kept agents in the field collecting intelligence instead of falling back and relying to heavily on satellites and the internet.

I think you can't stop terrorism but you can curb it. Here are a few thoughts.

1. Education. In the US we have a very small number of people that are obscenely rich and a small number that are extremely poor and most fall somewhere in the middle class. No matter how much money you have you can get an education. In many middle eastern countries there are a small number of very rich and a massive number that are very VERY poor. When you are starving and barely surviving and someone offers you food and money and a chance to go to school you start to listen to them. When they start telling you that the US is to blame for your hardship, you have no reason not to believe it. Your education becomes one of extremism, not a typical education. We need to find a way to increase the general education level of these people so they are not taught by extremist.

2. The spread of information. many countries in the middle east have government controlled TV, internet, newspapers, radio, ect. If you grow up your whole life being told someone is evil and you never see anything suggesting otherwise, you start to believe it. We need help break these censor barriers down and get information into people's hands and let them see what the rest of the world is like and that we aren't evil, just different.

3. Oil. We need to curb our dependence on oil. The more oil we need from over there the more influence we want to have in that region and they don't like us telling them how to live or what do to. They see us as pushing ourselves on them and we do it because we want that oil. If we don't need that oil we have less interest in that region and thus our influence will yield and they will have one less reason to hate us.

4. You can't spread democracy through the barrel of a gun. We have to stop invading and threatening military action. First off it doesn't work. These are people that are willing to blow themselves up to kill us, do we think the threat of shooting them will scare them. For every terrorist we kill in Iraq we make 5 more with our occupation of Iraq. Now we are threatening Iran. Maybe Iran is a legit threat. Maybe we should have gone after them and not Iraq, but regardless of the truth many people in the middle east see us as warmongers that will just invade anyone that doesn't agree with them. See my above comments as to why this is dangerous and why they won't easily change their minds.

5. Reward democracy. If countries start having democratic elections and they start putting reasonable people in power that speak out against terrorism, we should reward those countries in some way. Get the money and rewards into the hands of the people. Last year when Israel invaded Lebanon and blew up a bunch of buildings Hezbollah members went to those that lost their homes and handed them cash to replace it. With that money and support they just got themselves a new sympathizer or member. We need to do the same.

And last we need to kick the CIA into high gear again. Start recruiting and training agents and get them on the ground. Let them find and stop terrorist while they are still small and less powerful.

Anyway, sorry for the long post, just some thoughts I had.

Mistah Charlie 11-29-2007 02:45 PM

Is this a porn webmaster board? Just checking....

Mistah Charlie 11-29-2007 02:46 PM

PS I think there ARE conservatives, and republicans on this board, something that just defies logic, but then the world is full of all sorts of contradictions. Moralizing pornographers, for example.

kane 11-29-2007 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Mistah Charlie (Post 13447234)
PS I think there ARE conservatives, and republicans on this board, something that just defies logic, but then the world is full of all sorts of contradictions. Moralizing pornographers, for example.

Can you not be a moral person in the porn business? What about porn exactly is immoral. We all have sex (or at least would like to :) ) The only difference is these people are having sex and people are paying to watch. It is recreation. Just because you want to watch someone be naked or have sex doesn't mean you are an immoral person. Morality is simply a code of conduct. Is someone who lives a good life, does good stuff with their money, follows the law and treats their fellow human beings, but sells porn then an immoral person? If so why?

GreyWolf 11-29-2007 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by anarchy (Post 13446760)
How do you see this? Please give more details. Put all us-muslims in concentration camps?

Correct - but preferably in Gitmo to avoid all laws :winkwink:

Ironically there would be no "enemies of the state" if the US stayed the hell out of other peoples biz and stopped setting up puppet governments, equipping and training dictators and teaching these people how to torture effectively. How many "invasions" or "police actions" have there been in the last few decades?? 50+ That speaks volumes.

Sow the seed and reap the rewards....

tony286 11-29-2007 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by GreyWolf (Post 13448927)
Correct - but preferably in Gitmo to avoid all laws :winkwink:

Ironically there would be no "enemies of the state" if the US stayed the hell out of other peoples biz and stopped setting up puppet governments, equipping and training dictators and teaching these people how to torture effectively. How many "invasions" or "police actions" have there been in the last few decades?? 50+ That speaks volumes.

Sow the seed and reap the rewards....

You are so right, they jump on Ron Paul but he was right. You keep fucking with the people over there its only a matter of time til something would happen.
The whole Saddam gassed all those people the media leaves out a important part. Bush the first told them rise up against saddam and we will support you.They rose up and we hung them out to dry, we are just as guilty for their deaths as saddam was. We installed the shah of iran and saddam and trained bin laden.its so far from the hate us for our freedoms.We have to get off our dependence on foreign oil.
Get out of that area and they want to kill each other have a party.

Shagbunny 11-29-2007 08:31 PM

im wid teh retards

DaddyHalbucks 11-29-2007 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Mistah Charlie (Post 13447234)
PS I think there ARE conservatives, and republicans on this board, something that just defies logic, but then the world is full of all sorts of contradictions. Moralizing pornographers, for example.

A few Republicans identify themselves that way because they truly believe in the bedrock Republican principles of small government, low taxes, self reliance, and strong defense.

Not all Republicans are Evangelical moralizers. There are also quite a few pro-choice Republicans.

DaddyHalbucks 11-29-2007 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by GreyWolf (Post 13448927)
Correct - but preferably in Gitmo to avoid all laws :winkwink:

Ironically there would be no "enemies of the state" if the US stayed the hell out of other peoples biz and stopped setting up puppet governments, equipping and training dictators and teaching these people how to torture effectively. How many "invasions" or "police actions" have there been in the last few decades?? 50+ That speaks volumes.

Sow the seed and reap the rewards....


As long as criminals exist, so will the need for police.

It's a damn shame that the UN is such a joke.


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