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Grapesoda 11-24-2007 04:50 PM

this is fucked up
 
http://www.reuters.com/article/newsO...62541420071123

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Three suspected al Qaeda militants, including two sisters, beheaded their uncle and his wife, forcing the couple's children to watch, Iraqi police said on Friday.

The militants considered that school guard ******* al-Hayali was an infidel because he did not pray and wore western-style trousers, they told police interrogators after being arrested in Diyala province northwest of Baghdad.

$5 submissions 11-24-2007 05:21 PM

That's the kind of action that makes Al Qaeda an increasingly marginalized force in Iraq. For most of it's post-WWII history, Iraq's Sunni's have been largely secular. This kind of extremism just adds to people's distaste for Al Qaeda and extremist Islam in general. Perhaps, Iraqis are now separating Islamic extremism from nationalist resistance. You don't necessarily have to be the former in order to subscribe to the latter.

Megafoo 11-24-2007 05:23 PM

Or the iraqi officials just labeled them 'al Qaeda' to distance the iraqi people from that sort of behavoir.

papill0n 11-24-2007 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by $5 submissions (Post 13415355)
That's the kind of action that makes Al Qaeda an increasingly marginalized force in Iraq. For most of it's post-WWII history, Iraq's Sunni's have been largely secular. This kind of extremism just adds to people's distaste for Al Qaeda and extremist Islam in general. Perhaps, Iraqis are now separating Islamic extremism from nationalist resistance. You don't necessarily have to be the former in order to subscribe to the latter.

Agree 100% 5$ :thumbsup

2012 11-24-2007 05:27 PM

you're right. it doesn't get anymore fucked up then that ....

Grapesoda 11-24-2007 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by fartfly (Post 13415385)
you're right. it doesn't get anymore fucked up then that ....

sure it does: they start that crap in the US and the fucking courts back down because we don't want to offend and any
minorities or fucking Muslims. -bmb

Grapesoda 11-24-2007 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by $5 submissions (Post 13415355)
That's the kind of action that makes Al Qaeda an increasingly marginalized force in Iraq. For most of it's post-WWII history, Iraq's Sunni's have been largely secular. This kind of extremism just adds to people's distaste for Al Qaeda and extremist Islam in general. Perhaps, Iraqis are now separating Islamic extremism from nationalist resistance. You don't necessarily have to be the former in order to subscribe to the latter.

the sad reality is that the arabs are completely unable to co-exist with any other culture, even with each other and we in the west continually pay the price. :( -bmb

2012 11-24-2007 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by bm bradley (Post 13415604)
sure it does: they start that crap in the US and the fucking courts back down because we don't want to offend and any
minorities or fucking Muslims. -bmb

mmmmmmkay

L-Pink 11-24-2007 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by bm bradley (Post 13415639)
the sad reality is that the arabs are completely unable to co-exist with any other culture, even with each other and we in the west continually pay the price. :( -bmb

A tribal culture that rules by violence/power. House of Saud is the best example.

GatorB 11-24-2007 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by bm bradley (Post 13415639)
the sad reality is that the arabs are completely unable to co-exist with any other culture, even with each other and we in the west continually pay the price. :( -bmb

Same thing could be said of Europeans until very recently.

Spunky 11-24-2007 06:52 PM

Too fucked up indeed...barbarians

Shagbunny 11-24-2007 10:50 PM

holy fucking animals

L-Pink 11-24-2007 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 13415881)
Same thing could be said of Europeans until very recently.

Europe was generally country vs country not tribe/clan warfare within the country. Countries can live in peace, tribal shit goes on forever.

tony286 11-24-2007 10:58 PM

this is why you needed a monster like saddam there.

GatorB 11-25-2007 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 13416727)
Europe was generally country vs country not tribe/clan warfare within the country. Countries can live in peace, tribal shit goes on forever.

Go back about 800-1000 years

Vick! 11-25-2007 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by bm bradley (Post 13415182)
BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Three suspected al Qaeda militants, including two sisters, beheaded their uncle and his wife, forcing the couple's children to watch, Iraqi police said on Friday.


suspected? lol ..

What if I suspect one of them was Bush's gay friend? .. What if Iraqis suspect they are US soldiers? What if someone suspect its someone?

Fuck it dude. You only hear to those who have power to get heard .. the fucking brain washing media.

I remember when Fox News claimed Al-Qaeda is involved in Cali wildfires .. wtf?

L-Pink 11-25-2007 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 13416995)
Go back about 800-1000 years

That's not very recently.

Vick! 11-25-2007 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by bm bradley (Post 13415639)
we in the west continually pay the price. :( -bmb

Why don't you keep your asses outta there then? :Graucho

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 13417001)
That's not very recently.

1000 years is sure like 'very recently' in the life of nations and countries .. :2 cents:

V_RocKs 11-25-2007 01:58 AM

This is why you just go in there and blow up their fucking religious worship areas... Fuck em... God isn't on their side so why pretend that he is?

GatorB 11-25-2007 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 13417001)
That's not very recently.

Recently Europe started 2 world wars. Slightly more of a nuisance than some tribal shit. Also Islam is 700 years younger than Christianity. What were Christians in Europe like 700 years ago? Hell just 300 years ago they were burning young girls to death for being witches. By that account if Muslims stops "honor" killing it's women before 2300 AD they'll be ahead of Christianity.

Vick! 11-25-2007 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 13417037)
Recently Europe started 2 world wars. Slightly more of a nuisance than some tribal shit. Also Islam is 700 years younger than Christianity. What were Christians in Europe like 700 years ago? Hell just 300 years ago they were burning young girls to death for being witches. By that account if Muslims stops "honor" killing it's women before 2300 AD they'll be ahead of Christianity.

Quoted for truth and post bookmarked for future reference.

Thanks GatorB.

D 11-25-2007 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 13417037)
Recently Europe started 2 world wars. Slightly more of a nuisance than some tribal shit. Also Islam is 700 years younger than Christianity. What were Christians in Europe like 700 years ago? Hell just 300 years ago they were burning young girls to death for being witches. By that account if Muslims stops "honor" killing it's women before 2300 AD they'll be ahead of Christianity.

By that logic, you're saying it's acceptable for me to start a religion today and kill people, in the name of my religion, for the next 1500 years.

it's fucking barbaric shit, no matter how you spin it. :2 cents:

GatorB 11-25-2007 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by D (Post 13417201)
By that logic, you're saying it's acceptable for me to start a religion today and kill people, in the name of my religion, for the next 1500 years.

it's fucking barbaric shit, no matter how you spin it. :2 cents:

No I'm saying people in glass house shouldn't throw stones. I'm an atheist I've never killed anyone beacause of some belief in a fake god.
So yes I can judge.

D 11-25-2007 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 13417465)
No I'm saying people in glass house shouldn't throw stones. I'm an atheist I've never killed anyone beacause of some belief in a fake god.
So yes I can judge.

I don't think most here have killed anyone based on their spiritual beliefs (whether it be Buddhist, Hindu, Jewish, Atheist, Agnostic or whatever). I doubt most of the people here have killed anyone for any reason at all.

And I'm not entirely sure what your personal spiritual beliefs have to do with anything here... apart from the idea that maybe you're acting out against some personal resentment you have in regards to Christianity.

The topic here is a human issue, imho.


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