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HighRoller 11-22-2007 04:40 PM

9/11 conspiracy
 
I have heard people over the years say their is some sort of conspiracy, I didn't look into it, or read on it, etc.

I really don't know what the conspiracy is about, so could someone give me a good 10-60 minute clip on youtube that is the most well done that will describe the different points.

sixxxthsense 11-22-2007 04:44 PM

loose change


look up those keywords

HighRoller 11-22-2007 06:36 PM

I just watched it, great video

but where is a video that actually talks about why in the world all of this happened, what are good reasons for the US to be a party to this.

spacedog 11-22-2007 06:44 PM

6 fucking years & people still don't get it.

zabijaq 11-22-2007 06:47 PM

All the conspiracy theory vids have some real clues anyone reasonable could make a point from, but they are filled with 5x more speculations and untruth information to make it more sensational so the whole movie looks like fantasy crap. But if You look whole movies, there are still tons of facts that proves who did that. As roman lawyers in Rime 2 thousands years ago uses for deciding who's guitly etc: Cui Bono (search Wiki if You don't know). And then You got the answer by Yourself.

BTW I love people that believe 3 implossions at one place in one moment can happen (sure they can in 1:278769823596837589639545435893) - WTC 1+2+7.

MediaGuy 11-22-2007 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by HighRoller (Post 13407821)
I really don't know what the conspiracy is about, so could someone give me a good 10-60 minute clip on youtube that is the most well done that will describe the different points.


http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...ch&plindex =5

I really don't bother debating this crap with people because it's sorta like trying to reason neo nazis or Islamic Fundamentalists... pure faith, no logic involved.

Actually the last Loose change:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...c h&plindex=3

Is more researched and factual, though ultimately a little boring compared to the first one.... but chekc it out.


Enjoy.

HighRoller 11-22-2007 07:22 PM

I am not trying to quickly debate that some of this isn't true
let's say a lot of what he is saying is true

Ok

again why did the US fake all of these things, what did they have to gain from all of this, Oil? or is there something a little more specific and thought out?

MediaGuy 11-22-2007 07:29 PM

Well, first watch the video links I sent you.

There's no simple cut & dried answer that can sum it all up though I'm sure we can come up with something if you watch those two vids.

HighRoller 11-22-2007 07:29 PM

Cui Bono

Ok let's go with that

what political party, or person had something to gain from 9/11 and how so?

Cyrano 11-22-2007 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by HighRoller (Post 13408282)
Cui Bono

Ok let's go with that

what political party, or person had something to gain from 9/11 and how so?

If you need to be spoon-fed there's really no point in explaining.

HighRoller 11-22-2007 07:39 PM

If you take the fact that putting something like this together gives the government the reason to use the patriot act and other means to track individuals in every sense, which leads into the whole new world order
and that whole thing, than it would make sense.

Big_Red 11-22-2007 07:42 PM

the higher powers that be let it happen to get their evil agenda fast tracked.

bronco67 11-22-2007 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by HighRoller (Post 13408334)
If you take the fact that putting something like this together gives the government the reason to use the patriot act and other means to track individuals in every sense, which leads into the whole new world order
and that whole thing, than it would make sense.

That makes sense -- but then, you take into account the fact that the orchestration of such a plan is pretty impossible, and definitely couldn't be carried out by an administration that didn't have the cleverness to plant some WMD's in Iraq.

Don't let your hatred of an administration blind you to plain logic...the WTC square footage is 6 times the amount of the largest controlled demolition ever executed. Anyone with even the most casual knowledge of controlled demolition should know that a job of this magnitude could not be pulled off given the circumstances(location, traffic, logistics, skilled personnel willing to murder American citizens). It's just fucking ridiculous and anyone who believes these conspiracy theories is a nutbag.

I only use the WTC controlled demo as an example because this idea seems to be one of the big ones at the heart of these silly ass discussions.

I hate Bush too and I can't wait for a new president, but this just stupid.

iSMOKE 11-22-2007 07:51 PM

United 93 was shot down...

spacedog 11-22-2007 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MediaGuy (Post 13408217)

Holy Fuck! Some serious, deep shit there!!

MediaGuy 11-22-2007 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by iSMOKE (Post 13408382)
United 93 was shot down...

Prove it.

I don't diagree with you but I'm tired of being told I'm a psychotic. So I won't agree or go along with you.

Link me, reference your statement, whatever, or shut up. Even my friends treat me like shit if I state any reasonable comment on this.

iSMOKE 11-22-2007 08:49 PM

Reference my statement? 2planes hit WTC, 1 plane hits pentagon, fighter jets take off to patrol the airways, united 93 goes down over a completely empty space with no possible witnesses to say "Hey, i saw that plane get shot down" Also, there were parts of that plane scattered for SEVERAL MILES. None of the others had debris anywhere other than the crash site. Shoot a plane down from the sky and parts start flying everywhere.

Now, with all that being said, of course i have no proof and no one does or ever will. This is just my own little 'conspiracy theory'. I just think it makes more sense than anything else. Why were the fighter jets sent up in the air then one just somehow crashes.

iSMOKE 11-22-2007 08:53 PM

http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/flight_93.html

iSMOKE 11-22-2007 08:54 PM

INDIAN LAKE, Pennsylvania—Eyewitness testimonies have generally been excluded from the official version of 9-11. In the Shanksville area, where many residents believe Flight 93 was shot down, there are scores of eyewitnesses whose testimonies contradict the government’s claim that courageous passengers fought hijackers, forcing the jetliner to crash rather than be flown into a building.

Some local residents here are deeply offended by the official explanation of what supposedly happened to United Airlines Flight 93, calling it a patriotic pack of lies.

iSMOKE 11-22-2007 08:54 PM

Key sentence there..."Eyewitness testimonies have generally been excluded from the official version of 9-11."

HighRoller 11-22-2007 09:06 PM

https://youtube.com/watch?v=vhf4B...eature=related

mynameisyep 11-22-2007 09:09 PM

There a movie too that explain all of it.. the url is
zeitgeistmovie dot com
this is great one

spacedog 11-22-2007 09:15 PM

4th, 5th & 6th ammendment are GONE!!
Watch the fucking video.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...ch&plindex =5

There's some heavy, deep and scary shit going on here!!

Ok, video is kind of boring & crazy in the beginning, but it all falls into place..

Hitler is cake & ice cream compared to GWB


Long ass video, but there's alot of shit that's happened & it makes sense

iSMOKE 11-22-2007 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by mynameisyep (Post 13408634)
There a movie too that explain all of it.. the url is
zeitgeistmovie dot com
this is great one

:thumbsup Thanks for the link...looks like a good one so far.

Dirty Dane 11-22-2007 10:26 PM

https://youtube.com/watch?v=QXa1EM94qP4

CreatineGuy 11-22-2007 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by spacedog (Post 13408157)
6 fucking years & people still don't get it.

spacedog --> Join Date: Nov 2001

Yep.. 6 fucking years and people don't get it that you are a clueless pro bush nazi. :pimp

iSMOKE 11-22-2007 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by CreatineGuy (Post 13408849)
spacedog --> Join Date: Nov 2001

Yep.. 6 fucking years and people don't get it that you are a clueless pro bush nazi. :pimp

:thumbsup

spacedog 11-22-2007 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by CreatineGuy (Post 13408849)
spacedog --> Join Date: Nov 2001

Yep.. 6 fucking years and people don't get it that you are a clueless pro bush nazi. :pimp

You must be one illiterate dumb fuck. Go back & read my posts you moron.

pro bush :1orglaugh You fucking kidding me?

iSMOKE 11-22-2007 10:46 PM

Yea, im not too sure where he got the pro Bush from. 6 years and still people dont get it is true. You mentioned that the 4th 5th and 6th amendments are gone...hardly pro bush talk there.

HighRoller 11-23-2007 12:10 AM

good points

HighRoller 11-23-2007 12:35 PM

I see some other good posts have started now on 9/11 have started

bronco67 11-23-2007 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by HighRoller (Post 13408623)

This is a good video. Explain the airplane debris nutjobs. Did blackwater plant it at the crash site minutes after the event?


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