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$5 submissions 11-16-2007 03:14 PM

How to create a GREAT website
 
Here's some helpful tips from one of the UBERPIMPS of online marketing, Seth Godin: http://sethgodin.typepad.com/seths_b...-create-1.html

His advice applies to most types of sites. In particular, the following apply well to adult and gaming sites:
6. Measure. If you?re not improving, if the yield is negative... kill it.

7. Insight is good, clever is bad. Many websites say, ?look at me.? Your goal ought to be to say, ?here?s what you were looking for.?

ClickBuster 11-16-2007 03:36 PM

Good read, I always appreciate your threads, always something useful in them :) keep it up. I personally liked

1. Fire the committee. No great website in history has been conceived of by more than three people. Not one. This is a dealbreaker.

8. If you hire a professional: hire a great one. The best one. Let her do her job. 10 mediocre website consultants working in perfect harmony can?t do the work of one rock star.

$5 submissions 11-16-2007 05:07 PM

This article reminds me that webmasters normally are faced with a TOUGH DECISION: do you do a FEW high quality/attention-heavy sites or do you do TONS of "build it and forget it" sites.

This is a tough question because there's always the fear of putting all your eggs in a few baskets using the former option above. However, if you FOCUS on your sites and LISTEN to your visitors/get them to help you address their concerns, your site could be more productive. On the other hand, building cookie cutter/semi-automated sites hundreds if not thousands of times would be a good way to find out what works, how it works, and finetune and replicate.

There's probably no right or wrong answer. The answer just might depend on how well you listen to and process the feedback that your site's stats are giving you.

CurrentlySober 11-16-2007 06:19 PM

"Many websites say, “look at me.” Your goal ought to be to say, “here’s what you were looking for.”

How true is that!

VicD 11-16-2007 06:27 PM

do people here make websites :)

$5 submissions 11-16-2007 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by vicd (Post 13382113)
do people here make websites :)

Quite a few. There's a few that harvest traffic. Others are arbitrageurs. But MOST, I'm sure, conduct their online biz through websites :thumbsup:2 cents:

StuartD 11-16-2007 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by $5 submissions (Post 13382221)
Quite a few. There's a few that harvest traffic. Others are arbitrageurs. But MOST, I'm sure, conduct their online biz through websites :thumbsup:2 cents:

Not me. :upsidedow

IllTestYourGirls 11-16-2007 07:45 PM

That is something I have been struggling with since I started. Both can make you money, but I think listening and doing is much easier than cookie cutter.

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Originally Posted by $5 submissions (Post 13381929)
This article reminds me that webmasters normally are faced with a TOUGH DECISION: do you do a FEW high quality/attention-heavy sites or do you do TONS of "build it and forget it" sites.

This is a tough question because there's always the fear of putting all your eggs in a few baskets using the former option above. However, if you FOCUS on your sites and LISTEN to your visitors/get them to help you address their concerns, your site could be more productive. On the other hand, building cookie cutter/semi-automated sites hundreds if not thousands of times would be a good way to find out what works, how it works, and finetune and replicate.

There's probably no right or wrong answer. The answer just might depend on how well you listen to and process the feedback that your site's stats are giving you.


$5 submissions 11-19-2007 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 13382282)
That is something I have been struggling with since I started. Both can make you money, but I think listening and doing is much easier than cookie cutter.

Yeah. I tend to agree with you. VOLUME sites require a lot of automation. Automation = (usually) crappier attention to what the customer needs. My next step with my network would probably to convert them to more social media-centric sites.

kovacs 11-19-2007 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by $5 submissions (Post 13381929)
This article reminds me that webmasters normally are faced with a TOUGH DECISION: do you do a FEW high quality/attention-heavy sites or do you do TONS of "build it and forget it" sites.

I think Google's new focus on trust and authority rewards building large, comprehensive sites that provide a great user experience... It's too difficult to differentiate cookie cutter (but legit) sites from spam.

$5 submissions 11-20-2007 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by kovacs (Post 13393096)
I think Google's new focus on trust and authority rewards building large, comprehensive sites that provide a great user experience... It's too difficult to differentiate cookie cutter (but legit) sites from spam.

True. Although RSS and some content customization tools are making some real nice "original" cookie cutter sites possible.

Amputate Your Head 11-20-2007 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by $5 submissions (Post 13381539)
7. Insight is good, clever is bad. Many websites say, ?look at me.? Your goal ought to be to say, ?here?s what you were looking for.?

You're dead on...

I used to do sites like that.... look at my Adult.com sites.... they're screaming "Look at me!"

Now I produce with the "Yeah... you fucking found it!" feel.

Works MUCH better. :thumbsup

tony286 11-20-2007 07:58 PM

Ive read two of his books, thanks for the link.

V_RocKs 11-20-2007 08:05 PM

To hire all of my friends or not to hire all of my friends.... That is the question...

$5 submissions 11-20-2007 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ClickBuster (Post 13381611)
Good read, I always appreciate your threads, always something useful in them :) keep it up.

Thanks, bro!

CunningStunt 11-20-2007 08:44 PM

Great post $5 submissions. Bookmarked.

blogman9 11-21-2007 12:32 AM

Good thread, added to:
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sandman! 11-21-2007 01:34 AM

some nice ideas in there.

yahoo-xxx-girls.com 11-21-2007 03:32 AM

Good post $5 submissions.

Bump...

don_chelle 11-21-2007 04:13 AM

this thread made me think... a nice read though!

$5 submissions 11-22-2007 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 13399414)

Now I produce with the "Yeah... you fucking found it!" feel.

Works MUCH better. :thumbsup

Yep, niche relevance and graphical cues re niche relevance/authority are KEY.:thumbsup

Xrated J 11-22-2007 02:22 PM

good read. :thumbsup


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