6256 US veterans committed suicide in 2005 - average of 17/day
 

holy shit .... couldn't really believe it, but it is the sad truth ...

U.S. VETERANS KILLING THEMSELVES at THE RATE OF 120 a WEEK

thats very fucked up.

Why they are doing this????

Damaged by war.

Jesus. That's insane.

damn. the terminator era is coming near.

Your source is a newsgroup post that references a turkish newspaper. Not believable.

i looked it up on cnn.. if you search it pulls up quite a few credible references

and the situation is fucked

morale high? my ass

why isn't canada having this problem? God, i'll check right now

I would imagine because going to war would severely fuck with your head.

I know the ppl. damaged by much more scary and brutal war here in Russia (the guys who returned alive from Chechnya). They told me such a terrible things you will never see in the movies like "Hostel" etc. However I never heard dome one of them committed suicide. Some ruined themselves with drink, but not suicide. Now way!

fuck your dumb ... it is a cbs report ....

Is an AMERICAN online paper ( TimesOnLine ) good enough for you ... You should stiop living in a denial state because it suits your agenda...

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle2873622.ece

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Now that is is posted on GFY, it becomes Not believable ..

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That's a damn shame :(

What do you expect, half the government is telling the world we should not be there, the GI's hear this all the time. Going to war when they hear congressmen that say we should have never have gone there and we need to bring everyone home. Thats something you don't hear about, that what they are doing to rally votes underminds the resolve of the US military, according to Abraham Lincoln, they should all be hanged, Obama, and Hillary and the rest that serve as the leaders of our congress that undermind the moral of our troops!

Why do you think that most in the military hate the democrat party? I know, when I was in, I served under Jimmy Carter till reagon took over, the whole military felt better, and Jimmy was a VET! My daughter is in now and they feel the same way!

The military has always had a higher suicide rate than civilians...during peace time as well as times of war. It is related more to Dear John type situations than anything else. When the cat is away the mouse will play plus stress changes a persons personality and sometimes for the worse thus their spouses/girlfriends can't adjust to the changed personality and want a separation. The divorce rate is also higher for military personel during peace time as well as times of war. Really nothing new here.

Another point that many civilians are not aware of is the fact that there have been more military deaths in years of peacetime among active duty personel than have been lost per year in Iraq...due to multiple causes.

The national average in the US is 1 suicide every 16 minutes. If you think veterans are more susceptible because they're "damaged by war" you're fooling yourself.

Karma is catching up with those mother fuckers. They enjoyed killing innocent women and children for the fun of it and because they could get away with it, but karma knows no compromise. I'm really glad to see it's working!

We live in a Republic, not a Dictatorship. :2 cents:

You really are a piece of shit...now aren't you? BTW...if you really believe in Karma...there certainly will be no compromise for you...now will there?

Just yesterday a young guy, Frederick Couture, an ex army guy just suicided himself.

don't think or have an opinion, like you... just stats:

You're not getting the point, the democrats are putting the war down to just put down the war and be different, they just as well say fuck the troops, I want to get elected

You're probably right. If they did a study similar to this and used college students insteadthey would probably come to about the same conclusion.

I'm not dem or repub but both parties do the same thing just appealling to a difference audience.

You are such an ass ...........

So why don't other countries have the same rates?

The CDC disagrees with you:

http://www.cdc.gov/ncipc/dvp/Suicide...eDataSheet.pdf

I'm a member of a military message board where this has been an active subject for years. The numbers of suicide with the military is the same as anyone else in the US.

BTW, since my son was a veteran included in those 2005 stats in the first post, I really have done some investigating on this over the last 2+ years.

During peace time most militaries from other countries do not deploy at all and those that do...do not often deploy. Most other countries do not engage in combat at all...and those that do...do it on a small scale.

In example...during my 12 years in the military...during peace time I was deployed at least as much as I was at my home base. I engaged in four major operations...three of which were combat operations. I was married and divorced three times during those years. My philosophy was that when I am away and the wife plays...while I pay...she will not stay. It was I that divorced them.

I did not allow much to affect me...but I knew those that did...including some that committed suicide.

No it is not and historically it has not been the same. It has always been higher.

These aren't current Irag war vets they are mostly WWII , Korea and Vietnam Vets !

Shit, most of the numbers they cite are from before 2003 before the Iraq war !

Sad is prob the understatement DF. Just wait till this lastest adventure is over and count the deaths of guys due to depleted uranium exposure - that is assessed to be over 10,000 from the Gulf War alone. Also ironic is 25% of the homeless - ie people on the streets or in shelters, comprise ex-military people.

Even more sad is the lack of interest (or denial) in counting victims outside the US, where there are obviously far more.

Disgusting what the human race can encourage others to do, then support them with wind and hot air :disgust

I don't think it's any secret that a significant amount of the population does not support the war in Iraq, so why would you expect those that represent the population in congress to not project those same sentiments?

Maybe it's those that continue to support the maintenance of a foreign occupation... an occupation with no end in sight that has been - from day one - based on lies, misdirection, and the marring of international relations that are actually saying "fuck the troops."

it's a shame so much partisanship exists in our government. George Washington equated the party system with that of despotism. No sense on blaming the harm done to our troops on the Democrats, imho - especially since you're identifying them as the ones with the platform ultimately resulting in removing them from harm's way.

That also is an OPINION, I presume ....

So you are saying that WW2, Vietnam vets are committing suicide in 2005 ?

Yesterday, on RDI, ther was a docu on the casualties of the US war in Iraq.... One interesting item was that the only people that really cared and showed up to funerals were Patriot Riders. To see those bikers escort a fallen soldiers to his last rest was pretty touching ... Those guys are for real , not the clowns in the WH and Pentagon ....

I say... Pussies!

These 30 out of 100,000 were pussies before they entered the war and were big gaping pussies when they left the war...

you are a fucking idiot

Preety tragic shit.

War is a mother fucker and there aint a person who has ever been involved that ain't fucked up from it.

Wow...

So many experts here at GFY...
Wish I was this smart.

... Maybe in your next life ....

WHY THE FUCK DO YOU MORONS HAVE TO FUCKING ARGUE ABOUT THIS. YES I MEAN YOU DIRECTFIESTA MORON CANT YOU JUST FEEL SAD ABOUT It?

no direct fiestsa coz everything u post has to be anti USA which fucking sucks. grow up u peice of tard shit

I hope you never need my services someday.

30 out of 100,000 killed themselves. It is a no brainer. They were dipshits.

kid, go to sleep ... This is way to complicated for your simple mind .. of Black & white .. For or Against, with US or with the enemy ....

:(:(:(:(

well at least ONE guy got it right.

The important factor there, if this was a true story, was the number of suicides among VETERANS.


It did NOT specify IRAQ veterans or any other sort.

It's sad either way. I don;t happen to support any political party, so don;t jump my ass on that.

What I DO support is honest information, with no slant. Unfortunately, there is precious little there to support.

This country has literally tens of millions of veterans. From WW1 (yes, there are a few still living) to the current conflict. Of more interest would be a detailed analysis of the ages of those who committed suicide and the conflicts they served in, if any.

Someone else posted, correctly, that the USA has more people on active duty around the world than any nation. Other countries do NOT have the same numbers of military nor the same number serving in foreign lands. So that is not an accurate gauge. You simply cannot compare the military forces of say, Monaco, to the sheer numbers and the efforts that the USA puts forth. And that is NOT meant with any disrespect.

The fall of the USSR resulted in someon (Possibly us) nominating the USA to be the good ole peacekeeper for the world. We have sometimes succeeded and often failed.

But. . who the fuck else has stepped up to the plate and EVEN TRIED?

The new French president made an intersting statement that essentially came down to this:

As misguided as the US is, maybe, just maybe, it's time to stop all the useless criticism and actually offer some SOLUTIONS.

Good thinking, and I hope the US will be willing to listen.

I was in the Army for 2 years. I served my time, had my son and got out on Sept 9, 2001, only saved from going overseas because I had just given birth. I can't imagine what those soldiers went through that did get deployed. People who never served their country don't know what it is like in the service. If you don't do what you are told, you are locked in military prisons (yes, I have seen it happen being an ex MP). They put fear into you and lie if need be to get you to perform. I mean all basic training is is really a form of brainwashing. Then you get young adults overseas who all of the sudden have to face the fact that their false sense of "military brotherhood" is all bullshit and that they have just killed someone, only to be too far away from home to do anything about it. I'm not surprised of the numbers, and I don't think they are pussies. I think they are people who were unfortunate enough to believe some stupid recruiter in a McDonalds parking lot who told them a way to pay for college and an easy life of service

more than half even , the vast majority of people don't think we should be there ..

makes ya think , perhaps we shouldn't be there..

they are voicing the feeling of americans, isn't that the whole point of what they are supposed to do ?

i dont remember him saying that :winkwink:

i fail to see how disagreeing with this war undermines the moral of the troops
i can certainly see how admitting you made a mistake can be demoralizing , it can also save lives and make you a stronger , smarter group

If an engineer says a house is built crooked halfway thru building , its hardly the engineer's fault that the carpenters get demoralized when they find out they can't continue. nobody is blaming the carpenters..

unfortunaltly, it is normally a false sense of moral. It is people cut off from civilization with only higher ranking officers telling them what that moral should be.

rest in peace old timers... :Oh crap

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