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Makaveli 11-16-2007 02:25 PM

Hey arm chair GFY poker experts. Another question..
 
My stats for the last 1000 hands

Hold'em (Real Money):

1000 hands played and saw flop:
- 80 times out of 138 while in small blind (58%)
- 102 times out of 140 while in big blind (73%)
- 151 times out of 722 in other positions (21%)
- a total of 333 times out of 1000 (33%)

Pots won at showdown - 58 out of 107 (54%)
Pots won without showdown - 63

What type of player would you consider me. And don't say a bad one :Oh crap

Vox 11-16-2007 03:56 PM

Loose aggressive

StuBradley 11-16-2007 04:41 PM

How many people per table? At a full table (9 players) I play best when I keep my flop/seen percentage at around 20%. I'll only try to get involved more often if the other players are playing particularly tight or if I have a couple of really bad players to my left.

33% is way too loose for the average game. But the 63 take downs suggest a tight table so maybe some aggression was called for.

Brother Bilo 11-16-2007 04:45 PM

Unless this was on the computer where these stats were tracked for you, I would say you are an obsesive compulsive player.

Makaveli 11-16-2007 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vox (Post 13381671)
Loose aggressive

Seriously... I play only good hands.. I play suited connectors on the button or an ace rag but other then that I wait for my spots.. I have been getting good starting hands this week on Poker Stars so I've been playing more hands then normal so maybe that why it looks that way..

Quote:

Unless this was on the computer where these stats were tracked for you, I would say you are an obsesive compulsive player.
:helpme

Vox 11-16-2007 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Makaveli (Post 13381921)
Seriously... I play only good hands.. I play suited connectors on the button or an ace rag but other then that I wait for my spots.. I have been getting good starting hands this week on Poker Stars so I've been playing more hands then normal so maybe that why it looks that way..


:helpme

80 times out of 138 while in small blind (58%)

That's way too high, you need to be quite tighter in small blinds. Playing loose in that position will cost you money.

Makaveli 11-16-2007 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vox (Post 13381944)
80 times out of 138 while in small blind (58%)

That's way too high, you need to be quite tighter in small blinds. Playing loose in that position will cost you money.

Thanks for the tip...:thumbsup

So you're saying no limping in with your 59 off for half your blind? lol.

DEA - banned for life 11-16-2007 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Makaveli (Post 13381949)
Thanks for the tip...:thumbsup

So you're saying no limping in with your 59 off for half your blind? lol.

dont think its the limping in..its the staying in after the flop:2 cents:

polle54 11-16-2007 06:31 PM

use pokertracker instead of those crap statistics

what is interesting is your PF call % and your PF aggression and your overall aggresion

based on the numbers you give me there I could fear a somewhat semi loose passive (read: losing) style.

6 max TAG should be something like 18-20% preflop call and around 13-15% preflop raise.

throw away your cards in sb a bit more, it's the worst position of the table!

be more aggresive on the button and in cut off.

don't flat call with suited connecters. If you are in pos and no previous raisers, raise them 4-5 x BB. Be careful on the flop when you miss, don't continuebet them all.

In raised pot let go of AJ and down.

Always raise pocket pairs and when you are first in raise them for set value.
You hit set every 8th time. so consider that you need your money back 8 times when you hit on average. So if his stack is not big enough for at least 15 x the bet you make, don't play it. It will be -EV in the long haul.

always reraise QQ,KK,AA and NEVER EVER make a gayraise on these, full power tri-bet as reraise and 4xBB preflop if no raisers minimum. Otherwise you will lose value in the long haul.

Be careful with TT and JJ.

remember that when you are on a flushdraw og open ended straight draw you have 35% of hitten either turn or river, so you have to get your flopbet in 3 times. (sometimes all in can be a good thing here when you take fold equity into account).

Hope you got some pinpointers out of this

www.pokertracker.com - buy that shit you wont regret it.

polle54 11-16-2007 06:35 PM

Btw, is your username reffering to Niccolò Machiavelli?

bad as mofo with some mean strategies hehe

Makaveli 11-16-2007 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polle54 (Post 13382123)
use pokertracker instead of those crap statistics

what is interesting is your PF call % and your PF aggression and your overall aggresion

based on the numbers you give me there I could fear a somewhat semi loose passive (read: losing) style.

6 max TAG should be something like 18-20% preflop call and around 13-15% preflop raise.

throw away your cards in sb a bit more, it's the worst position of the table!

be more aggresive on the button and in cut off.

don't flat call with suited connecters. If you are in pos and no previous raisers, raise them 4-5 x BB. Be careful on the flop when you miss, don't continuebet them all.

In raised pot let go of AJ and down.

Always raise pocket pairs and when you are first in raise them for set value.
You hit set every 8th time. so consider that you need your money back 8 times when you hit on average. So if his stack is not big enough for at least 15 x the bet you make, don't play it. It will be -EV in the long haul.

always reraise QQ,KK,AA and NEVER EVER make a gayraise on these, full power tri-bet as reraise and 4xBB preflop if no raisers minimum. Otherwise you will lose value in the long haul.

Be careful with TT and JJ.

remember that when you are on a flushdraw og open ended straight draw you have 35% of hitten either turn or river, so you have to get your flopbet in 3 times. (sometimes all in can be a good thing here when you take fold equity into account).

Hope you got some pinpointers out of this

www.pokertracker.com - buy that shit you wont regret it.

Thanks man, great info.. I'll take it all if it helps me to become a better player.. One question if you don't mind. Where can I learn more about this stuff. I'm not all up on the lingo like "6 max TAG" and things like this. :s

Makaveli 11-17-2007 02:14 AM

During current Hold'em session you were dealt 97 hands and saw flop:
- 8 out of 11 times while in big blind (72%)
- 1 out of 12 times while in small blind (8%)
- 12 out of 74 times in other positions (16%)
- a total of 21 out of 97 (21%)
Pots won at showdown - 5 of 8 (62%)
Pots won without showdown - 4

Hows that?

lazycash 11-17-2007 02:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polle54 (Post 13382123)
use pokertracker instead of those crap statistics

what is interesting is your PF call % and your PF aggression and your overall aggresion

based on the numbers you give me there I could fear a somewhat semi loose passive (read: losing) style.

6 max TAG should be something like 18-20% preflop call and around 13-15% preflop raise.

throw away your cards in sb a bit more, it's the worst position of the table!

be more aggresive on the button and in cut off.

don't flat call with suited connecters. If you are in pos and no previous raisers, raise them 4-5 x BB. Be careful on the flop when you miss, don't continuebet them all.

In raised pot let go of AJ and down.

Always raise pocket pairs and when you are first in raise them for set value.
You hit set every 8th time. so consider that you need your money back 8 times when you hit on average. So if his stack is not big enough for at least 15 x the bet you make, don't play it. It will be -EV in the long haul.

always reraise QQ,KK,AA and NEVER EVER make a gayraise on these, full power tri-bet as reraise and 4xBB preflop if no raisers minimum. Otherwise you will lose value in the long haul.

Be careful with TT and JJ.

remember that when you are on a flushdraw og open ended straight draw you have 35% of hitten either turn or river, so you have to get your flopbet in 3 times. (sometimes all in can be a good thing here when you take fold equity into account).

Hope you got some pinpointers out of this

www.pokertracker.com - buy that shit you wont regret it.

Thanks for that, some excellent tips in there.

paymeback 11-17-2007 04:51 AM

polle54 pretty much summed up ABC poker and is giving great advice, pokertracker is the shit and will show you what parts of your game you need to work on

polle54 11-17-2007 05:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Makaveli (Post 13382205)
Thanks man, great info.. I'll take it all if it helps me to become a better player.. One question if you don't mind. Where can I learn more about this stuff. I'm not all up on the lingo like "6 max TAG" and things like this. :s

Hey

well you should maybe start at the beginner part of the forums on twoplustwo.com This is an excellent forum for all players, all the way to the top.

I think I owe you an explanation of the terms I used:

6 max (table with maximum 6 people).
TAG (Tight aggressive) You play around 18-20% and raise 13-15% preflop.
PF (preflop) before the flop comes.
BB (Big Blind)
Gayraise (Minimum raise)
Continueationbet (a bet to follow up on your preflop bet)
-EV (Negative Estimated Value in the long run)
+EV (Positive Estimated Value in the long run)
Fold Equity
-> this one is not as easy explained.. It means that you can count in your
calculations of winning the times he folds to an all in as an example.
If the Board has an A and you have straightdraw maybe and you go all in
He has to have at least a pair of aces to call and your fold equity is there
fore pretty high. that combined with the 35% chance of hitting it will
maybe be over 50% winning altogether depending on many other things :)
set (Three of a kind where you hold two of them on the hand)

Good luck becomming a better pokerplayer :)

It's hard work I can tell you that much.

Another thing you should always consider is BRM (Bank roll management).
if you play $NL25 you should have AT LEAST $500 on your account so the swings wont bother you.

Play 50k hands at least with a BB/100 of 3 before you move on to a new limit. If you can manage to do this and you read up on the play you can become a winning player but remember it takes craploads of time.

I have played 300k+ hands I am still only at $35/hour average over the last 50k hands. I make more as a programmer so I don't play much more, but fun times for sure :)

Makaveli 11-17-2007 11:00 AM

Thanks polle...

Snake Doctor 11-17-2007 11:28 AM

It's already been said here but I'll say it again, get pokertracker.

Also, 1K hands isn't a big enough sample size to really know anything.

Get poker tracker, read and ask questions at the 2+2 forums, don't assume you know everything (most people do) and you'll be well on your way. :thumbsup

Makaveli 11-18-2007 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snake Doctor (Post 13384054)
It's already been said here but I'll say it again, get pokertracker.

Also, 1K hands isn't a big enough sample size to really know anything.

Get poker tracker, read and ask questions at the 2+2 forums, don't assume you know everything (most people do) and you'll be well on your way. :thumbsup

Thanks Snake.. I never assume I know everything when it comes to poker, been playing under a year and im just starting to get into the deeper parts.. Want to learn it all..:winkwink:


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