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BT 09-22-2002 06:57 AM

Best fight ever
 
De La Hoya Vs. Vargas

booker 09-22-2002 09:45 AM

Ever see Johnny Tapia? ..that guy is exciting to watch!

[Labret] 09-22-2002 09:46 AM

Put any of those boxing pussies in the octagon and watch them get their asses whomped. That would be a fight.

Juge 09-22-2002 11:50 AM

Yeah, it was pretty exciting. Good fight! :thumbsup

Plat 09-22-2002 11:53 AM

agreed :thumbsup

booker 09-22-2002 12:06 PM

I disagree.. I think even a bum professional boxer would put an "ultimate fighter" in the hospital in about 40 seconds.. check out a pro fight some time, it's like the difference between kids who hook up their Hondas and the big boys runnin' 10s on n/a 350s.

Lexxx 09-22-2002 12:13 PM

That was a good fight though... :glugglug

Exxxotica 09-22-2002 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by booker
I disagree.. I think even a bum professional boxer would put an "ultimate fighter" in the hospital in about 40 seconds.. check out a pro fight some time, it's like the difference between kids who hook up their Hondas and the big boys runnin' 10s on n/a 350s.

I dont think so, it all depends on the rules of the game. Pure boxers have tried NHB... and had their ass's handed to them.

Same would go if you put an NHB fighter in a straight boxing match. Thats the boxers world, he would dominate there.

Anyhoo.... Ultimate fighting has evolved. There is no longer any pure styles in NHB competiton. Everybody is crosstrained now days.... every fighter studies boxing, kickboxing, wrestling, and jiujitsu.

Knowing only how to box, or only how to groundfight... means you are going to take a beating.

booker 09-22-2002 12:51 PM

"studying" boxing or another style and being a pro boxer are different animals. again, check out a live pro fight and compare it to the sparring that everyone else does, the brutality behind a pro boxer's jab is shocking.

Exxxotica 09-22-2002 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by booker
"studying" boxing or another style and being a pro boxer are different animals. again, check out a live pro fight and compare it to the sparring that everyone else does, the brutality behind a pro boxer's jab is shocking.

... and check out the takedown power of an Olympian wrestler.

Shit... your average college wrestler would BEAT THE FUCK out of ANY pro boxer in his same weight class.

evildick 09-22-2002 02:12 PM

I remember one of the first UFC's where there was a pure boxer in there. He got destroyed.

I wish they still did it like the old days. The most entertaining fight I seen was the 400+ lb sumo wrestler against a little judo guy. He hit the sumo wrestler in the head so many times he broke his hand. He won, but he couldn't continue because of his hand.

Now they've taken most of the fun out of it, because there are no more outrageous mismatches anymore.

Shap 09-22-2002 02:20 PM

Any of you see Arturo Gatti -- Mickey Ward a few months ago? I've got to say that's one of my favorites.

I think the Vargas - Trinidad fight was better than the De la Hoya fight.

booker 09-22-2002 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by evildick
I remember one of the first UFC's where there was a pure boxer in there. He got destroyed.

I wish they still did it like the old days. The most entertaining fight I seen was the 400+ lb sumo wrestler against a little judo guy. He hit the sumo wrestler in the head so many times he broke his hand. He won, but he couldn't continue because of his hand.

.."pure" boxer and a professional are different stories as are amateur and pro; had they gotten a decent pro boxer against that sumo wrestler he would have broken the guy's jaw in 2 hits to the head.

Jon 09-22-2002 02:32 PM

you're all wrong..
best fight ever = AOL TIME WARNER vs CEN

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Pornwolf 09-22-2002 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by shap
Any of you see Arturo Gatti -- Mickey Ward a few months ago? I've got to say that's one of my favorites.

I think the Vargas - Trinidad fight was better than the De la Hoya fight.

I agree with you on both counts.

The Arturo Gatti & Mickey Ward fight was brutal. Bert Sugar even said that that was one of the most punishing fight in that weight class he's seen in a long time. I have a lotta respect for those guys.

the indigo 09-22-2002 04:33 PM

Hey, I started a cool boxing site a while ago... it's all free:

boxing-videos.com

Please upload any fights you might have!

BT 09-22-2002 06:29 PM

Every sport you have to train for and if ya put a grapler in the ring with boxing rules they are fish otta water.... Visaversa! And I love Ultimate fighting... :Graucho

Steve 09-22-2002 07:55 PM

Good fights I can remember

Boxing:
Gatti/Ward
Hagler/Hearns
Holyfield/Tyson I
Vargas/DeLa Hoya



MMA:
Rizzo/Couture (either one was cool)
Coleman/Frye
Ruttan/Randleman
F.Shamrock/Ortiz
Silva/Metzger
Metzger/Liddel


added Oscer/Fernando in there ;)

Pornwolf 09-22-2002 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by the indigo
Hey, I started a cool boxing site a while ago... it's all free:

boxing-videos.com

Please upload any fights you might have!

Your site is fuckin fantastic! :thumbsup :thumbsup

All real boxing fans should have it bookmarked!

BradShaw 09-22-2002 08:50 PM

barrara vs morales in 2000 was one of the best ever.

If you think De La Hoya Vs. Vargas was best fight ever, you do not watch much boxing.

WiredGuy 09-22-2002 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by the indigo
Hey, I started a cool boxing site a while ago... it's all free:

boxing-videos.com

Please upload any fights you might have!

Thanks!! I'm downloading some of the fights I wish I saw but missed. A definite site to bookmark!!

WG

letshunt 09-22-2002 09:25 PM

Comparing UFC and boxing is not comparing "apples to apples"...they both require a different skill set.

I was a wrestler in college and did a couple of tours with the US National team...then competed in shootfighting in Japan for a couple of years. I weigh roughly the same as Mike Tyson...you couldn't pay me to get in the right with him, under boxing rules. I would imagine he would be tough to wrestle, too. He is a strong man.

On he other hand, the best UFC fighter, by far (he only fights in Japan) is one of the Gracie brothers...his name is Hixson Gracie...he would eat Mike Tyson alive.

Each sports requires a completely different set of skills and it isn't fair to say one is better than the other. Most of the UFC stuff is from Okinawa and migrated to brazil. The Japanese had removed all the weapons from the okinawans and they developed a style of fighting that is deadly and effective. Boxing is a sport, and the rules are quite different.

I can assure you the Hixson would not box with Mike Tyson, under boxing rules. By the way, there are quite a few Gracie do-jo's in the US....one I attend regularly is run by Carlton Gracie in Chicago...those guys are awsome.

Bigdogg 09-22-2002 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BT_trafficcashgold
De La Hoya Vs. Vargas
NOT!!!


best fight ever was Morales vs Barrera, Morales vs that irish guy?

Nedder 09-22-2002 10:46 PM

I've seen too many great fights in my life to say one was better than the other, I'm surprised some of you haven't mentioned some of Ali's bouts, or Roberto Duran...

There's plenty of greatness to go around, Dela vs Vargas was a good if not great fight, but there are plenty to choose from...check out ESPN Classic from time to time, you'll see great shit there.

Nz

Steve 09-22-2002 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nedder
There's plenty of greatness to go around, Dela vs Vargas was a good if not great fight, but there are plenty to choose from...check out ESPN Classic from time to time, you'll see great shit there.

Nz

Fuck, did you ever see a tape of George Foreman and Ron Lyle in Vegas? They beat the fucking shit out of each other! And I know he kicked his ass, but I liked seeing Foreman vs Frazier.

BT 09-24-2002 10:09 AM

Ruiz vs. Holyfield

bushwacker 09-24-2002 10:58 AM

being i'm an old boxing fan i remeber aaron pryor and alexis arguello...just a brutal fight

booker 09-24-2002 11:11 AM

nice site man.. I'll try to upload a few things I have before too long.. how about posting some sort of rating on quality of the rip? I'm sure people would either make or find better rips to replace some of the ones you have which aren't very crisp.

jreaka 09-24-2002 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Exxxotica



... and check out the takedown power of an Olympian wrestler.

Shit... your average college wrestler would BEAT THE FUCK out of ANY pro boxer in his same weight class.

Are you for real?

A Featherweight would take down any college wrestler.........including heavyweights!:thumbsup

Exxxotica 09-24-2002 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jreaka


Are you for real?

A Featherweight would take down any college wrestler.........including heavyweights!:thumbsup


You're being sarcastic right?

heymatty 09-24-2002 11:53 AM

a great fight was Nigel Benn vs. Gerald the 'G' man McClelland

totally brutal, pity it did actually end up with McClelland being fucker up

I also liked all the hearns, hagler, leonard fights

QGals 09-24-2002 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by shap
Any of you see Arturo Gatti -- Mickey Ward a few months ago? I've got to say that's one of my favorites.

I think the Vargas - Trinidad fight was better than the De la Hoya fight.

Ward Vs Gatti is probably the best fight i've ever seen. It was brutal

SCJason 09-24-2002 12:00 PM

Boxing is a great sport. It is very hard to compare the ufc style and pro boxing.........Booker I hear ya ! I have watched a number of the UFC style fighting, pancrase all that shit. There are some devasting individuals competing. But if you notice on there feet none of them really show any "pro" style skills. There have been alot of guys have "trained" in boxing that fought in the UFC. I do not know of one former "pro" boxer that has competed. I maybe wrong. Not that into it. But the destruction of a proffesionally delivered punch is mind blowing. They have a saying in boxing it is not the one you see that knocks you out, it is the one you don't see. I would hard press to bet against a pro fighter bare knuckled. Seems most of the fighters who win those things (UFC) are in or two catergories........they are either the aggressor in the match or have superior conditioning. Boxers have tremendous conditioning, and with few instructions on the "gaurd" position I would bet they would much better than the UFC guys with a few boxing lessons. Just my two cents. (I am boxing fan)

Back to the thread..BT "Make no mistake about it baby" What up bro ! See ya at the Denver game......in the sky box. YEP YEP

Great Fights:
leonard vs. Hearns
Barrera vs. Morales (Both were fantastic)
Ivan Robinson vs. Gotti
All of Ricardo Lopez' fights..phenominal fighter text book perfect
All of tyson's earlier fights one sided , yet devasting from a fans perspective......

Too Many to List............

azRCF 09-24-2002 12:23 PM

OJ Simpson vs. Ronald Goldman was probably pretty intense.:winkwink:

Steve 09-24-2002 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bushwacker
being i'm an old boxing fan i remeber aaron pryor and alexis arguello...just a brutal fight
True, but since Pryor was whacked out of his mind by whatever his trainer had him huffing in the corner, it wasn't 100% fair. At least in the first fight. Because Arguello hit him with bombs that didn't even buckle his knees - hardly slowed Pryor down.

For a good beat down, gotta love Chavez vs Camacho. Exhibit A on how to work the body.

DrGuile 09-24-2002 05:59 PM

Just watched Ward Vs Gatti on the site.

I gotta say, Hell of a fight!

who won?

DTK 09-24-2002 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bushwacker
being i'm an old boxing fan i remeber aaron pryor and alexis arguello...just a brutal fight
I remember that one... you're right that one was brutal!!

Ambergirl 09-24-2002 06:23 PM

De La Hoya Vs. Vargas was definitely a great fight.

Brain over Brawn baby!

BT 09-24-2002 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ambergirl
De La Hoya Vs. Vargas was definitely a great fight.

Brain over Brawn baby!

Yes indeed... A women who likes boxing is the key to any mans heart strings... Don't tell me you cook and watch football on sunday or you may have a stalker on your hands.... LOL:1orglaugh :winkwink:


What about Sugar Ray Lenord Vs. Marvelous Marvin Hagler.
Those were the days...!

Exxxotica 09-24-2002 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BT_trafficcashgold


Yes indeed... A women who likes boxing is the key to any mans heart strings... Don't tell me you cook and watch football on sunday or you may have a stalker on your hands.... LOL:1orglaugh :winkwink:


What about Sugar Ray Lenord Vs. Marvelous Marvin Hagler.
Those were the days...!

I love Sugar Ray Leonard fights. My dad used to rent them on video and let us watch them when mom wasnt around. (she doesnt condone fight sports)


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