And so starts the RFID Chip Nightmare that so many said would never happen...
 

This is how it starts people...
http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/devlin/17027

Good luck

It's not an accident George Orwell was British.

That's probably the most asinine excuse for tagging people I've ever heard.

In before one of the resident nutbags equates it to the tats in the labor camps.

The world is a bigger place than it used to be. Back in the "good old days" the farthest your kid could wander was to the neighbour's farm or into town. Now they can hop a bus or train and disappear into the metropolitan landscape so easily. Even if kids don't mean to get into trouble, it's a dangerous place out there. If keeping tabs on them helps, I'm all for it.

It's up to the parents to decide what to do with the information, though. If they are able to find out from the RFID chips that their kid is skipping school, do they punish or let it slide? That's the real benefit: teaching the children. If the parents don't care, then the kids won't care and there goes society.

Ok, end rant. Back to my coffee.

New World Order
 

How about teaching your kids real life skills so that when they get in real life situations they can handle it?

everyone babies their kids these days it is fucking ridiculous, people are so quick to give up their freedoms not even realise what the fuck is happening.

guess what! molestors and child predators have always existed the difference is we have news agencies that now can report to the entire world seconds after a china boy has stubbed his toe if they wanted to.

there is no need to track your kids around every 2 seconds, the entire point in growing up is making your own mistakes and learning from them.

north america is going to shit and im sure parts of europe also because of overberring parents that want to put restrictions on everything as a subsitute for their sub par parenting.

WHile I agree somewhat with what you are saying, my point is not that they are using it to track children, my point is that they are using it to track... which many people said would never happen.

FYI RFID chips will be in 2008 US Driver's Licenses...

Pretty much what I was going to say. News use to be more local based, now it's national and international.

Link please.. I've been following ADSX stock for years and it's the biggest pos on the Nasdaq. Where is this information?

The only good those chips are going to do is ring a bell if the kids leaves the building by walking through some scanning device. They are not GPS capable.

When both parents work, who is teaching the children?

Kids now'a'days think they are so grown up because they are left alone all day...

Real ID Act of 2005 signed by Pres. Bush

At a minimum, a state shall include the following information and features on a DL/ID: (1) person?s full legal name, (2) person?s date of birth, (3) person?s gender, (4) DL/ID number, (5) digital photograph, (6), person's address of legal residence, (7) person?s signature, (8) physical security features designed to prevent tampering, counterfeiting or duplication for fraudulent purposes, and (9) a common machine-readable technology with defined data elements

RFID chips are the recommended "common machine-readable technology"

Sorry but it says nothing about RFID.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/REAL_ID_Act

Kids will also have fun :Oh crap with RFIDs, especially as they increasingly appear in toys; google "rfid toys" to see examples / discussion of such products.

Forget that nasdaq stock - buy some RFID domains instead :thumbsup

RFIDToys.com, which I own :pimp, along with its singular version, undeveloped already gets around 60 visitors per month, and that's steadily increasing over time.

Kids today have grown up in a world of ever-present surveillance; comforted by someone else knowing where they are at all times - even many rebellous teens will keep in close contact with their parents / relatives throughout the day via cellphone / texting ... RFID simply makes doing that easier / more automated.

Another decade or so, once RFIDs are made much smaller to the size of say a grain of sand that can be placed under the skin using a tool similar to that of a tattoo gun, it's likely RFID implants will become commonplace.

Ron

Wait a second. I am going on 38 now and as a kid leaving near the bay area I would like to object. I could of easily and actually did once spend a dollar and got myself from Concord CA to San Fransico CA via BART. Me and a friend cut school, went to San Fransico bummed around and spent almost all of our money. We did not have enough to get all the way home so we had to bounce back from Concord to Walnut Creek to get off (toll exit was cheaper there) and then walk back to our jr high (5th grade).

Now yes my parents would of found out about me skipping if I was tagged, though they found out anyways since they showed up to get me for an unknown doctors appointment that they were reminded of mid morning by doctors office and I was MIA. Regardless though this was just to point out that even almost 30 years ago it was just as easy to wonder way away.

sorry but I don't get my information from wikipedia, I get real information, not opinions and fluff.

I think it's pretty horrendous thinking that parents would actually tag their children and track their every move.

And I find it very scary that the government could use such technology in driver's licenses to basically track every citizen that has one. However, can't you already pinpoint someone's location if their cell phone is on? And don't most of us have cell phones and carry them everywhere?

Yes, but you can turn your cellphone off. You don't have a choice with your drivers license. After May 11, 2008, federal agencies can no longer accept non-approved drivers licenses.

Will someone please think of the children!!!!

And there we go down the slippery slope...because that's what they will always tell us...we're in danger and we need it...and if enough people think like you then the rest of us will have to suffer through it as well.

I thought the "common machine-readable technology" was the magnetic strip on the back of the license that they can swipe through their terminals in their cars.

I've never heard anyone say anything about RFID.

U.S. Passports, as well as that of some other countries, already utilize RFID, many credit cards, etc ... so it's very plausible / likely that soon many state driver licenses will also be RFID chipped too.

One can delay it a bit, but RFID is coming to driver licenses - it's just a matter of time.

Some are probably thinking ... "no way, people will fight this hard" ... Nope! Consider this fact ... many states, including California, have long required fingerprinting for one to get a drivers license. If states can get people to go along with giving their fingerprint(s), mandating RFID in licenses will be a chinch!

Ron

PS I am fairly certain many tires have RFID in them now for "recall" purposes. Then we shall just forget about cell phones, laptops, credit cards, on star, and so forth.

Ron as for California's finger printing with licenses. Those prints are not used, not kept on file in reality, and just sent to fucking storage. I.E. it is a giant waste of state resources. If I recall they were prohbited by law from using them but the law also stayed ine effect to collect them.

Lol.. I've been shorting this crap since $180. It's ready to be delisted again and has already gone through a 10:1 reverse split. Applied Digital is supposed to be the leader in Human RFID too. :1orglaugh BTW.. they have now been proven to cause cancer, migrate in the human skin structure and are easily hackable.

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?t=my&s=ADSX&l=on&z=m&q=l&c=&c=%5EGSPC&c=%5EIXIC &c=%5EDJI

I pose this question to all the ADSX longs as well/. Are you CHIPPED?

Don't be so sure the data is that private ... fingerprints recorded using "livescan" and other digital technology is likely not just stored - data in computerized databases, regardless of the promises, virtually always find its way out to other places / used for other purposes.

Government, like politicians, can make all the empty promises they want because there's basically no penalty for them doing so...

To digress a bit, a person questioned by law enforcement typically can NOT legally lie, but law enforcement CAN and do!

To reiterate, believing government promises is about as silly as believing the promises of politicians.

The only true way to keep data private is not to collect it to begin with.

Ron

Again....Where's the link?

Google it, jesus, Real ID Act of 2005

here is CNN report on it
http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/08/12/ra...ids/index.html

and before you say "blah blah blah, nothing about RFID chips" the "common machine readable device" is to be determined by the Department of Homeland Security, and guess what, the Department of Homeland Security uses RFID Chips in Passports.

Hackers clone RFID in passports:
http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/03/g...d-e-passports/
Chips causes tumors"
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...800997_pf.html
More info on Spychips:
http://www.spychips.com/

I don't need a "big brother" watching over my shoulder all the time. I would rather have more freedom than more security.

it is my understanding that these are in wide use in EU already. I was trying to figure out why no one ever asked to see my train ticket, and was informed it is because of the chips on the tickets.

Just what I was told.

With technological advances, we will see less and less privacy. And I suspect that the majority of people will just accept this as part of how life is.